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[Christy]

Oxford Dictionaries about feminism: "The advocacy of women’s rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes." If you support the idea that the sexes should be equals, as I suspect you would do as a humanist, then you are, per definition, a feminist. How else should we see it? Now feel free to rage on. Make a blog about like your like-minded angry young men. Shout out how liberation of women are all about emasculating males. I don't see the point of this conversation. It's 3 in the morning here, and I ,for one, am going to sleep now. Have a good day.

[fdrty]

For an in-game answer as to where darker skinned people come from, we can assume Rivain and probably Tevinter. There are probably other places to the south that have more dark-skinned people.

 

All we have are assumptions, any character could have some hidden ancestry or may just be atypical of the racial background of their respective cultures. But, from what we've seen, we can assume that:

 

The chasind are dark skinned and I presume some Alamarri clans were too.

 

At least some dark skinned elves were a part of the Tevinter Imperium.

 

Anitvans are also dark skinned: Josephine and Zevran - both humans and elves. Along with Rivain.

 

Vivienne is from Markham in the free marches (I think, that or Wycombe) So you can assume that either Tevinter moved citizens there (empires tend to move people around), or black tribes pre-Tevinter existed there and were subjugated.

 

There are dark skinned people in West Orlais (not surprising, as there is so much desert there).

 

But all of this is rather pointless. The diversity in no way harms Dragon Age and works thematically and practically. It would be a far more boring world if everyone looked the same.

[fdrty]

Oxford Dictionaries about feminism: "The advocacy of women’s rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes." If you support the idea that the sexes should be equals, as I suspect you would do as a humanist, then you are, per definition, a feminist. How else should we see it? Now feel free to rage on. Make a blog about like your like-minded angry young men. Shout out how liberation of women are all about emasculating males. I don't see the point of this conversation. It's 3 in the morning here, and I ,for one, am going to sleep now. Have a good day.

 

Go ahead. All that brainwashing might as well be contagious. God, the third wave really destroyed the minds of woman and men with a bunch of arrogant elitist ideals.

 

 

This has really got nothing to do with the topic.

 

Also, I fail to see what either of you are getting from this discussion.

[Christy]

All we have are assumptions, any character could have some hidden ancestry or may just be atypical of the racial background of their respective cultures. But, from what we've seen, we can assume that:

 

The chasind are dark skinned and I presume some Alamarri clans were too.

 

At least some dark skinned elves were a part of the Tevinter Imperium.

 

Anitvans are also dark skinned: Josephine and Zevran - both humans and elves. Along with Rivain.

 

Vivienne is from Markham in the free marches (I think, that or Wycombe) So you can assume that either Tevinter moved citizens there (empires tend to move people around), or black tribes pre-Tevinter existed there and were subjugated.

 

There are dark skinned people in West Orlais (not surprising, as there is so much desert there).

 

But all of this is rather pointless. The diversity in no way harms Dragon Age and works thematically and practically. It would be a far more boring world if everyone looked the same.

Well, that's why it's nice to have this big forum. Some topics will interest you and some will seem pointless. It wasn't pointless for me as I wondered a lot about the subject and learned a few things. Josephine and Zevran aren't black, though. There are probably people with a lot of different ethnicities in Antiva even so, but I don't know much about the country in all honesty.

Thanks for the input!

 

This has really got nothing to do with the topic.

 

Also, I fail to see what either of you are getting from this discussion.

Agreed, I regret it already. Don't answer back when irritated, that's a good rule.

[Asha'bellanar]

But all of this is rather pointless. The diversity in no way harms Dragon Age and works thematically and practically. It would be a far more boring world if everyone looked the same.

I am only replying to this because you quoted my post with its few random thoughts.

 

I never have and never would imply or suggest that diversity harms the game or doesn't work within the world setting.

 

Please be careful who you quote when you make assertions that imply you need to counter something. I am very much a supporter of diversity in all forms, including within game universes.

[In Exile]

These parallels to Europe (and Earth) don't work. Humans are strangers to Thedas, by all accounts. There's no clear indication evolution is a thing. We aren't entirely clear on what the origins of humans are in setting or how they got to Thedas. Being cosmopolitan by default isn't an issue in these fantasy settings when their basic cosmology is nothing like it is IRL.

[thats1evildude]

 

You may have a point with the rendering of dark skin. Perhaps the creators wanted Ferelden diverse from the start but were unable to. That still doesn't explain how, in a world inspired by the dark ages, a country came to be so mixed, though.

 

That is exactly what they wanted to do. And Thedas is very loosely-inspired by Dark Ages Europe.

[GoldenGail3]

Well, that's why it's nice to have this big forum. Some topics will interest you and some will seem pointless. It wasn't pointless for me as I wondered a lot about the subject and learned a few things. Josephine and Zevran aren't black, though. There are probably people with a lot of different ethnicities in Antiva even so, but I don't know much about the country in all honesty.
 

Josie and Zev look Spanish, I feel like Antiva is Spain, sort of. 

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Antivans seem to range from having dark to pale skin, not unlike latinos in real life. 

[Christy]

These parallels to Europe (and Earth) don't work. Humans are strangers to Thedas, by all accounts. There's no clear indication evolution is a thing. We aren't entirely clear on what the origins of humans are in setting or how they got to Thedas. Being cosmopolitan by default isn't an issue in these fantasy settings when their basic cosmology is nothing like it is IRL.

That's something I haven't ever thought of for sure. I can't even imagine a world working without an evolution 

[SerTabris]

Incidentally, the humanist associations and groups I am familiar with (secular humanists, mainly) are feminist or pro-feminist, and are typically willing to say so.

[General TSAR]

Incidentally, the humanist associations and groups I am familiar with (secular humanists, mainly) are feminist or pro-feminist, and are typically willing to say so.

Must be why they are alienating so many atheists, agnostics, and humanists.

[FKA_Servo]

Must be why they are alienating so many atheists, agnostics, and humanists.

 

Just the ones in the more misanthropic corners of reddit, actually.

[General TSAR]

Just the ones in the more misanthropic corners of reddit, actually.

Nah, plenty moderates as well.

 

Guess when you try to shove an ideology that relies on feelings into one that relies on facts, you get an ideological clash.

[Christy]

Incidentally, the humanist associations and groups I am familiar with (secular humanists, mainly) are feminist or pro-feminist, and are typically willing to say so.

Same here. :-) I don't really encounter people in real life who are strongly against feminism. At most, some people just don't care that much about the issue, which is fine by me. We all have different interests and are passionate about different things. I was born in Norway, and we're mostly liberal people here, so that might be why I haven't seen much anger towards topics like feminism at all.