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[Nocte ad Mortem]

The Architect is one of the magisters that went into the Black City, like Corypheus. His plot will be summed up when we learn the full story about what they did, whether he's actually present or not, I would think. I doubt they're going to sum up something so big quickly, though. Instead, we'll probably just encounter individual magisters in games and get pieces of the truth from them for a while. I wouldn't expect DA4 to fully explain it, either. 

 

I don't really expect we'll always see the companions again, especially the "special" ones from DLC. It doesn't really bother me, I guess. Some start out obviously important, but others don't really seem to have all that much cause to keep popping back up. Even a lot of the non-DLC companions only come up in letters, war table missions and offhanded mentions, so I don't think it's a big deal if characters like Velanna and Sigrun don't have any substantial role in future games.

[BansheeOwnage]

The Architect is one of the magisters that went into the Black City, like Corypheus. His plot will be summed up when we learn the full story about what they did, whether he's actually present or not, I would think. I doubt they're going to sum up something so big quickly, though. Instead, we'll probably just encounter individual magisters in games and get pieces of the truth from them for a while. I wouldn't expect DA4 to fully explain it, either.

Actually, I expect DA4 might explain it. If the Evanuris are indeed trapped in the Black City, it would make sense to learn the rest of the Magisters' story, and lore about the City, possibly the blight.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Actually, I expect DA4 might explain it. If the Evanuris are indeed trapped in the Black City, it would make sense to learn the rest of the Magisters' story, and lore about the City, possibly the blight.

 

They might explain it in DA4. It really depends on how many DA games they want to make and what else they have planned beyond this. Revealing the truth about the Black City and the elven gods wouldn't leave much open, but it depends on if they have something else to throw out with the end of that. I'm not saying they won't explain it in DA4, but I could also see them taking it slower. I don't doubt that they'll wrap up most of this with Solas, but I'm not sure they plan to completely deal with him in DA4. It's possible this could be an ongoing issue, since there's a lot of smaller stuff they could toss out until they solve the "main threat" to Thedas.  

[Dai Grepher]

Given that Velanna can be persuaded to change her mind about humans (she can defend a human village, alone, against a horde of darkspawn), I don't think she would necessarily buy into Solas' genocidal plans.

I doubt Solas would present his plans as such. He would likely promise her only that the ancient world of the elves would return, and omit the part about how even her own fellow modern elves will die in the raw chaos.
 

I also don't think Lanaya would ever serve Solas; wanting an independent, autonomous kingdom isn't the same as wanting to destroy all of humanity, after all. The fact that Solas is Fen'Harel seems like a strong deterrent for many Dalish to ever agree to side with, even the ones who follow the Forgotten Ones (the ones with crimson vallaslin).

Maybe. Depends on their current conditions, I would say. Some might want a change so badly that they throw caution to the wind. Sometimes... change is what sets them free. Some might also forsake the Dalish legends as false if Solas can demonstrate special powers or provide evidence condemning the evanuris.
 

I wholeheartedly agree. Merrill's research into Eluvian lore was pretty much dropped, and that's unfortunate.

Thanks. I think BioWare should also consider the fact that some players romanced Merrill. So having her show up again should be pretty important. Fenris too, I suppose, with Tevinter and all.
 

Okay, I'll give you the bit about Solas. But Mythal could very well have plans for whoever she controls through the Well, assuming she still exists as a force independent from Solas. The thing where there haven't been whispers from the Well could be because the time hasn't come for the Inquisitor/Morrigan to act yet. (According to Mythal, anyway.)

I'm sure Mythal does exist. The spirit that floated out of the Well and into the eluvian was probably her spirit. As for the knowledge of the Well, I'm wondering why the Inquisitor can't even ask questions or at least have it stated that the Well won't answer questions about Solas. If Mythal wants Solas to continue, then yeah, she won't let the Inquisitor know how to stop him. But I think this is because Solas' plans and Mythal's are consistent for now. My main issue with the Well is that you can't use it to ask about the titans, not even the veilfire rune on the titan mural, nor can you consult with it during the conversation with Solas or the spirits in the Vir Dirthara to verify any of it.
 

I'm not sure they plan to add anything to the Keep, and I really doubt they'll add Velanna. Planning Solas's part in Inquisition (which they were doing around when they wrote the Keep) means planning the basic outline for DA4. So if they didn't add it then I don't think they're going to for DA4, and DA4 is the logical time for Velanna to re-emerge.

But yeah, theoretically they can add anything to the Keep. So maybe it's too early to write off any plot line as abandoned unless the logical time for it to come back has past.

Agreed.
 

I'm not sure about the Anvil of the Void being relevant enough that it's surprising it didn't come up. Unless Branka's working overtime to produce golems you wouldn't expect them to be so common that they come up in Descent, and there's no other time when they logically would.

Well I was thinking more along the lines of Valta referencing the Anvil or Shale at least. Both seem relevant to the theory on titans.
 

How do we know that having a Warden body and being in Southern Thedas is enough? As far as I know we don't know how the spell is targeted. It could be that anyone who's taken the Joining and is in Southern Thedas is targeted, or it could be that Nightmare has to target every Warden individually, or it could be that Nightmare targets Warden compounds and that any Warden not in those compounds isn't effected. Warden!Alistair would hear it in all of those cases, and King!Alistair would only hear it in one of them.

From what I remember, the Warden contact states that all Wardens in the south began hearing the Calling. So it seemed to me like Cory taught the Nightmare how to mimic the Calling, and then showed it how to send that telepathic message out to those who would hear it. I think the Hero was simply out of range, but Alistair wouldn't be.

Cole mentions that the two Wardens who helped that elf girl in Crestwood, the ones looking for the Warden contact, were still themselves. So maybe that means those two didn't hear the false Calling for some reason. Maybe they were new recruits. In that case it likely worked based on how far along the taint was in the Warden's body. Just like how the Hero couldn't hear the voices or sense darkspawn soon after the Joining.
 

I don't remember having the option to send the letter to the HoF before handling Adamant Fortress, which would mean that the Inquisitor would think to specifically ask the HoF if they're hearing a Calling.

Well, if the Hero romanced Alistair then you get the Contact Hero of Ferelden chore table quest from him at Skyhold before Adamant. But that's neither here nor there. My only point was that the Hero had the good sense to include that bit of information in the reply letter. Corypheus and his influence doesn't reach the Hero, wherever the Hero is. So that at least lets the Inquisitor know there is or was a range to it. Doesn't really matter after Adamant when you already know the truth, but the point is that the Hero shares important information with the Inquisitor, so a king Alistair should have as well. As it stands, it just seems like BioWare forgot that even a king Alistair is still tainted.

Though it could be the continuation of the plot that Alistair is an unthinking moron.
 

Meanwhile all interactions with King Alistair can be over with before that happens. And I'm not sure why you think King Alistair's first priority would be to volunteer this information to the Inquisition. Even if he is hearing it (which as I've stated is questionable) it seems like you'd pick and choose who you'd let in on something like this very carefully, weighing whether or not they can be trusted to know as well as whether or not they need to. It seems to me that the Inquisition only really proves itself to point where Alistair should consider trusting them this far by solving the problem, which renders the question moot.

Over with before what happens? Adamant? We can possibly meet Alistair at the end of IHW. We can also have written communication with him regarding Venatori agents in Denerim's court. So if he trusts the Inquisition with that, then why not info regarding the Grey Wardens, especially when the Inquisition's enemy is a darkspawn magister, and the Inquisition is in the process of tracking down the Wardens and why they were disappearing. Seems like Alistair would be one to ask, and if Alistair cares about the Order or just defeating Cory in general, then he would share the fact that he is hearing a Calling before his time.

Again, the Hero had no problem trusting the Inquisitor with this information, and the Hero didn't even meet or benefit from the Inquisitor.
 

Technically the lack of an heir could get resolved depending on if the Warden finds a cure for being a warden for world states that have Alistair and/or the Warden as ruler. Anora might be able to have children with someone else (since Rowan got her sickness before having Cailan, it could have been him who couldn't have children), Also, it felt like everyone is just planning to have another Landsmeet in the future anyway. I'd feel sorry if Kieran was found out in some world states.

Nope. Anora doesn't have children with the male Cousland either, and we know for a fact that he is capable of getting Morrigan pregnant before the Battle of Denerim. No doubt his effectiveness has diminished in the follow years, but the fact that Anora didn't become pregnant at any point after the wedding proves that she is in fact barren.

[Dai Grepher]

I really do want the Architect back. I don't know what story device would necessarily involve him again, but I just want him, and to close off, or at least mostly close off, a series story about him and matters relating to him.*

It would involve the nature of the taint, obviously. If he's dead, then someone else would have to fill his role, like some trusted darkspawn emissary, or Seranni if she were properly trained before the conclusion of Awakening.

Personally, I would rather see a new darkspawn magister. I suspect there is a darkspawn magister who has a position of influence in Kal-Sharok, which explains why dwarves from that thaig are such isolationists.

Sapient darkspawn is a story I miss. DA2 brought them to just beasts again and DAI obviously put them off to the side. Please DA4 or at least a DA5 bring them back in a big (even if altered/new?) way.

I'm hoping for an awakened darkspawn hurlock emissary, and make him Andrastian for added irony.

[LobselVith8]

I doubt Solas would present his plans as such. He would likely promise her only that the ancient world of the elves would return, and omit the part about how even her own fellow modern elves will die in the raw chaos.

 

Considering how Solas handles the subject of the 'Dalish' with the elven protagonist and his own admission about his failures to engage in dialogue with the Dalish, I'd be very surprised at the notion of Solas bringing Velanna to his side. Or most of the Dalish, actually. His refusal to try and understand them during the crisis of the Breach would be the biggest impediment to him winning them over.

 

Given how we can support Briala to take leadership of Orlais, with her becoming the first elven Marquise of the Dales and her radical reforms to give the elves rights and land taking effect, I imagine some Andrastian elves might also be hesitant to trust the simple promises of Solas when there's a viable alternative that's already in existence.

 

Maybe. Depends on their current conditions, I would say. Some might want a change so badly that they throw caution to the wind. Sometimes... change is what sets them free. Some might also forsake the Dalish legends as false if Solas can demonstrate special powers or provide evidence condemning the evanuris.

 

Lavellan can potentially provide change already: possibly Wycome, with Clan Lavellan sitting on the council that runs the city-state, and also the Dales with Briala, so the Dalish and Andrastian elves have a better alternative than accepting Solas' promises. And given how Varric gave Lavellan the noble position of Comte (which possibly makes the elven protagonist the first elven noble in Kirkwall, if not the entire Free Marches), couldn't the Dalish clans easily see about finding safe harbor with him? It's not like Sundermount or the Wounded Coast are populated, or anything like that.

 

As for Solas' powers, this is still a world with magic and spirits, and if there are already alternatives to Solas' promises with the Dales, Wycome, and possibly Kirkwall (due to Comte Lavellan), I can see plenty of elves turning Solas down.

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's not possible (maybe the Dalish who follow the Forgotten Ones outside the borders of Serault - the elves with crimson vallaslin - might be more amenable to follow him), but I also see reasons why elves would refuse him if Lavellan makes certain choices.

 

Thanks. I think BioWare should also consider the fact that some players romanced Merrill. So having her show up again should be pretty important. Fenris too, I suppose, with Tevinter and all.

 

True. I honestly feel like Merrill would have an excellent choice to provide insight into the Eluvians, given all her study into the lore. It's strange that she puts all this effort into it during the Kirkwall saga, but then her arc is simply dropped. Even Briala's story arc with the Orlesian Eluvian network wasn't explored during Inquisition.

[thebigbad1013]

Very few of these are actually what I would call abandoned plotlines. As some have already pointed out, several of them have actually been resolved and some of them I don't even understand why you would consider them to be abandoned.

[Asha'bellanar]

I am a little bothered by the tiny number of mage abominations in DA:I. They were a huge deal in the first two games, and in DA:I, more than one person comments that mages, no matter their level of skill or willpower, are more at risk from demons with the Breach in the sky and Fade rifts all over the place, and yet NONE of the mages in the care of the Inquisition become abominations (that I can recall), and none of the ultra-rebel mages who are roaming the Hinterlands like idiots, gleefully throwing magic at anything that moves seem to become possessed. In Kirkwall, mages turned into abominations if they sneezed too hard, and in Origins, they seemed to abominate quite easily, as well (though with more effort than in Kirkwall). If anyone was going to become possessed, you'd think it'd be the running-amok rebel mages in the wilderness that's already full of demons, right? And yet none of them do.

 

As for the events of Awakening, there were so many lore problems with that expansion, I think BioWare just kind of wants to clear their throats and shuffle their feet and pretend it kinda maybe didn't happen, yeah, uh, look! A nug!

[Solace]

They would not of put the Architect in Dragon Age Keep if they weren't planning to do something further with him.

[LobselVith8]

I am a little bothered by the tiny number of mage abominations in DA:I. They were a huge deal in the first two games, and in DA:I, more than one person comments that mages, no matter their level of skill or willpower, are more at risk from demons with the Breach in the sky and Fade rifts all over the place, and yet NONE of the mages in the care of the Inquisition become abominations (that I can recall), and none of the ultra-rebel mages who are roaming the Hinterlands like idiots, gleefully throwing magic at anything that moves seem to become possessed. In Kirkwall, mages turned into abominations if they sneezed too hard, and in Origins, they seemed to abominate quite easily, as well (though with more effort than in Kirkwall). If anyone was going to become possessed, you'd think it'd be the running-amok rebel mages in the wilderness that's already full of demons, right? And yet none of them do.

 

Based on the Band of Three codex entries, that had to do with Kirkwall being a Tevinter Hellmouth, so it's not an accurate assessment of how things work for mages of Thedas.

[thepiebaker]

For being a supposed "master race" of demons, the abominations we've seen aren't exactly all that bright.

They keep blabbing their plans to anyone who will listen and it always seems to involve the same lofty goal of "All the world will be mine!" without any clear goal for how they will accomplish anything.

Sophia Dryden, Uldred and Connor's demons all share the same megalomaniac tendencies, an over-inflated sense of ego and belief in their own superiority. Which is part of the reason they are so easy to defeat and why demons never succeed in the long run.

They are simply too arrogant and drunk on their own power to actually be effective, because most of them are unable to act with enough subtlety that would allow them to fly under the radar long enough to acquire the power they crave. Especially when at every opportunity they get, they seem intent to broadcast "demonic shenanigans" to all and sundry.

Spirits/demons take the form that we perceive them to be, based on what Solas said.

You approach one you're unsure of and therefore afraid of, it becomes a terror demon. (As an example)

We perceive these demons possessing exceptional strength or possessing a body of significance we perceive they will go on a bond villain monolog and they do just that.



As for the OP many of these have many loose ends and variables. For example the wardens ruling. How many imports contain that? How many have avernus still ticking? They are not going to make anything for future games beyond the few references dai made to the imported decisions it already had. A book has a greater chance however that would then begin to canonize our player characters which if smart they would avoid when possible.

[I feel I should note a default game state does not equal canon just and optimal enough gamestate that newbies arnt missing "critical" content]

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

I am a little bothered by the tiny number of mage abominations in DA:I. They were a huge deal in the first two games, and in DA:I, more than one person comments that mages, no matter their level of skill or willpower, are more at risk from demons with the Breach in the sky and Fade rifts all over the place, and yet NONE of the mages in the care of the Inquisition become abominations (that I can recall), and none of the ultra-rebel mages who are roaming the Hinterlands like idiots, gleefully throwing magic at anything that moves seem to become possessed. In Kirkwall, mages turned into abominations if they sneezed too hard, and in Origins, they seemed to abominate quite easily, as well (though with more effort than in Kirkwall). If anyone was going to become possessed, you'd think it'd be the running-amok rebel mages in the wilderness that's already full of demons, right? And yet none of them do.

While I'll grant you the larger point, I think I remember reading about an Inquisition mage who turns in Jaws of Hakkon.

[Gilli]

While I'll grant you the larger point, I think I remember reading about an Inquisition mage who turns in Jaws of Hakkon.

 

You can even fight him. His name is Grandin. (sorry, vid is in german   )

 

[DementedSheep]

I am a little bothered by the tiny number of mage abominations in DA:I. They were a huge deal in the first two games, and in DA:I, more than one person comments that mages, no matter their level of skill or willpower, are more at risk from demons with the Breach in the sky and Fade rifts all over the place, and yet NONE of the mages in the care of the Inquisition become abominations (that I can recall), and none of the ultra-rebel mages who are roaming the Hinterlands like idiots, gleefully throwing magic at anything that moves seem to become possessed. In Kirkwall, mages turned into abominations if they sneezed too hard, and in Origins, they seemed to abominate quite easily, as well (though with more effort than in Kirkwall). If anyone was going to become possessed, you'd think it'd be the running-amok rebel mages in the wilderness that's already full of demons, right? And yet none of them do.

 

As for the events of Awakening, there were so many lore problems with that expansion, I think BioWare just kind of wants to clear their throats and shuffle their feet and pretend it kinda maybe didn't happen, yeah, uh, look! A nug!

That might be part of the reason why. We've already had the circle and connor in DAO and they overdid abominations and blood magic in DA2.  They may not want to keep harping that cord especially since I don't think being possessed is actually meant to be anywhere near that common.

[PunchFaceReporter]

Enchantment?

[Asha'bellanar]

Based on the Band of Three codex entries, that had to do with Kirkwall being a Tevinter Hellmouth, so it's not an accurate assessment of how things work for mages of Thedas.

I added that partly for comic exaggeration. I do realise it's easy to be misunderstood in plain text. I did play DA2 multiple times and I read the codex entries and I'm aware that Kirkwall just sucks in general. <-- only slightly exaggerated for comic effect

 

But the fact is DAO had loads of abominations, and not just in the mage tower. It also doesn't explain why two main characters in DA:I go on about how much more "at risk" mages are of falling prey to demons, and yet, nobody falls prey to demons, not even the hell bent for leather lunatics roaming around the Hinterlands.

[LobselVith8]

I added that partly for comic exaggeration. I do realise it's easy to be misunderstood in plain text. I did play DA2 multiple times and I read the codex entries and I'm aware that Kirkwall just sucks in general. <-- only slightly exaggerated for comic effect

 

But the fact is DAO had loads of abominations, and not just in the mage tower. It also doesn't explain why two main characters in DA:I go on about how much more "at risk" mages are of falling prey to demons, and yet, nobody falls prey to demons, not even the hell bent for leather lunatics roaming around the Hinterlands.

 

Abominations aren't supposed to be plentiful; the codex on abominations concedes that they "are rare".

[Dabrikishaw]

The only one of those I'd say were abandoned was the Harvester one. The others range from unresolved to left in the air for headcanoning.

[fhs33721]

Abominations aren't supposed to be plentiful; the codex on abominations concedes that they "are rare".

Bioware kind of shot themselves in the foot on this one by using the abomination model as completely worthless trash mobs unreasionably often in DAO and even more so in DA2 where they sometimes randomly crawl out of the floor for no perceivable reason.

Then when they toned down the abomination density in DAI to more reasonable levels people complained because it seemed very few in comparison.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

I'm sure Mythal does exist. The spirit that floated out of the Well and into the eluvian was probably her spirit. As for the knowledge of the Well, I'm wondering why the Inquisitor can't even ask questions or at least have it stated that the Well won't answer questions about Solas. If Mythal wants Solas to continue, then yeah, she won't let the Inquisitor know how to stop him. But I think this is because Solas' plans and Mythal's are consistent for now. My main issue with the Well is that you can't use it to ask about the titans, not even the veilfire rune on the titan mural, nor can you consult with it during the conversation with Solas or the spirits in the Vir Dirthara to verify any of it.

This is a legitimate complaint for the most part, but I'm not sure what the Well could add to the end conversation at Solas's place that Solas couldn't add, and if they are going with the "Solas is now Mythal" plot despite the plot hole where Solas could use the Anchor if that was the case the Well could have spoiled that.

 

 

Well I was thinking more along the lines of Valta referencing the Anvil or Shale at least. Both seem relevant to the theory on titans.

How so?

 

 

From what I remember, the Warden contact states that all Wardens in the south began hearing the Calling. So it seemed to me like Cory taught the Nightmare how to mimic the Calling, and then showed it how to send that telepathic message out to those who would hear it. I think the Hero was simply out of range, but Alistair wouldn't be.

Cole mentions that the two Wardens who helped that elf girl in Crestwood, the ones looking for the Warden contact, were still themselves. So maybe that means those two didn't hear the false Calling for some reason. Maybe they were new recruits. In that case it likely worked based on how far along the taint was in the Warden's body. Just like how the Hero couldn't hear the voices or sense darkspawn soon after the Joining.

But that doesn't answer the question I asked: do we know how the spell targets its targets? If we don't know that, then there's room for the spell to pick its targets in a way that means Alistair didn't hear it.

 

And even if he did...

 

 

My only point was that the Hero had the good sense to include that bit of information in the reply letter. Corypheus and his influence doesn't reach the Hero, wherever the Hero is. So that at least lets the Inquisitor know there is or was a range to it. Doesn't really matter after Adamant when you already know the truth, but the point is that the Hero shares important information with the Inquisitor, so a king Alistair should have as well.

I don't follow this argument. The Hero shares the information that he's not hearing the Calling, so Alistair should too?

 

For one thing, I don't think I get what one of those statements has to do with the other. For another, I still don't know if you can contact the Hero until you know that Corypheus is responsible for the early Calling, and I imagine it's one of the main reasons you do contact them. So, you almost certainly specifically warn the Hero that it's probably false, and ask about it. The Hero might not have said anything otherwise. And I don't think any of your contacts with King Alistair are focused on that issue.

 

 

Over with before what happens? Adamant? We can possibly meet Alistair at the end of IHW. We can also have written communication with him regarding Venatori agents in Denerim's court. So if he trusts the Inquisition with that, then why not info regarding the Grey Wardens, especially when the Inquisition's enemy is a darkspawn magister, and the Inquisition is in the process of tracking down the Wardens and why they were disappearing. Seems like Alistair would be one to ask, and if Alistair cares about the Order or just defeating Cory in general, then he would share the fact that he is hearing a Calling before his time.

Phrased that way, I suppose the Inquisition is a bit remiss not talking to Alistair about the vanishing Wardens. But unless he's specifically asked about the Calling, which the Inquisitior wouldn't know to do at the end of IHW and might not know to do at the time Alistair contacts them for help with the Venatori, King Alistair's probably going to assume that the Inquisitor doesn't know the Warden secrets, and he is theoretically supposed to keep those secret. Don't forget that he watched Duncan get a little testy over Jory trying to back out of the Joining after learning a bit too much. (The situation was more complicated than that, since Jory did draw and swing a sword before Duncan attacked, but that is part of what happened.)

 

True, he calls the Inquisition for help regarding the Venatori agents, but he had specific reasons to assume the Inquisition could help with that; namely, their spymaster was good at her job. What would he assume the Inquisition could do about the fact that he was hearing the Calling? For one thing, I don't think King Alistair has all that much reason to believe it's fake or even artificial: Alistair was fighting the darkspawn at close range during a Blight, which means continued exposure to more darkspawn taint. I'm not sure it's impossible that that would mean he's already hearing the Calling. It's only remarkable that he hears the Calling if he's still serving as a Warden, and that only because he started hearing it at the same time everyone else did.

 

And to follow that train of thought a bit further, why would a King Alistair who is hearing the Calling associate that with all the Wardens vanishing? To the best of my knowledge he's been given no reason to believe that his hearing the Calling is relevant information to that mystery.

[Asha'bellanar]

Abominations aren't supposed to be plentiful; the codex on abominations concedes that they "are rare".

My point: It's weak storytelling to have at least two major characters point out that mages are "more" at risk of becoming abominations due to the Breach and the many Fade rifts and all the demons roaming around, and then NONE of them become abominations (except in the weird Corypheus-future). So was it a risk, or not? Apparently, it was not. Now we have to decide if those characters are just sorely mistaken (and it is valid to have a character's bias influence the information they give you), or there was never really that much of a threat to begin with. On the other hand, we have Kirkwall, with the very thin Veil (that wasn't even torn or rifted as far as we are ever aware) and every mage and their uncle are blood mages and turning into abominations all over the place. The explanation given for that is that the Veil is thin. Then in DA:I, information from biased but generally reliable characters tell us that mages are more at risk due to the Breach/Rifts, and yet no mages -- not even the random idiots roaming around the Hinterlands, which is full of Fade rifts AND demons -- seem to be at any risk whatsoever. Basically, they need to make up their minds, but this is BioWare we're talking about, and they gave Nathaniel Howe two paternal grandfathers.

 

Arguing the codex or what is or isn't actually the case in the world is kind of moot. If it wasn't an issue, it shouldn't have been brought out as if it was going to be an issue. Deliberately putting in misleading clues is standard in stories like mysteries and suspense, but that's not what this was. It's just... weak storytelling.

 

Just my opinion, mind you. I'm sure plenty of people love it when they introduce potential plot developments that ultimately are completely meaningless and were just random wrong facts and loose ends and ultimately meaningless. Adds to the fun and gives nerds like me something to complain about in forums.

[BansheeOwnage]

My point: It's weak storytelling to have at least two major characters point out that mages are "more" at risk of becoming abominations due to the Breach and the many Fade rifts and all the demons roaming around, and then NONE of them become abominations (except in the weird Corypheus-future). So was it a risk, or not? Apparently, it was not.

*snip*

To be fair, just because something didn't happen doesn't mean there was no risk of it happening. But I agree that it's odd that it's brought up and leads basically nowhere.

[German Soldier]

The self cheated queen consort not Anora..

The warden queen consort as well as
most other wardens have nothing which is unresolved aside from the cure quest.

As i recall to my knowledge only the male warden HoF who romanced Morrigan but refused the ritual and to whom Morrigan later
in WH made the revelation of the birth of Kieran(special scenario of WH)and who
promised to Morrigan to come back for his son one day is currently unresolved.

[Arshei]

The warden queen consort as well as
most other wardens have nothing which is unresolved aside from the cure quest.

As i recall to my knowledge only the male warden HoF who romanced Morrigan but refused the ritual and to whom Morrigan later
in WH made the revelation of the birth of Kieran(special scenario of WH)and who
promised to Morrigan to come back for his son one day is currently unresolved.

 

How Kieran exists if you didn't do the ritual?

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

How Kieran exists if you didn't do the ritual?

If you romance Morrigan but don't do the Ritual, she turns out to have been pregnant with a normal child before the night she offered the Ritual.