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[AlanC9]

600, I believe -- but all of that was spent in stasis.

[GreyLycanTrope]

On a personal level I'm basically just done with the series and no amount of trailers seems to help hype me up in anyway. Just going to keep hoping for Jade Empire 2 somewhere down the line.

[Milan92]

- ME 3 sucked. People tend to lose interest when a previous game sucked.

 

- Mac Walters is apperantly the lead writer again. The mere idea gives me the creeps.

 

- Bioware lost most of its touch.

[Hadeedak]

Because crazy negative and crazy positive tends to stick in your mind. Especially crazy negative.

 

And the people who expect it to be quite good, an enjoyable use of time and money, and generally okay, but certainly not "THE ONE GAME TO RULE THEM ALL, MADE OF SOLID GOLD QUALITY" are hard to argue with, so that's just no fun.

 

Which is about where I am. I haven't bumped into a Bioware game I don't like yet. I expect to derive much amusement from MEA, repeat several quotable jokes in my day to day, and have a grand old time with it. But I'm not expecting a revelation here.

[Felya87]

For me, I still haven't see something interesting about the game. I'm not truly negative. I'm just... indifferent. Nothing have really been said, so with those little, few, vague informations I'can't get exited. I don't even know if my preferred races (Turian and Quarian) are in the game. I don't know how much roleplay there will be.

 

For now, I just know that we play human. Not exactly happy about it, since I would have really liked to play as something different, to have even more a disconnection with Shepard and the horrible endings (big problem for me, and even if everyting about Andromeda was interesting for me, I would still have the bad memory of how that horror that was the end of the past trilogy ruined my enjoyment of the past games to stop any hype), plus, I don't like the "human centric" that seem to be the focal point. One of the things I liked in the old trilogy were the various races and the sense of intergalactic community that was going to form itself while playng. I see the "human centric" viewpoint as a regression in comparison to the old trilogy. Plus, the milky way had still so much to explore, that I have no really interest in a new galaxy.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

I assume that with this, like most things, it comes down to the mistaken perception that this forum somehow accurately represents the audience that will purchase the game, which it doesn't.

 

I'm quite sure that the vast majority of the people who will ultimately end up buying the game honestly don't care. I'm sure they have individual hopes and expectations, but I doubt most of them attach the kind of seriousness or strong emotional response that many of the posts about ME:A bely.

 

I'll give you a quick example of how the perception is often very different then the reality:

 

I've never started a thread about how mad I am about Mass Effect. I have no issue with acknowledging how bad the ending was, but I was only emotionally pissed off about it for a few days. I don't have any particular issue with DA:I other than how poorly the villain played out as a driving force in the story. I did make a thread about that, but I don't think it came across as angry, since I wasn't. But I very seriously doubt I'll buy any more Dragon Age games, because I've concluded that I'm not interested in the direction they've decided to take them. I think I'll probably buy ME:A, but it won't be until the price has come down, and I've heard some consistent reviews I trust enough to pay the current price for it.

 

On the other hand, many (if not the vast majority) of the people who most passionately complain about ME:A and their low expectations for it are ultimately going to buy it on release, or very shortly thereafter (if for no other reason than to justify their complaints.)

 

 

 

 

Why do I post serious answers in this forum? O.o I really should know better by now...

[SKAR]

- ME 3 sucked. People tend to lose interest when a previous game sucked.

- Mac Walters is apperantly the lead writer again. The mere idea gives me the creeps.

- Bioware lost most of its touch.

That's your opinion.

[Hadeedak]

People have all sorts of opinions.

 

It's a free internet, and they can have opinions that aren't the same as mine. As long as I'm allowed to voice my (possibly dissenting) opinion and there's some mutual respect, it's all good.

 

If you start getting vindictive about people being ​wrong​ on the internet, you'll just give yourself an ulcer. There's probably even someone out there who believes Pinnacle Station was the best Mass Effect DLC, and that person has a right to their opinion. As misguided as it is! -fistshake-

[Spectr61]

- ME 3 sucked. People tend to lose interest when a previous game sucked.
 
- Mac Walters is apperantly the lead writer again. The mere idea gives me the creeps.
 
- Bioware lost most of its touch.

No,

Mac is the overall grand poobah for Andromeda, the lead development director. That should give you even more of the creeps.

[SKAR]

No,

Mac is the overall grand poobah for Andromeda, the lead development director. That should give you even more of the creeps.

If he's the one in charge of the endings then I have no fear. They learned their lesson I'm sure and he did good work before the endings.

[Spectr61]

If he's the one in charge of the endings then I have no fear. They learned their lesson I'm sure and he did good work before the endings.

Look at the writing credits for the trilogy;


https://forum.biowar...fect-character/

While there was some previous good work, note who wrote The Catalyst - Mac Walters/Casey Hudson.

Also, some of my favorite writing, in 1 & 2 at least, was by Chris L'Etoile. (Thane, Legion, Edi, Tali)

No coincidence to me that after he left, things like the endings fiasco ensued.

[SKAR]

Look at the writing credits for the trilogy;


https://forum.biowar...fect-character/

While there was some previous good work, note who wrote The Catalyst - Mac Walters/Casey Hudson.

Also, some of my favorite writing, in 1 & 2 at least, was by Chris L'Etoile. (Thane, Legion, Edi, Tali)

No coincidence to me that after he left, things like the endings fiasco ensued.

You have a point but they are all at fault. Not just him. The whole team apparently approved of it and they weren't planning on continuing. It's because of us that we're getting another game. I think Andromeda will be fine. IF not, then there goes his job. He better seek asylum in some other country cause we'll kill him.

[Giantdeathrobot]

The hint is in the title. The only reason the game is named such is because of those ME3 hiccups you mentioned. Without any connection to the original trilogy, Andromeda will feel very fan-fictiony and trite. Not to mention that the premise is extremely flimsy, and doesn't mesh well with the lore of the original trilogy, which made it very clear extragalactic journeys are beyond the technological capacity of the modern races.
 
It is the equivalent of setting a story in ancient Rome and having them build a rocket and fly to the moon. There is a lot of intervening and mandatory technological developments that must happen before they are able to carry out this action, but the story just skips it for convenience, absolutely destroying immersion and weakening the logical integrity of the universe as a whole. The same applies to ME:A and their super-convenient Arks, based on technology that didn't exist in the original trilogy.

Now, if the game was set several centuries AFTER ME3, you'd have an argument for the Arks. But since it's set BEFORE ME3, that argument goes right out the window.

 

...No? All the required technology exists in-universe. Stasis pods are a thing, huge ships are a thing, travel in dark space is possible especially if Reaper drive cores are reverse-engineered, the Citadel and other stations have apparently resolved the discharge problem somehow, and there aren't that many technological hurdles after that, only practical ones such as finding explorers or the cost of the enterprise.

 

It's more akin to Romans ending up in India or China. Unlikely? Yes. Impossible given the setting's technology? No.

 

Plus, let's at least see how Bioware explains it before condemning the very premise, shall we?

[Milan92]

You have a point but they are all at fault. Not just him. The whole team apparently approved of it and they weren't planning on continuing. It's because of us that we're getting another game. I think Andromeda will be fine. IF not, then there goes his job. He better seek asylum in some other country cause we'll kill him.

 

Actually if I remember correctly, Walters and Hudson completely shut the team off when it came to the endings.

 

They were affraid they wouldn't agree with their artistic integrity.

[SKAR]

Actually if I remember correctly, Walters and Hudson completely shut the team off when it came to the endings.

They were affraid they wouldn't agree with their artistic integrity.

Those mother*******. Those dumb@$$3$!!!!!!! That's why the endings were crap. So its just those two. Hmmm. You need to get a consensus. They should've had a vote. It should've been a group thing. Thanks to those jack offs they screwed the pooch. Doesn't really matter now cause what's done is done but had I known back then I would've went berserk!!!! That's just sad. How much you want to bet the whole team would've objected and changed the endings?

[Steelcan]

I have no faith in the writers to deliver a sensible and satisfying narrative, I'm sure the gameplay and character writing will be fine

[Seboist]

I have no faith in the writers to deliver a sensible and satisfying narrative, I'm sure the gameplay and character writing will be fine

Would be a fool to expect otherwise at this point.

[iM3GTR]

You have a point but they are all at fault. Not just him. The whole team apparently approved of it and they weren't planning on continuing. It's because of us that we're getting another game. I think Andromeda will be fine. IF not, then there goes his job. He better seek asylum in some other country cause we'll kill him.

He wouldn't lose his job. Bioware would just say Andromeda was art and all the players who didn't like it are too stupid to understand.

[Armass81]

The game IS set several centuries after ME3. 300 years afterwards, in fact.

Yes, after they arrive in Andromeda cause the trip took that long.

 

When they leave its pre ME3.

[Whitering]

I really love ME3, not the last 5ish minutes, but I knew the end would be silly with the sheer number of reapers they had, why not just make the first cycle only 5 million years ago or something and let you win conventionally, without a magic space ******, if you get everyone on the same page? Well, nope, they had to have thousands of Reapers, when the first game had one, the second game had half of a one and the collectors, awesome games with more than enough danger around every corner. Why they had to step that up to a thousand times as much...

 

Will I pre order this? Likely, unless Mike Laidlaw takes over as project director, did he?

[LiechockiRJ]

Actually if I remember correctly, Walters and Hudson completely shut the team off when it came to the endings.

 

They were affraid they wouldn't agree with their artistic integrity.

 

I remember reading something about this somewhere. Totally selfish that attitude.

 

Anyway, I´m hyped for the "right" and "wrong" motives

 

right:

 

- brandy new protagonist/location/history etc

- apparently they are doing a back 2 basics to what was ME1

 

 

wrong:

 

- I just love Sci Fi. And unfortunately ME has no competitors in the market. My only choice is play this game. Dragon Age (medieval fantasy) in other hand I have others options

[PunchFaceReporter]

https://m.youtube.co...h?v=6Cs3Pvmmv0E

[SKAR]

I have no faith in the writers to deliver a sensible and satisfying narrative, I'm sure the gameplay and character writing will be fine

Can't wait to see em prove you wrong buddy.

[SKAR]

He wouldn't lose his job. Bioware would just say Andromeda was art and all the players who didn't like it are too stupid to understand.

**** em. There would be RIOTS!!!!!! I have faith that they won't be making the same mistake. They better know what they're doing and not right themed into a corner again. And when doing an ending or Endings, get the approval of EVERYONE!!!!!!

[Schmonozov]

I have barely heard anyone even talk about mass effect andromeda, or for that matter anything involving bioware for that matter in a couple of years now. Seems like competitors like CDPR  and others generate more hype to me. All i've heard generally is just some troubling things about the people they've got on board working on the game.