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[Qun00]

I know most people do it just so they won't be one companion short, but roleplay wise I just... can't do it.

All the marvelous redeeming qualities you discover after getting to know him better aren't made known during that first encounter.

Zevran just says he is afraid of dying and that the Crows won't take him back. But why would the Warden believe it?

[Catilina]

I know most people do it just so they won't be one companion short, but roleplay wise I just... can't do it.

All the marvelous redeeming qualities you discover after getting to know him better aren't made known during that first encounter.

Zevran just says he is afraid of dying and that the Crows won't take him back. But why would the Warden believe it?

Good question, but perhaps there is a somewhat rational answer: he are a professional assassin had no personal reason to kill. He betrayed, who comissioned him the murder, and his response seemed not a lie. He is alone, the Warden with a group. I did not see a big risk , but I did see a potential ally. Not so unusual for someone to switch over to the other side. Just need to pay attention to him.

 

But this question was in any topic, not it? 

[Qun00]

I'm not so sure that being in the company of a group makes you safer. In truth, taking this assassin with you represents greater danger than the open battle where he lost.

As Morrigan correctly points out, it would be as simple as poisoning the food or cutting everyone's throats in their sleep.

[ArcadiaGrey]

I find it strange that most players don't think twice about saving a child murdering Qunari, but then say they won't take Zevran.  

I have 4 wardens, their reasoning -

 

-Hell no, he'll kill me *knife to the throat*

 

-Well I'm from Orzammar, therefore I admire his skills and ooh look he uses that poison I really like!  Also, super hot.  Just sayin. *saved and romanced*

 

-Eehhhh.....pfffttt....I let that Qunari die, we really need some help here....and I can always kill him later.  He could be useful and have an angle on Loghain. *saved but disliked so he turned on her*

 

-I'll give anyone a second chance tbh, Sten, Shale, Loghain, anybody.  I'm Dalish and believe that you shouldn't judge too quickly.  Plus he's an elf so it's a little harder to off him.  Also kinda admiring his knife skills. *saved, good mates*

[Qun00]

The child murdering Qunari surrendered to the authorities and said he seeks atonement. He even considers death at the hands of the approaching darkspawn horde a valid way to find it.

Zevran's argument in his defense revolves around self-preservation.

[ArcadiaGrey]

The child murdering Qunari surrendered to the authorities and says he seeks atonement. He even considers death at the hands of the approaching darkspawn horde a valid way to find it.

Zevran's argument in his defense revolves around self-preservation.

 

Hmmm.  Nope.  Zevran is willing to die for his crimes.

 

Why do Qunari get given so much more rope than any other race??  They seem to be everyone's special snowflakes.

Sten killed a bunch of children cause he threw a tantrum.  Way worse.

[Catilina]

I'm not so sure that being in the company of a group makes you safer. In truth, taking this assassin with you represents greater danger than the open battle where he lost.

As Morrigan correctly points out, it would be as simple as poisoning the food or cutting everyone's throats in their sleep.

Or in the tent, yeah (but in the camp anyone always watch). I tell you, it's a difficult question, but I has been assumed, that either he may say the truth. (And everyone must die sometime, from something...)

[Catilina]

Hmmm.  Nope.  Zevran is willing to die for his crimes. [...]

 

This is true, but at the moment you don't know this. All you know is that he wanted to kill you, and now he wants to live. That's also true.

[ArcadiaGrey]

It's one of the strange things about RPGs.  We're often faced with a character who the game clearly wants you to recruit, even though in reality there seems little reason to do it.  But you do anyway, because that's video games, and just hum a tune and go on with your day.

 

If you were living your life as the Warden, Hawke, Shep or the IQ, who would you genuinely take on as part of your crew?  Most of them are nuts.

[Qun00]

Hmmm. Nope. Zevran is willing to die for his crimes.

Why do Qunari get given so much more rope than any other race?? They seem to be everyone's special snowflakes.
Sten killed a bunch of children cause he threw a tantrum. Way worse.

Well, I'm curious now. When did Zevran ever say he is willing to die as punishment for his actions?

I don't remember Zevran ever speaking a word against his past career. His only problem with the Crows is how he was personally treated by them.

[Catilina]

Well, I'm curious now. When did Zevran ever say he is willing to die as punishment for his actions?

I don't remember Zevran ever speaking a word against his past career. His only problem with the Crows is how he was personally treated by them.

Yes. He said.

 

He said it was a suicide mission, wanted to get away from the Crows (and regret some murder: especially a woman, I do not remember her name), but if not need necessarily he don't want to die...

[Qun00]

Citation needed. Details of the circumstances are appreciated.

[Catilina]

Citation needed. Details of the circumstances are appreciated.

 Zevran and Taliesen were tasked with killing Rinna, whom the Rosso Noche were trying to put forward as an heir to King Natale. Following her murder, the heart seemed to go out of Zevran. Indeed, it appeared that during later missions, Taliesen was covering for Zevran in order to keep up the appearance that Zevran was still a loyal member of the Crows. His later bid for a contract to kill the two remaining Grey Wardens in Ferelden was interpreted by some in the Crows as an attempt to attain the rank of master, but was in actuality a suicide attempt

 

He just said that, if he are in the good friendship with your Warden.

[Saburau]

For me, I spared him for two reasons: he would have useful information on the current situation with Loghain and Howe, having recently met them. Also, I don't like assassins, but in the fight against the darkspawn, a Grey Warden takes any potential help.

[nightscrawl]

Because "we need all the help we can get." That's pretty much it. I don't fully trust him immediately, but am willing to give him a chance to prove himself.

[Beregond5]

I headcanon my first canon Warden (Dalish rogue) having a bit of 'Hello, nurse! ' moment upon seeing him, so that's one reason for sparing him. XD My female Warden (Cousland Warrior) has confidence in her abilities and figures that, if she's beaten him before, she can kill him off later if he betrays her. He doesn't, so it worked out for both of them.

[GoldenGail3]

I headcanon my first canon Warden (Dalish rogue) having a bit of 'Hello, nurse! ' moment upon seeing him, so that's one reason for sparing him. XD My female Warden (Cousland Warrior) has confidence in her abilities and figures that, if she's beaten him before, she can kill him off later if he betrays her. He doesn't, so it worked out for both of them.

I would think that would be like how my Cousland would've been like if she didn't kill Loghian, but alas, being Queen and marrying Alistair actually legit meant something to her, so... Dead Loghian. He's alive in some of my worldstates though; because I really truly respect him in DAI.. I image my Cousland would've let him live if it weren't for Alistair though.

[Beregond5]

I would think that would be like how my Cousland would've been like if she didn't kill Loghian, but alas, being Queen and marrying Alistair actually legit meant something to her, so... Dead Loghian. He's alive in some of my worldstates though; because I really truly respect him in DAI.. I image my Cousland would've let him live if it weren't for Alistair though.

Yeah, that happens to me too. XD Curse you Alistair and your adorable puppy eyes! *shakes fist*

 

[themikefest]

to get the hopelessly romantic, easy lover and recruiter trophies. The rest of the time I kill him

[Catilina]

Yeah, that happens to me too. XD Curse you Alistair and your adorable puppy eyes! *shakes fist*

 

My Cousland spared Zevran's life for his adorable look (it was a clearly logic deision!), after had broke his heart for Anora's adorabe throne...

[Beregond5]

My Cousland save Zevran for his adorable look, after broke his heart for Anora's adorabe throne...

XD Oh ouch. Oh well, if you can't keep him on the side as Prince-consort... XD

I have never done the Ultimate Sacrifice with Zevran as lover either, come to think of it. Maybe I should try it at some point. Hmm...

[Catilina]

XD Oh ouch. Oh well, if you can't keep him on the side as Prince-consort... XD

I have never done the Ultimate Sacrifice with Zevran as lover either, come to think of it. Maybe I should try it at some point. Hmm...

(Ofc... he kept Zevran as royal lover. Zevran agreed, he said," It's sad, but we will solve somehow"...) 

[Avatiach]

my first warden spared being merciful and against killing for some wierd reason, but he didn't trust him to join the team so he just let him go. 2nd warden killed him. 3rd warden was big on the use your enemy tools against them so she did take him in. it's really a matter of prespective in the end, i play tons of different chars each have different prespective.

[Qun00]

Zevran and Taliesen were tasked with killing Rinna, whom the Rosso Noche were trying to put forward as an heir to King Natale. Following her murder, the heart seemed to go out of Zevran. Indeed, it appeared that during later missions, Taliesen was covering for Zevran in order to keep up the appearance that Zevran was still a loyal member of the Crows. His later bid for a contract to kill the two remaining Grey Wardens in Ferelden was interpreted by some in the Crows as an attempt to attain the rank of master, but was in actuality a suicide attempt

He just said that, if he are in the good friendship with your Warden.

Mentioning that during his first encounter with the Warden could save his life.

[Vanilka]

For me it's easy, because my favourite Warden, Mahariel, is very young, naive idealist. She's Dalish, too. So when she heard about Zevran, an elf on the top of that, having been sold to slavery as a little boy, she softened up a bit. Not to even mention they needed all the help they could get and there they had a trained killer offering help. She was willing to risk it. Moreover, being who she was, with the life she'd had prior joining the Wardens, she wasn't quite so hardened yet, so it was not in her nature to kill those that had already surrendered and did not fight back.

 

For my Cousland, it was a matter of, "Crap, he's kind of cute and funny and I don't really feel like lopping his head off," amongst other things. Zevran is quite a sweet talker, isn't he? His wit, charm, cooperation, and sad story earned him a chance. Cousland could see the benefits of keeping him alive.

 

My Brosca came from a shady background, so she could relate to being in a position where you have no choice but to turn to crime because the only other option is death. She wanted to give Zevran a chance, just like Duncan gave her one.

 

My Surana grew up in the Circle surrounded by (story)books and completely isolated from reality, head in the clouds, so she was too quick to trust and she wanted to believe somewhere in there was a good person merely forced by circumstances. She's probably the youngest character I've ever played (17) and I think her age and the environment she grew up in reflected the choice.

 

My Amell was a fickle person who tended to decide on her whims and she thought Zevran looked like he could be fun in addition to being useful.

 

 

Most of my Wardens didn't trust Zevran immediately and they kept an eye on him for quite some time, though. I admit I haven't killed Zevran yet, despite there being very good reasons to do so. I don't think it fitted any of my Wardens' personalities so far.