I'm pretty hyped personally, but I hope they take the criticisms of DAI to heart so we don't end up with a 100 hours of fetch this, fetch that, wrapped around a 30 hour story with yet another lackluster ending. I'd be sorely disappointed if that occurs.
Because the words frame the choices
Organics and synthetics cannot coexist peacefully or "conflict" will result
Therefore, there are three choices:
Destroy: We have already had synthetics wiping out all advanced organics, so let's try it the other way for a while where organics wipe out all advanced synthetics
Control: One side totally dominates the other, turning the galaxy into a giant police state.
Synthesis: forcibly transform everyone into some space-magicky hybrid being that's neither organic nor synthetic.
All options play into the Catalyst's assertion. An assertion I do not believe in and wish to fight against. I don't wish to "just" stop this cycle. I want to stop all cycles. I want to free the galaxy from the Reapers and their sick philosophy. I want the galaxy and its inhabitants to choose their own path.
Too bad. You can't always get what you want. No you can't always get what you want.
Adults seem to grasp this concept that sometimes there are no perfect solutions why can't you?
Well the development time has been 4 years. IF the game turns out lacking or even worse, just sucks, there's just no excuse, beyond total incompetence, lack of caring and the breakdown of the development team. Especially if they have had that many opportunities in the past, after the endings fiasco and all, to LEARN and better themselves.
And if the worst comes to past, which i hope it doesnt, this will kill the franchise most likely. And it comes to be known as the series, which started out strong but spiralled gradually into nothingness due to gross mismanagement and egos(and EA buying them).
Then again it could turn out to be GOTY material and a great new breath of life into the series, to the new beginnings.
We'll see.
Technically five. Four years for building and one for polishing. But you're right there'll be no excuse. I know this game is gonna rock our world though. Heard it from the developers and even that shinobi guy. I believe em.Well the development time has been 4 years. IF the game turns out lacking or even worse, just sucks, there's just no excuse, beyond total incompetence, not caring at all and the breakdown of the development team. Especially if they have had that many opportunities in the past, after the endings fiasco and all, to LEARN and better themselves.
And this will kill the franchise most likely.
Then again it could turn out to be GOTY material.
We'll see.
4) It's sad that the freaking name of the protagonist being revealed was the height of MEA's E3 announcement.
I thought the height of the trailer/announcement was that Bioware really did make the asari look uglier than what they already looked like
All options play into the Catalyst's assertion. An assertion I do not believe in and wish to fight against. I don't wish to "just" stop this cycle. I want to stop all cycles. I want to free the galaxy from the Reapers and their sick philosophy. I want the galaxy and its inhabitants to choose their own path.
I do to. That's why I choose destroy. Shoot the tube.
You do mean more realistic? That's what happens as time passes on. Better graphics. So they have dimples. They just look more real. And Destroy? Poor EDI and the Geth.I thought the height of the trailer/announcement was that Bioware really did make the asari look uglier than what they already looked like
I do to. That's why I choose destroy. Shoot the tube.
You do mean more realistic? That's what happens as time passes on. Better graphics. So they have dimples.
No I mean they do look uglier. I don't care about the better graphics. They still look ugly
And Destroy? Poor EDI and the Geth.
Poor nothing. I don't care about them. I only care about stopping the reapers and I do that by shooting the tube
This. I frequent this forum and Mass Effect Reddit. The hype far outweighs the naysayers.I think most people here, on Reddit and Twitter are quite hyped. Don't see that much negativity. It's also fun to see a lot of first time players of the trilogy because of the hype.
Ahhhh ****.No I mean they do look uglier. I don't care about the better graphics. They still look ugly
Poor nothing. I don't care about them. I only care about stopping the reapers and I do that by shooting the tube
I guess the illusive man was right about one thing.
Complaining about such people doesn't make them wrong.Also, those that object to Andromeda are still mostly pissed off about the change in locale, I think. Here's the thing though - we predicted the move to Andromeda two years ago. We were right, not because we are clairvoyant but because it was an incredibly predictable move. They've had that long to come to terms with it, and some people haven't. Those people will probably never be pleased.
I'm a big fan of the original trilogy (including Mass Effect 3), but I just wasn't excited for Andromeda. Playing through Dragon Age: Inquisition for the first time right now, though, and it's given me new hope for BioWare and Andromeda. I personally don't doubt that Andromeda will deliver great stories, graphics, and gameplay.
I'm more concerned with how Andromeda's going to fit with the existing Mass Effect lore - the reason that it was made a Mass Effect game in the first place. DA Inquisition ties a bunch of threads together from previous games (I like DA2 a lot better because of it), but Mass Effect's games already tell a self-contained story. Until I see WHY Andromeda is a part of the Mass Effect universe (and a part that we never heard of on Shepard's journey), Andromeda looks a bit like a cash-in on the name / license. So I'm cautiously optimistic, but ready to turn on BioWare at a moment's notice if Andromeda smells like a copy-and-paste sell-out.
I could care less about shep knowing. Maybe Shepard was dead when we leave. So a few ships with volunteers are leaving for Andromeda to explore and establish colonies. It's exactly like the pilgrims coming to America only Andromeda will probably have far less conquering.I'm a big fan of the original trilogy (including Mass Effect 3), but I'm just not excited for Andromeda. Playing through Dragon Age: Inquisition for the first time right now, though, and it's given me new hope for BioWare and Andromeda. I personally don't doubt that Andromeda will deliver great stories, graphics, and gameplay.
I'm more concerned with how Andromeda's going to fit with the existing Mass Effect lore - the reason that it was made a Mass Effect game in the first place. DA Inquisition ties a bunch of threads together from previous games (I like DA2 a lot better because of it), but Mass Effect's games already tell a self-contained story. Until I see WHY Andromeda is a part of the Mass Effect universe (and a part that we never heard of on Shepard's journey), Andromeda looks a bit like a cash-in on the name / license. So I'm cautiously optimistic, but ready to turn on BioWare at a moment's notice if Andromeda smells like a copy-and-paste sell-out.
I imagine there are a lot of reasons. Some are more emotion based, others on more concrete concerns. There are people that are still upset about ME3's ending, for example, while others note that the original DA and ME writers/creators are gone, and wonder what things will be like. The delays have some worried, others dislike the writing direction the DA team went with Inquisition, and project it onto the ME series, regardless of whether they should. Many reasons, many lack of reasons, too many to list.
None of them are really right, or wrong, and I think, in the end, most people just want Andromeda to be a great game. I don't really know anyone that goes into a new game hoping it will be terrible and frustrating. I'd like to think the concern over Andromeda that some voice is all about how badly the people involved want this to be a great new experience.
As for faith, I don't really know what you think faith has to do with this situation. Faith isn't something you should have in a game or developer. Hopes, concerns, expectations, worries, all sorts of things, sure, but faith? Having faith doesn't make a game good anymore than it would make it bad, and the same goes for developers, having faith in their goodness or lack thereof is rather silly. I don't know about anyone else here, but I give compliments when they're earned, and in no other situation.
It does seem, from the outside looking in, and through no other means, that Bioware are having a bit of trouble getting ME:A out. That's not immediately a bad thing, anymore than it is a good thing, with any luck whatever challenges ME:A represents to the team will result in them rising to the occasion, knocking it out of the park.
I think that's something we'd all like to see, but it's not a given. They either will or the won't. That's a story only time will tell.
The hint is in the title. The only reason the game is named such is because of those ME3 hiccups you mentioned. Without any connection to the original trilogy, Andromeda will feel very fan-fictiony and trite. Not to mention that the premise is extremely flimsy, and doesn't mesh well with the lore of the original trilogy, which made it very clear extragalactic journeys are beyond the technological capacity of the modern races.This is something i've noticed yet I don't necessarily know why.
The Mass Effect trilogy has been one of the more consistent trilogies in terms of quality (outside of ME3s hiccups) around in recent years yet for some reason the fanbase seems to have almost zero hope for Andromeda.
I am concerned about Mass Effect not just because of it's ending, but because of the direction BioWARE's writing has taken as of late. They've decided to fritter away valuable real estate on pointless identity politics and aren't focusing on building their worlds.
Personally, I have a lot of faith in Andromeda. I've liked all the Bioware games I've played and liked the Mass Effect trilogy quite a bit. Like most people, I had problems with the ending for ME3, but that didn't ruin my enjoyment of the game or the franchise. Maybe Andromeda won't be perfect, but I think it'll at least be worth playing. I would be genuinely surprised if I hated it.
This is the attitude we need around here.Personally, I have a lot of faith in Andromeda. I've liked all the Bioware games I've played and liked the Mass Effect trilogy quite a bit. Like most people, I had problems with the ending for ME3, but that didn't ruin my enjoyment of the game or the franchise. Maybe Andromeda won't be perfect, but I think it'll at least be worth playing. I would be genuinely surprised if I hated it.
2017 is far off, but I am excited about ME:A. At the same time I can honestly say that I am on the fence because of what in my opinion were 2 out of 3 terrible ME3 endings. Destroy being the most logical in my humble opinion; not opening old wounds. One of the things I hope Bioware steers clear of is combining PvP with successful outcomes in PvE. If there is to be PvP and I'm sure if EA has anything to do with it, there will be. Keep PvP completely separate from PvE gameplay, unless there are rewards (armor, weapons, etc) that can be used in PvE gameplay. Either way I'm confident based on the reactions that Bioware received from ME3 that they will avoid anything related to "artist integrity" where necessary and give us the great choice driven story line that pulled many of us in.
Oh and I would absolutely appreciate more information or trailers highlighting the game mechanics.
There is a lot of intervening and mandatory technological developments that must happen before they are able to carry out this action, but the story just skips it for convenience, absolutely destroying immersion and weakening the logical integrity of the universe as a whole.
The kinds of people that comment most often on forums like these are hypersensitive drama queens.
The kinds of people that comment most often on forums like these are hypersensitive drama queens.
Im not! 
This is something i've noticed yet I don't necessarily know why.
The Mass Effect trilogy has been one of the more consistent trilogies in terms of quality (outside of ME3s hiccups) around in recent years yet for some reason the fanbase seems to have almost zero hope for Andromeda.
Franchises like Dark Souls, Final Fantasy, Witcher, Deus Ex still manage to conjure up hype yet they are way less consistent than the Mass Effect trilogy, what gives?
Is it modern Bioware or the game series itself? I would understand fears with Modern Bioware but not the game series itself, Mass Effect 1, 2 and 3 are all legitimately fantastic games.
It's sad, I know - but there are a lot of good reasons to not be hyped (or give the game that much of a chance!) because we've been screwed over 3 times in the last years (I don't think I exagerate: I think Dragon Age 2 didn't live up to the hype/the expectations (sure: partly EA's fault with their crappy deadline politics - but they are beholden to their investors, so what do you expect...I mean the investors are probably not gamers (or at least not many of them are), so they rather sell a game that's not finished if they keep the deadline, while most players would probably rather have a delay (even if it's a year or more!) than an unfinished game!), neither did ME3 (even if you DISCOUNT THE ENDING(S)...it was linear (You don't have a choice how you go about gathering allies, nope: You've got to follow a predetermined order!), it discounted/ruined player choice, it had bad auto-talk ("We fight or we die!" - Shepard? Shut up, ok?) and cutscenes (like no "shoot Kai Leng" interrupt) etc.) and even Dragon Age: Inquisition wasn't that great (weak main enemy, real ending is DLC (! - Not to mention that that DLC mocks player choice, too as you haven't got any meaningful choices again!), there's tons of filler and fetch-quests (like a damned single-player MMO) etc. - it's got its moments, sure, but over all? It's not up to what I and many other expect from Bioware (damned, those guys were gods in the industry who told great stories! Now? They make "Hollywood Blockbusters" like anybody else and try to use graphics to hide that fact)
Not to mention that other gaming companies have screwed over their fans in the last years, too (Fallout 4 anybody? - Damned, that's not a Fallout! That's a shooter in the world/universe of a Fallout, but not genuine Fallout! Even Fallout 3 is better than THIS (not to mention New Vegas or 1 and 2!))
I really hope they make a truly great game again with ME:A (I mean it sounds like I am bashing Bioware, but I am not (ok: Except for their Mass Effect 3 blunder...I mean their marketing did LIE to the fans and that ENDING...damned!)! DA:I while not great did some things right and I'd hope they take these and the best of Mass Effect 1 and 2 (and even 3 - the gameplay...if they discard everything else it would be better, still the gameplay was fluid, ME2 is clunky by comparison!) and even of Dragon Age and Knights of the Old Republic and FINALLY: Make all that into a GREAT GAME!)
Sadly I am not convinced yet (if they really had guts they'd admit that ME3 was a blunder and make a new one first (!) - we can go to Andromeda later, because a new Galaxy really sounds FUN! Still, I am hoping for the best and if it's a good game, then I'll buy it!)
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This is something i've noticed yet I don't necessarily know why.
The Mass Effect trilogy has been one of the more consistent trilogies in terms of quality (outside of ME3s hiccups) around in recent years yet for some reason the fanbase seems to have almost zero hope for Andromeda.
Franchises like Dark Souls, Final Fantasy, Witcher, Deus Ex still manage to conjure up hype yet they are way less consistent than the Mass Effect trilogy, what gives?
Is it modern Bioware or the game series itself? I would understand fears with Modern Bioware but not the game series itself, Mass Effect 1, 2 and 3 are all legitimately fantastic games.
Well, for one, I think you're mistaking the fact that complainers are the loudest demographic for their being an actual majority, or even a significant minority. Plenty of people have pointed that out already.
There's also that ME being "one of the more consistent trilogies in terms of quality" is a rather subjective statement. Plenty of people believe, for example, that ME3 was a steaming pile of garbage that they will never, ever, ever, EVER forgive or even let go. I imagine those people are not very excited about MEA, except maybe about bashing it all the way to release and beyond.
Myself, I'm inclined to think the series peaked early (ME1) and experienced a steep drop in quality immediately afterwards. ME2 and ME3 were okay games, and in many ways they improve on certain aspects of the series. But compared to the ambition exhibited in the first game, the latter ones were rather mediocre. As such, the best I can do is hope that when they say MEA is meant to be the spiritual successor of ME1 and everything ME1 was supposed to be, they aren't just blowing hot air.
From what I have seen there is caution rather than "little faith" in Andromeda. We all want MEA to be 10/10, hell just to be amazing but BW had done some stupid/wrong/unnecessary stuff (take your pick) recently so here we are. Also some people are salty from the ending still.
I don't frequent this forum much so I have no idea how people feel about it here. But I know that Biofan hopes for the best while the guy* with <<<<<<<>>>>>>> expects the worst.
*If your read this - sorry I don't remember your name.
It is the equivalent of setting a story in ancient Rome and having them build a rocket and fly to the moon. There is a lot of intervening and mandatory technological developments that must happen before they are able to carry out this action, but the story just skips it for convenience, absolutely destroying immersion and weakening the logical integrity of the universe as a whole. The same applies to ME:A and their super-convenient Arks, based on technology that didn't exist in the original trilogy.
Now, if the game was set several centuries AFTER ME3, you'd have an argument for the Arks. But since it's set BEFORE ME3, that argument goes right out the window.
The game IS set several centuries after ME3. 300 years afterwards, in fact.
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