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[Solitaira]

... not for the reasons you might think. I totally loved DA:I and, though I've played many MMOs and RPGs, I don't think I've ever been so immersed in a character. This time, she was an Elf Mage/Knight-Enchanter.

 

This is NOT a brag. I've got a neuro-muscular disease that ensures I'm a really bad player; so, I do everything in casual mode. Still, in this my 2nd play-through, I never had a party member die ... ever, and I did all the dragons and all the DLCs. And I did everything real time, never once used tactical camera. It was very gratifying to accomplish this, and probably contributes to my current state of bummed outedness.

 

Having squeezed every ounce of juice out of Inquisition (my character was almost level 28 when Trespasser ended), I'm not ready to do it all over again just yet -- maybe in a month.

 

So, what next? I've looked at youtubes of DA: Origins, but I'm not sure I want to do that clunky UI. Thoughts on this?

 

Can anyone recommend another RPG (aside from Elder Scrolls -- done them all) that is somewhat similar -- one that won't tax my limited abilities and that will really let me get into my character?

 

Any suggestions gratefully accepted

 

Thank you in advance.

 

 

[Beerfish]

Hate to go against something you said you didn't want to do becasue of the UI but if you have not played Origins I would for sure go for that.  The Origins themselves bring a very different flavor to the game and most of them were really well done.  The game may look a bit dated now but it's still very good from the RPG aspect.

[nightscrawl]

I can't recommend anything, sorry.

 

But...

 

As far as combat in DAO is concerned, it might be worth your while to look into the advanced tactics guides on the DAO forums and elsewhere. The tactics setups for DAO and DA2 are MUCH more advanced, so if playing on easy mode (which I do as well), you can basically "set it and forget it" while you just concentrate on your own character. If you bring along Wynne as your healer, she is pretty good at keeping the party going without much interference on almost all fights. (The fight that was an exception to this for me is the final boss fight where I had to take control to cast a lot of AOE heals which the AI is really conservative with.)

 

DA2 has a much more simple UI as well, but similar advanced tactics to DAO.

 

 

I'd also suggest that a little more information will help other players recommend games for you. Do you use the mouse/keyboard, or plug in a controller? What about the DAI menus did you find helpful? Being a fully abled person myself, and using just minimal mouse movements to navigate the UI, makes it difficult to understand exactly what you're looking for with a game UI. For example, I can move the cursor around my entire screen while keeping my entire arm still by only rotating my wrist, but I don't know if you're able to do that, or if you would find that painful, etc.

[Ms. Sarsaparilla]

It depends on what you mean by clunky UI. If you are referring to the dated graphics, then yeah, that eliminates DA:O and a lot of other high-quality older games. If you mean the gameplay, it doesn't "flow" in the same way as Inquisition does on a good day, but it has many good qualities that make it, overall, probably the best-loved DA game. In particular, the Tactics system is both helpful and fun to mess with, and with fewer "action RPG" elements than DA:I, I would expect it to be, if anything, more comfortable for a person with coordination and/or reflex issues. Unfortunately, you just missed an excellent sale price for DA:O on Steam. I wouldn't pay full price for such an old game. Wishlist it and wait for the price to drop again.

 

Here is a similar thread you can scan for ideas:

http://forum.bioware...-arrg-too-much/

 

And one on reddit:

https://www.reddit.c..._to_dragon_age/

 

It would help if you tell us what kind of system you use (PC/XBox/PS4?), if you have any preferences about genres (Fantasy? Sci Fi? Post apocalypse?), and what helps you feel immersed.

 

The obvious suggestions are the rest of the BioWare catalog, and Fallout 4. Also, Witcher 3 gets a lot of love, but with a non-customizable male protagonist and action RPG mechanics, it's just not my cup of tea.

Reaching a bit further afield, I really love Arcanum ($6 on gog.com), an old game that is best played in turn-based mode. It has an excellent story and a lot of character customization, but the graphics are dated and you'd probably find the UI "clunky."

[PapaCharlie9]

This is NOT a brag. I've got a neuro-muscular disease that ensures I'm a really bad player; so, I do everything in casual mode. Still, in this my 2nd play-through, I never had a party member die ... ever, and I did all the dragons and all the DLCs. And I did everything real time, never once used tactical camera. It was very gratifying to accomplish this, and probably contributes to my current state of bummed outedness.

There's nothing wrong with being proud of accomplishing something, particularly when you are overcoming a personal challenge in doing so. I don't think the concept of "brag" comes within a light-year of what you wrote.

I can't think of anything to recommend that would come close. Bioware pretty much owns the story-focused fantasy RPG genre that accommodates casual play. Most of Bioware's competitors have gone in the opposite direction, making the games "git gud" difficult.

If you are willing to venture out of FRPG, there are some possibilities, like Knights of the Old Republic (Bioware). There are also some pretty good point-and-click adventures, from Fables (pretty much anything by Telltale Games) to Life Is Strange, that focus on story.

[Gya]

If you're looking for an action RPG, Witcher 3 may be worth a look. As mentioned above, it has a non customisable male PC, so if that's a deal breaker for you, avoid it. I was wary of it for that very reason, but after playing it, I can say I was very pleasantly surprised indeed.

If you're not set on an action RPG, Divinity: Original Sin is an absolutely brilliant cRPG that is well worth a look. It's turn based, so it hopefully wouldn't be an issue for you to play.

[straykat]

If you're looking for an action RPG, Witcher 3 may be worth a look. As mentioned above, it has a non customisable male PC, so if that's a deal breaker for you, avoid it. I was wary of it for that very reason, but after playing it, I can say I was very pleasantly surprised indeed.

If you're not set on an action RPG, Divinity: Original Sin is an absolutely brilliant cRPG that is well worth a look. It's turn based, so it hopefully wouldn't be an issue for you to play.

 

Both great suggestions... and better than DAI (for different reasons).

 

But if the OP hasn't even played DA: Origins, I'd suggest that.

[Solitaira]

Thank you for suggestions and links given so far.

 

I use a PC platform, with Razor Naga mouse and keyboard. I could not possibly get by without macros, most days I cannot click reliably on screen icons.

 

I did look into Witcher, but I've never been fond of playing other peoples' characters. Will likely give DA:O a try after all. Sadly, after years of being and Elder Scrolls lore geek, I'm quite enjoying DA. That said, s'pose I must do DA:O just for the lore injection

 

Thank you again.

[ArcadiaGrey]

If you download a mod named 'fifth dog slot' for DAO it's helpful, and remember the order of the quests.  There's a level order that the game doesn't really tell you about, you can find it on the wiki.  It'll save you from accidently getting in over your head.

http://dragonage.wik...uests_(Origins)

 

I dislike the combat in DAO, it's too complex with all the spells so I play mostly on casual.  I'd recommend a rogue archer as there aren't too many spells for it, and you can stand back and observe the other characters.  

Remember you can always enable the console and cheat a bit (giving yourself extra xp so you're over levelled for example) to make it easier to play.

 

DA2 is much clearer and easier, a smoother combat system with clearly visible combat animations.  I much prefer it, so after DAO head over to DA2.

 

Other than that there's Mass Effect, and I love Deus Ex Human Revolution.  There's not so much RPG with it, but you can stealth the whole game and take it slowly, hiding and using sleeping darts so that you can avoid combat.

[Solitaira]

I went through the tutorial portion on DA:O as a human mage; am currently at the first camp, looking for Alistair. I think I've been spoiled by MMOs and Elder Scrolls games. This is clearly not for me; the need to continually pause to setup party members is an immersion killer. And, yes, the interface seems horribly clunky, and the map, gads, I need something clearer than that. My whole playstyle is real-time run and gun. My nephew, who's an avid gamer and chess player would probably adore DA:O, but it's just not my cup of tea.

 

If my comment, just above, sounds disparaging, I don't mean it that way. DA:O is obviously a very popular game. It's just not for me. I appreciate all the input to my initial question. I shall sift through the recommendations and give them a try.

 

Again, thank you so very much!

[straykat]

Ah.. that's too bad. Maybe just give it to your nephew

 

If you like the Elder Scrolls, just do like me and wait out until the Special Edition of Skyrim comes out  If you don't mind shooting/sci-fi, then you might like Fallout 4. I hope the new Skyrim runs as well as this.

[thats1evildude]

Could I suggest Fable? The series is officially dead but the games are still available. It's not the most immersive RPG, but it accomodates run and gun and is very low-difficulty.

[Spirit Vanguard]

Ha, my first attempt at Origins was... dismal (because I'm never great at a game the first time I play) because I wasn't used to the non-real-time fighting either. But I stuck with it, and 2, and only got better. By the time I got to Inquisition's more live-action combat I was whatisthiswherearemytactics? Not trying to force you to play it or anything, just saying I've never sucked as bad at any game as when I started playing DAO so I can relate.       And seriously, the Cone of Cold spell is your best friend.

[Tidus]

Solitaira,Allow me to share this. I have limited use of my right hand (thumb and forefinger does not work) and those RPGs that require 20 fingers and 10 thumbs is out as is computer RPGs.

 

DA:O is still my favorite game and I do not set up the party's combat I let them fight as they will I tank my main characters  my rogue,Leliana (rogue) Zevran (rogue) and Morrigan. I just use the standard battle buttons and L1/2 and R1/2 control all with my left hand I can swing the camera with my right  hand. Same for DA:I and my few attempts at playing DA:2.

 

Final Fantasy games also have simple battle controls. If you have a PS2 I highly recommend Final Fantasy 12 or any of the Lord Of The Rings for PS2.

 

For the record I have a SNES, PS1,PS2,PS3, XBox 360 and  Xbox1 all set up on my gaming table hooked to a 36" flat TV by a 6 way selector.  I am currently playing FF 12 and DA:I. After completion of the current games I will move to Final Fantasy 2 on SNES and LOTR on PS2.

[Dai Grepher]

Origins has a better UI than Inquisition does. If you go from Inquisition to Origins you'll probably find it liberating. Go with Origins.

[Andraste_Reborn]

If you're not set on an action RPG, Divinity: Original Sin is an absolutely brilliant cRPG that is well worth a look. It's turn based, so it hopefully wouldn't be an issue for you to play.

 

Just to provide another perspective, after seeing a lot of good reviews, I was disappointed with Divinity: Original Sin. It's my fault for not reading closely enough - it turns out that when everyone talked about how deep and complex it was they were talking about the turn-based combat and the skill system, not the story and the characters. I still haven't managed to finish it. Maybe the Enhanced Edition is better?

 

(And yet, I still backed the sequel on Kickstarter. It has race selection and it looks like they're moving in a more BioWare-esque direction with the story and characters.)

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Are you only interested in fantasy genre games? I notice you said you don't like playing someone else's characters and you enjoy the storytelling/roleplaying aspects of Elder Scrolls games and Inquisition. If you're mostly in it for that, you might enjoy Fallout 3, New Vegas and 4, and the Mass Effect trilogy. Those games are in really different world settings, but if you like the storytelling system and the ability to make your own character, your own choices that effect the world state, and all that, then you might find those games fit what you're looking for. I thought the story telling and companion character development in Fallout 4 was really well done, especially. It's the closest Bethesda has come to creating a "real" feeling setting and cast, imo. If you like playing a "run and gun" style without setting up tactics and everything, it fits that, too.

[phoray]

I don't know if you noticed, but Origins has pre made tactics settings that are actually pretty good. I hate setting up the if then tactics, so would go with a preset, add one line for when to drink a potion, to focus on smashing mages before anything else, and move on.

Which I find funny saying, because then I miss them for DAI. Sometimes my characters do stupid things. I also can't tell them to focus on mages.

[Gold Dragon]

And in Origins, one can make Wynne cast a spell that heals the entire party, not just one person..

[Tidus]

Gold Dragon, Morrigan can learn "Group heal" as well later in the game if you select Spirit Healer specialization..

[Gold Dragon]

But with Wynne, you only need to get her attributes up.

 

Morrigan can not learn a new spec until level 14, iirc.

[Madeline McQueen]

I have to agree with above posters, if you haven't tried DA:O or II, then I highly recommend trying them first, you may be pleasantly surprised. :-D Plus, you might learn something from the Dragon Age history you probably would have missed in Inquisition. And it's always fun getting to know the characters.

 

Also, if you like the Dragon Age games, you may also enjoy BioWare's other most popular game - Mass Effect. I also highly recommend them. I recommend these games to anyone, they're my fave. :-D 

[Solitaira]

Update: I just ordered the Mass Effect trilogy from Amazon, who had a sale of it for $19 US. With a $10 gift certificate I'd been hoarding, I got it for $9. Every now and then I get lucky

 

I've been all over Mass Effect on YouTube, and I think it's just what I'm looking for.

 

Thank you, everyone, for your kind and well-considered input!

[Tidus]

Gold Dragon,I favor a all around combat mage that can toss fireballs, ice, electricity and use  group heal and that's why Morrigan became my mage of choice.  I started that mage build with my  Red Mages in Final Fantasy 1. I'm probably the only one that used two fighters and two red mages.

[Aliceeverafter]

... not for the reasons you might think. I totally loved DA:I and, though I've played many MMOs and RPGs, I don't think I've ever been so immersed in a character. This time, she was an Elf Mage/Knight-Enchanter.

 

This is NOT a brag. I've got a neuro-muscular disease that ensures I'm a really bad player; so, I do everything in casual mode. Still, in this my 2nd play-through, I never had a party member die ... ever, and I did all the dragons and all the DLCs. And I did everything real time, never once used tactical camera. It was very gratifying to accomplish this, and probably contributes to my current state of bummed outedness.

 

Having squeezed every ounce of juice out of Inquisition (my character was almost level 28 when Trespasser ended), I'm not ready to do it all over again just yet -- maybe in a month.

 

So, what next? I've looked at youtubes of DA: Origins, but I'm not sure I want to do that clunky UI. Thoughts on this?

 

Can anyone recommend another RPG (aside from Elder Scrolls -- done them all) that is somewhat similar -- one that won't tax my limited abilities and that will really let me get into my character?

 

Any suggestions gratefully accepted

 

Thank you in advance.

So good to read you got so much out of DA:I

Definietly recommend Witcher 3.

I was also looking for something along similar lines and someone recommended it to me. I've been playing on easy and while controls are a bit fiddly at first, I can get by with basic moves. It's a great story, in which you can invest lots of time in the characters and the side quests and history. There's lots of spells and potions to learn and make, and a couple of LIs.

You can only play as Geralt who is a rather hunky bloke with a gravelly voice, a pony tail and a nice bum. He's easy on the eyes (oh yes ) but no customization of face etc.