silver matches with PUGs are the worst imho (at least on PC) - at least to me they seem way more competitive than gold matches/Pugs
over 90% of the gold matches I play (when I search UUG) are fun: mostly good teamwork (not only on objectives but also synergy in power usage) ... and to me the scoreboard matters of course - but even if I'm last but the game was fun and fast and the difference in score are actually marginal:
I'll be like a child: AGAIN!!!!!
We are all in the game to win, but to also have fun at the same time. Thing is there are a whole host of issues that can sometimes get in the way of that.....host rage-quitting...game disconnects, or pugs just not gelling when they get waxed. I don't mind pugs that are low on medigels or consumeables, but at least TRY.
If i'm in a game where everybody is mostly killing stuff and doing good EXCEPT the host keeps dying, then I know sooner or later that guy is going to rage-quit even tho we are trying to revive him and keep him vertical. But when the host rage-quits, that throws my excitement and fun out the door...i will leave that game and not load back into it.
The only time i will stay is if it's wave 10 or 11...gotta get those creds... 
...What am I assuming, exactly? That you're not good at understanding perspectives that aren't your own? Because this post is also kind of indicative of that.
Plus, you just admitted you're relatively new to this but then tried to cite your age as evidence that you know what you're talking about, which... doesn't make sense? But okay, buddy. Clearly you're an authority on the topic.
Insert sarcasm here: "I am glad that you realize that."
We are all in the game to win, but to also have fun at the same time. Thing is there are a whole host of issues that can sometimes get in the way of that.....host rage-quitting...game disconnects, or pugs just not gelling when they get waxed. I don't mind pugs that are low on medigels or consumeables, but at least TRY.
If i'm in a game where everybody is mostly killing stuff and doing good EXCEPT the host keeps dying, then I know sooner or later that guy is going to rage-quit even tho we are trying to revive him and keep him vertical. But when the host rage-quits, that throws my excitement and fun out the door...i will leave that game and not load back into it.
The only time i will stay is if it's wave 10 or 11...gotta get those creds...
I have seen that myself already.
I don't know why I am saying this but here we go:
"I was merely making an observation in my original thread and I thought that it was funny that we all died in the seventh wave. I wasn't trying to offend anyone.
YES, I like to win too. But winning isn't everything. It is how you play the game. And, for me it is the joy of playing with people from around the world. YES, it is always nice to play on a team that somehow just jells--without a single word being mentioned. And, even if we had lost the battle it was great to have worked with such awesome people.
I once played a in a game on silver where this player; I assume that he was from Great Britain, because of his accent; talked me through the entire game. Mostly telling me to watch my back and telling me what I was doing wrong. And, lo and behold, I did not find it offensive, but educational. I was very appreciative of his coaching, if you will. I would play along side him again in a heart beat.
What I appreciate most too are the people on here who have and are still are helping me grow in the game. As I said before there are maps that I really dislike and I do extremely poorly on, because of my dislike for them I am certain. Then again there are other maps that I seem to do well on--where I can usually score at the top of the list. Which brings to mind my mentor who tells me not to be concerned where you end up on the list. It is all about the coin.
(I have soloed Firebase Dagger on Bronze three times now with my Turian Sentinel. (I go there when there is no one in the lobby.) And, I am certain that there are players who would probably chastise me for how I accomplish it with my hit and run from cover tactic. Sure, it may take 25 minutes to get through the game, but who cares about how fast you can do it, as long as you do it?)
In closing, this was and is my own personal perspective. And again, it was not meant to offend anyone. Thank you.
It's not everything. It's the only thing. #IfYou'reNotFirstYou'reLast #SecondPlaceIsTheFirstLoser #I'mTheOneWhoLockedYouInTheReactor #DealWithIt
There's no I in TEAM but there's an I in WIN. 
There's no I in TEAM but there's an I in WIN.
"Team" is an anagram for "meat", which is all everyone else is anyway: fuckin' meat shields.
Winning all the time with no conceivable chance of failure is pretty boring to me, which is why I mostly solo these days and fail 999/1000 attempts
Hey, Jallard, I salute to you to everything you said here. 
Can't read.
Busy winning.
It's not everything. It's the only thing. #IfYou'reNotFirstYou'reLast #SecondPlaceIsTheFirstLoser #I'mTheOneWhoLockedYouInTheReactor #DealWithIt
Thank you. Much appreciated. The Reactor is not one of my favorite maps and I do extremely poorly in it. You see, I could leave the games when I find I am in a map that I dislike, but I am not one to leave my team regardless. That wouldn't be fair, just like locking me inside the reactor. But, people are people and it is to be expected from some.
I don't know why I am saying this but here we go:
"I was merely making an observation in my original thread and I thought that it was funny that we all died in the seventh wave. I wasn't trying to offend anyone.
YES, I like to win too. But winning isn't everything. It is how you play the game. And, for me it is the joy of playing with people from around the world. YES, it is always nice to play on a team that somehow just jells--without a single word being mentioned. And, even if we had lost the battle it was great to have worked with such awesome people.
I once played a in a game on silver where this player; I assume that he was from Great Britain, because of his accent; talked me through the entire game. Mostly telling me to watch my back and telling me what I was doing wrong. And, lo and behold, I did not find it offensive, but educational. I was very appreciative of his coaching, if you will. I would play along side him again in a heart beat.
What I appreciate most too are the people on here who have and are still are helping me grow in the game. As I said before there are maps that I really dislike and I do extremely poorly on, because of my dislike for them I am certain. Then again there are other maps that I seem to do well on--where I can usually score at the top of the list. Which brings to mind my mentor who tells me not to be concerned where you end up on the list. It is all about the coin.
(I have soloed Firebase Dagger on Bronze three times now with my Turian Sentinel. (I go there when there is no one in the lobby.) And, I am certain that there are players who would probably chastise me for how I accomplish it with my hit and run from cover tactic. Sure, it may take 25 minutes to get through the game, but who cares about how fast you can do it, as long as you do it?)
In closing, this was and is my own personal perspective. And again, it was not meant to offend anyone. Thank you.
Well put.
For those with I.B.S. don't read further. "Fools rush in where angels fear to tread" :
Well put.
For those with I.B.S. don't read further. "Fools rush in where angels fear to tread" :
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Thanks for the support.
I don't know why I am saying this but here we go:
"I was merely making an observation in my original thread and I thought that it was funny that we all died in the seventh wave. I wasn't trying to offend anyone.
YES, I like to win too. But winning isn't everything. It is how you play the game. And, for me it is the joy of playing with people from around the world. YES, it is always nice to play on a team that somehow just jells--without a single word being mentioned. And, even if we had lost the battle it was great to have worked with such awesome people.
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In closing, this was and is my own personal perspective. And again, it was not meant to offend anyone. Thank you.
Jallard, stop worrying about offending other people and the motives behind how other people are playing the game. **** all that, as long as you're getting better and having fun, does it even matter what a bunch of people think on the internet? Also there might be a lot of reasons why someone might've left your game, not at all related to you
Besides, winning in a co-op game? Please, you're 69, you should be sipping whiskey and laughing at the little pyjacks saying that while playing however the **** you like. Cheers!
Jallard, stop worrying about offending other people and the motives behind how other people are playing the game. **** all that, as long as you're getting better and having fun, does it even matter what a bunch of people think on the internet? Also there might be a lot of reasons why someone might've left your game, not at all related to you
Besides, winning in a co-op game? Please, you're 69, you should be sipping whiskey and laughing at the little pyjacks saying that while playing however the **** you like. Cheers!
Yea, I don't really know why the guy left and you are probably right that it wasn't about me. Well, I don't know about the Whiskey part, but there is my Starbucks coffee and sipping in between waves when there's a chance to. And, normally i don't care what others think of me, like the gentleman who locked me in the reactor. Even on Facebook some of my so called friends will chastise me for saying what I think in not so many PC words. Here I would get banned.
That all being said, I have an unrelated question: "How is it that if you are in the extraction zone and die, but revive prior to being picked up it shows you as being dead still, on the list?"
Yea, I don't really know why the guy left and you are probably right that it wasn't about me. Well, I don't know about the Whiskey part, but there is my Starbucks coffee and sipping in between waves when there's a chance to. And, normally i don't care what others think of me, like the gentleman who locked me in the reactor. Even on Facebook some of my so called friends will chastise me for saying what I think in not so many PC words. Here I would get banned.
That all being said, I have an unrelated question: "How is it that if you are in the extraction zone and die, but revive prior to being picked up it shows you as being dead still, on the list?"
I haven't had that issue and if I remember correctly, I've seen some people get revived just before the timer runs out to get a full extraction. So unless you're seeing it consistently, it's probably a latency issue or a glitch.
I was a Hippie in the sixties and the seventies, but I gave it up for health reasons.
I've taken an alternate path - I was a careerist in the eighties and nineties, but I gave it up for health reasons. Full Second Gen Hippie status confirmed now. 
There is no 'winning' in a co-op game, unless the definition is 'Mission Successful'.
I haven't had that issue and if I remember correctly, I've seen some people get revived just before the timer runs out to get a full extraction. So unless you're seeing it consistently, it's probably a latency issue or a glitch.
I thought as much. The other day I was playing and my video card froze up. At first I thought it was my wireless mouse, because sometimes it stops working and I have to open it up reposition the battery. I have also witnessed some stutter.
Yea, I don't really know why the guy left and you are probably right that it wasn't about me. Well, I don't know about the Whiskey part, but there is my Starbucks coffee and sipping in between waves when there's a chance to. And, normally i don't care what others think of me, like the gentleman who locked me in the reactor. Even on Facebook some of my so called friends will chastise me for saying what I think in not so many PC words. Here I would get banned.
That all being said, I have an unrelated question: "How is it that if you are in the extraction zone and die, but revive prior to being picked up it shows you as being dead still, on the list?"
As far as getting banned for **** words while expressing ones self, if one **** ***** with **** ***** and then **** some more. Then there is nothing to get banned for. And we all have fun imagining the words you might have used
On your extraction issue, I've had that happen to me a few times. I heard from a more experienced player that if you're not standing fully erect when the counter runs out the game counts you as dead.
I am on PC. I was playing earlier today on silver and we were at the reactor playing against the Collector, I believe. I got killed and was out of medigel. But, while I was lying there my weapon, the Adas, continued to fire until the end of the game. Then during the following two games I could hear every sound but my own weapon. It was if it were on silent. So, I closed out of the game, came back in and everything was back to normal. You got to love DELL XPS computers. I could only upgrade the stupid video card to a GeForce GTX 750. It;s a piece of crap. But, I cannot afford a new one.
Reactor is funny, I don't know why. It seems to be the most frequent map where you get the guy with the Particle Rifle beam that is constantly firing in weird directions. I had one game as a Juggernaut with a Spitfire on Reactor where the controller rumble / screen shake you get from firing the Spitfire messed up. Instead of getting the rumble/shake while I was firing, it happened every time I was NOT firing. The screen would be perfectly still when I was firing. Made headshots a lot easier, but it was super annoying just walking around.
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That all being said, I have an unrelated question: "How is it that if you are in the extraction zone and die, but revive prior to being picked up it shows you as being dead still, on the list?"
It's a timing phenomenon - I recall Fire saying that there is ca. a 4-5 second window on this matter (he has played much more).
He can chime in on this but I'll explain what I understood from it and experienced myself on console:
Setting the scene : We're on W11 and the clock ticks down to 0. Maybe it is different for PC than for console :
1) If you die in 9-6 seconds left , get revive or medigel. you'll get a successful extract post.
2) If you die with 4-5 seconds left, revive, then hail queen mary and pray to RNG. Sometimes you extract and sometimes you don't. All weird stuff like latency, a nincompoop host on a mobile connection may play a role, basically like russian roulette.
3) If you die with 2-3 seconds left, get revive or medigel. you'll likely get a unsuccessfull extract. and less credits. In this intance it is not even worthwhile to waste a gel.
4a) There is a small sidenote glitch to this also. If you die as only survivor in the Extraction zone (EZ) in w11, whenever, you till get a lone survivor banner and mostly get successfull extract with no green check against your name, I belief I got no full credits also. I don't know whether this counts in the challenges as successful extract also (ie when the challenge is "# successful extracts", if the challenge is "200 waves" it counts the successful waves only.
4b) Ofc if you die anywhere outside the EZ, you get a mission failed, as expected.
4c) If someone dies on the EZ in w11, and his partner survives later but dies in some strange corner outside the EZ, then someone gets no check mark but mission successful. Partner also gets no checkmark.
Some points above needs to be confirmed still.
...if you're not standing fully erect when the counter runs out the game counts you as dead.
hehe- I can't unsee that pic canozzie68, it's forever burnt into my skull.
lots of sane advice on this page; have fun, worry less and yeah dont think too much about what folks u play think or say it doesnt matter u know who u are that should be enuff
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