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[D.Shepard]

Hello fellow Mass Effect fans and N7 Operatives,

 

I'd need your help regarding the N7 Slayer Vanguard.

 

I'm back to Mass Effect 3 after a quite long break and while I'm still familiar with many of the characters, for some I really need some tip for Gold, and eventually Platinum, matches.

 

The N7 Slayer is one of them.

 

Is the Biotic Slash, then charge and melee when appropriate still considered the best tactic for the class?

 

Which weapon do you suggest? If the above is still the "best tactic" I guess a lightweight weapon like an Acolyte the best choice since most of the damage is going to come from powers and melee. The Acolyte can be also equipped with mods to increase power and melee damage, for example.

 

What about the gear and consumables?

 

Thank You very much for your assistance

[Darth Volus]

http://kalence.weebl...53N53364!F03BGG

 

I use it like this, although I know Talon is better. 

 

Biotic Slash is annoying and not very effective (especially on bigger maps) 

 

Best strategy - Charge - Phase Disruptor - Mop up with shotgun

 

Melee is only useful in front of a Cerberus Turret. 

[D.Shepard]

http://kalence.weebl...53N53364!F03BGG

 

I use it like this, although I know Talon is better. 

 

Biotic Slash is annoying and not very effective (especially on bigger maps) 

 

Best strategy - Charge - Phase Disruptor - Mop up with shotgun

 

Melee is only useful in front of a Cerberus Turret. 

 

Thank You

I'm back after a three years break and I'm trying to learn the up-to-date tactics for several classes. 

With some like Turian Ghost I'm still very familiar with others not so much

 

I never played the Slayer a lot in the past. 

Do you think the class is a solid choice for Gold/Platinum or do you suggest to choose another class?

[Darth Volus]

Thank You

I'm back after a three years break and I'm trying to learn the up-to-date tactics for several classes. 

With some like Turian Ghost I'm still very familiar with others not so much

 

I never played the Slayer a lot in the past. 

Do you think the class is a solid choice for Gold/Platinum or do you suggest to choose another class?

 

Slayer on Gold is cake walk. On Platinum it's more work, because there are lot of bullet sponge bosses on Platinum and Slayer is not too great against them, but definitely viable. 

 

Just be sure to host, otherwise the kit is nearly unplayable (Phase Disruptor is very lag sensitive) 

[MaxCrushmore]

http://kalence.weebl...24N52364!GF3BEG

 

This build crushes Gold.

 

Note, for an optimal PD build, you always have to host. PD was buffed in that they removed the amount of barrier it drained per shot.

 

Shoot enemy with weapon, then either charge or PD for combo detonation. Repeat

 

Disruptor rounds also work well, and if you really want to play a risk / reward style then replace the cyclonic mod with a power amp

[JGDD]

I think mine is the same as Binary Helix's. The only exception is weapon choice. My Slayer is the Scorpion King. It may not be the best against the bosses, but it is undeniably one of the funnest ways to play him.

[Deerber]

I'm going to go ahead and post a video showcasing how to use him, since builds don't really mean much by themselves.

 

This is still pretty much the gold standard in how to play the Slayer:

 

[Arkhne]

Ignore the fruit cakes. Biotic Slash is a perfectly viable power. They just prefer to have build him as a novaguard so they can novaguard whilst saying they don't novaguard.

 

Biotic Slash and Electric Slash are both very good powers that get undeserved hate on the BSN. They both do really good damage (Especially Electric Slash, which is amazing at stripping shields from groups), and detonate multiple combos in a single cast.

 

If they're complaining about screen shake, it's an issue inherrent in half the abilities and even a sizeable number of guns in the game, and the problem is with the idiot who decided screen shake was a good idea, not the powers.

 

This is my build:

http://kalence.weebl...33N52363!G00.GG

 

ALL of his powers have a time and place. There are plenty of times when exposing yourself to enemy fire, or damaging your shields is not the right decision to make, and in those situations, Biotic Slash is a good choice. PD is great for on-demand tech detonations (Say, if you have a Snap Freezer or Flamer on your team), Biotic Slash can also be used as a Biotic Detonator for sync-killers. Or, you can play like ErzPaladin and Biotic Charge the first Banshee of every wave and get carried.

[ClydeInTheShell]

I'm going to go ahead and post a video showcasing how to use him, since builds don't really mean much by themselves.

 

This is still pretty much the gold standard in how to play the Slayer:

 

My first thought was Slaying Cerberus when I saw this thread. 

Ignore the fruit cakes. Biotic Slash is a perfectly viable power. They just prefer to have build him as a novaguard so they can novaguard whilst saying they don't novaguard.

 

Biotic Slash and Electric Slash are both very good powers that get undeserved hate on the BSN. They both do really good damage (Especially Electric Slash, which is amazing at stripping shields from groups), and detonate multiple combos in a single cast.

 

If they're complaining about screen shake, it's an issue inherrent in half the abilities and even a sizeable number of guns in the game, and the problem is with the idiot who decided screen shake was a good idea, not the powers.

 

This is my build:

http://kalence.weebl...33N52363!G00.GG

 

ALL of his powers have a time and place. There are plenty of times when exposing yourself to enemy fire, or damaging your shields is not the right decision to make, and in those situations, Biotic Slash is a good choice. PD is great for on-demand tech detonations (Say, if you have a Snap Freezer or Flamer on your team), Biotic Slash can also be used as a Biotic Detonator for sync-killers. Or, you can play like ErzPaladin and Biotic Charge the first Banshee of every wave and get carried.

Biotic & Electric Slash get justified hate because people stand behind walls for 11 waves spamming it for entire matches. 

 

I don't use the Slayer much, but when I do I skip Biotic Slash. 

[Darth Volus]

Ignore the fruit cakes. Biotic Slash is a perfectly viable power. They just prefer to have build him as a novaguard so they can novaguard whilst saying they don't novaguard.

 

Biotic Slash and Electric Slash are both very good powers that get undeserved hate on the BSN. They both do really good damage (Especially Electric Slash, which is amazing at stripping shields from groups), and detonate multiple combos in a single cast.

 

If they're complaining about screen shake, it's an issue inherrent in half the abilities and even a sizeable number of guns in the game, and the problem is with the idiot who decided screen shake was a good idea, not the powers.

 

This is my build:

http://kalence.weebl...33N52363!G00.GG

 

ALL of his powers have a time and place. There are plenty of times when exposing yourself to enemy fire, or damaging your shields is not the right decision to make, and in those situations, Biotic Slash is a good choice. PD is great for on-demand tech detonations (Say, if you have a Snap Freezer or Flamer on your team), Biotic Slash can also be used as a Biotic Detonator for sync-killers. Or, you can play like ErzPaladin and Biotic Charge the first Banshee of every wave and get carried.

 

Focuses on power - doesn't take power damage evos 

[DarkOrgasm]

you build the Slayer with 6a in BC hes a constant Biotic Charge King of Chaos creating tech bursts, fire explosions and biotic explosions all over the map no matter what other kits he plays with

 

Give him a charge up weapon like the Scorpion or Venom, and as you charge everything explodes in ragdoll perfection and humor, with the follow up of PD

 

if you skip anything its slash only need 3 ranks there for when charging is too dangerous. otherwise Slayer is about the best vanguard in the game and you are tanking almost everything and creating such chaos of the Bosses, they stop shooting all your team mates, this is the true value of the Slayer with his teleport to get out of trouble

 

Obviously best On Host

[Arkhne]

My first thought was Slaying Cerberus when I saw this thread. 

Biotic & Electric Slash get justified hate because people stand behind walls for 11 waves spamming it for entire matches. 

 

I don't use the Slayer much, but when I do I skip Biotic Slash. 

 

That's not "justified hate", that's BSN Elitism, one I completely disagree with.

I'd rather a PUG who spams slashes and stays alive, then one who dies all the time, or Shadow Strikes out of the hack areas (if they bother to show up at all, close range kits don't need to do objectives).

[Arktinen]

I don't use him much, but I've liked the electric slash as a detonation combo with the Paladin, easy killings and fast games. Nothing better than hearing the enemy explode and nice synergy. I wouldn't take him to Platinum, though (like many other kits),but that's for personal preferences. 

 

I also don't mind standing behind a wall, if it keeps me safe as the team medic.   Hell, sometimes I even prefer that to running around and staying out in the open.

People will whine about using, for example, the snap freeze just as much as those slashes. I'm sure there is something to gripe about each and every character, can't please everyone.  Players should play whatever kit they please - whether it is for challenge purposes or just plain having fun and hearing everything shatter to pieces. 

[ClydeInTheShell]

That's not "justified hate", that's BSN Elitism, one I completely disagree with.

I'd rather a PUG who spams slashes and stays alive, then one who dies all the time, or Shadow Strikes out of the hack areas (if they bother to show up at all, close range kits don't need to do objectives).

First, why can't there be something in the middle? Someone who plays the class using all 3 powers without having to spam one the entire match, but also plays alongside the team? Last I checked, 99% of the players who post on this forum do that and are probably the quickest to help on objective waves by doing the objectives, not scorewh0ring. 

 

Second, BSN elitism? Why, because I dislike seeing a player misuse a character who has great offensive potential because they're playing a difficulty level they have no business in, and won't stay in bronze or silver to learn the game proper? Fine, I'll take that label. Maybe they think that's fun, spamming Slash through the walls every 4 seconds, but I don't see how that's enjoyable, and it's not nearly as effective on Gold or Platinum without a proper build. 

 

I don't expect everyone to be able to Slayer like say, Moby, Deerber or d_nought, but spamming Slash the whole match is cheeks. Call it what you will. 

 

And don't take my rant personal, Arkhne, you know I love you

[Alina Li]

Charging, Phasering and then shooting like they said is most effective but I like to add a little to that by flailing and dying repeatedly. My way isn't for everyone.

[Jugger nuggss]

How to Slayer 101:

[Shinobu]

The tip I found that suited my play style was to take Falcon with Incendiary ammo. Shoot, PD, shoot, PD, shoot, PD, when out of shields, charge what remains and either PD or melee. I take Biotic slash mostly for detonating teammate's biotic combos (e.g., during hacks) but otherwise don't use it much.

A few fire explosions weakens a spawn nicely, so charging in is less risky. That helped my survivability quite a bit.

[JGDD]

Biotic Slash is really great for missing that last swarmer and then watching the little monster take you down.

[HamleticTortoise]

The most important tip is to play on host The next most important thing IMO is to pick efficient blast for the 5th evolution of phase disruptor. Third, learn to love that dodge    This is a kit that really rewards situational awareness: where the best cover is, where can I charge to get out of trouble, where that pesky phantom that needs staggering is, how many dodges to cover...

 

Use a priming ammo if in a team of soldiers; if you end in a team with good primers, enjoy detonating everything.

 

I spec three ranks in biotic slash, and it is a situationally useful power. I think it suffers in that in most situations charge-PD cycles will be a more effective strategy. It also, IMO, suffers in that its niche as biotic wall-hacking power with a long-ish windup is better filled by smash, which tends to do more damage, has a shorter windup, and synergizes better with the overall strategy deployable by both smashbros.

If I were to regularly deploy the Slayer in a team full of biotic primers, going six ranks into biotic slash would make sense, but to me the power damage to charge and esp PD gained from the passives outweights the utility of going past 3 ranks in biotic slash.

[The_Nightman_Cometh]

               This is my signature build:   http://kalence.weebl...24N52364!003BGG

 

 

                                           MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THIS CHARACTER:  YOU NEED TO BE THE HOST

 

 

 

 

people will tell you to use a weapon to take out armor..but you really dont need one since phase disruptor will take care of it....all of it. This build is meant to maximize his powers..so you wont really be firing your gun...unless its to strip shields or set up a fire explosion....  I use cyclonics to give him some extra muscle....I love banging heads with brutes and scions....people will advise you to use a power amp instead...its really not necessary..there is no noticeable difference in damage output using one or the other..trust me..I have tried every possible build for this character that is possible ( he is my favorite character) ..the only difference I saw was he was way more squishier... as far as slash goes...just use it once in awhile to knock out a few mooks that happen to be standing next to each other....I forget to use it since I am moving so fast just acolyting - charging - phase disruptoring everything.  My advice...give this build a shot...for some really fun testing...set it to either Glacier / Reapers ...or Glacier / Cerberus  ....this build turns cerberus  ( phantoms / dragoons )  into a joke.. and remember..the most effective use of phase disruptor is to aim at your targets feet... 

 

 

 

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[LoonySpectre]

Talon with Ammo Capacity, Cyclonic modulator, Incendiary ammo. Charge, then quickly use Phase Disintegrator several times, all the while holding the fire button.

[Alfonsedode]

Melee build is not very effective, but it s the most fun. Teleporting through a wall to behead mooks never gets old.
That would mean shotgun for the omniblade, and mostly wraith to pack puch for a lightweight.
Then PD to stagger charge and melee + shotgun if needed (if u know its needed, use the hotgun first, then the melee)
U can still add disruptor for TB with the first ¨PD

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

...use the hotgun first,....

Best advice of the week

[Deerber]

My first thought was Slaying Cerberus when I saw this thread.

Thanks my friend, you make me feel proud

However, the way I play there has been outdone. Now the way Nought showed is actually the most effective. I've changed my playstyle accordingly myself a loooong time ago

[D Wrecks]

If they're complaining about screen shake, it's an issue inherrent in half the abilities and even a sizeable number of guns in the game, and the problem is with the idiot who decided screen shake was a good idea, not the powers.

He's a goddamn fool and should be eaten.