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[Ed VilleLin]

The first time I talked to Ralidor (after he moved back into the keep), he told me he had taken the Master's Sword. I said farewell because I didn't want to fight him at that time. When I came back to him ready to fight, I talked back to him, and the only option I have to pick is farewell. I need to fight him to get the sword and I no longer have that option. Has this happened to anybody else? Thanks.

[Ed VilleLin]

Well, I uninstalled and re-installed the game, but it does the same thing. It's frustrating how backing out of one conversation can mess up the whole game. I had a problem with Bishop earlier in the game under the same circumstances. He was gonna take me somewhere (can't remember where at this time), but I wasn't ready to go, so I left, but when I came back, he wouldn't give me the same options as before. I had to find a work-around for that online. Now, I have searched and searched for a work-around with this Ralidor situation, but can't find anything on it. I'm about to start on something else because it sucks having to sit around and not being able to go any further because I can't figure out the debugmode code lol.

[BoardGuest808888l]

Never happened to me. But that particular quest has several ways to complete, you don't have to have the master's sword to do it. Perhaps you can do it another way ?

[Ed VilleLin]

Do you know a way beyond the door that has the statue in it? It says I have to have the staff, shield, and sword to open it. It would be GREAT if I could find another way. I haven't been able to move on for a couple of days lol.

[BoardGuest808888l]

You can try to 'convince' Ribsmasher to break the door for you,

or if you have high enough strength, try to force open the door (need high strength),

Or simply bite the bullet and try to open it repeatedly. You'll be zapped over and over, but eventually it will open.

[Ed VilleLin]

I'm gonna try those and let you know how it went! Thanks so much for the ideas!

[Axe_Edge]

Gamebanshee shows four ways to open the door:
http://www.gamebansh...erguardkeep.php

Spoiler

Gambanshee;

12 - The Master's Door
This is a puzzle door, and there are a few ways to get through it:
Just keep trying to open the door. Each attempt will damage you, but on the fifth try the door will open.
If Ribsmasher (#7) survived, then after you've attempted to go through the door once, he'll show up and offer to smash down the door for you. If you let him go through with it, then he'll die but the door will open (however, Ribsmasher won't leave any remains behind, so you won't be able to get his Gloves of the Long Death +3 this way).
If you have The Master's Shield (#8), The Master's Sword (#4), and The Master's Scepter (#11), then the door will recognize you as the Master, and it will let you pass.
If you killed Uthanck for Ghellu (#11), then Ghellu will send goblins at the door until it opens.

Tip: if you haven't finished the Temple of Four Seasons, make sure you make a SEPARATE save BEFORE entering each room. There is a game breaking problem that rears it's head sometimes in one of the rooms, which requires a replay. I experience the problem about 15% of the time.

[Ed VilleLin]

Thanks, Axe_Edge. I have already done every statue except the one where Ralidor is and then the one where you get teleported. From here on out, I'm gonna make a separate save before I talk to anybody because it seems like if they give me options and I pass on them so I can come back later, they never give me those options again. All I'm able to say is farewell. It sucks because I wanted to fight the bugbears lol.

[Ed VilleLin]

*Spoiler* (just for anybody randomly reading) Ribsmasher is dead. Fortunately for me, it will open after 5 tries, so that should get me back to movin' along. I really appreciate the help!

[GCoyote]

Gamebanshee shows four ways to open the door:
http://www.gamebansh...erguardkeep.php

Spoiler

Gambanshee;

12 - The Master's Door
This is a puzzle door, and there are a few ways to get through it:
Just keep trying to open the door. Each attempt will damage you, but on the fifth try the door will open.
If Ribsmasher (#7) survived, then after you've attempted to go through the door once, he'll show up and offer to smash down the door for you. If you let him go through with it, then he'll die but the door will open (however, Ribsmasher won't leave any remains behind, so you won't be able to get his Gloves of the Long Death +3 this way).
If you have The Master's Shield (#8), The Master's Sword (#4), and The Master's Scepter (#11), then the door will recognize you as the Master, and it will let you pass.
If you killed Uthanck for Ghellu (#11), then Ghellu will send goblins at the door until it opens.

Tip: if you haven't finished the Temple of Four Seasons, make sure you make a SEPARATE save BEFORE entering each room. There is a game breaking problem that rears it's head sometimes in one of the rooms, which requires a replay. I experience the problem about 15% of the time.

 

Interesting. The only way I've ever gotten through is to take the damage. None of the other options ever became available although I met the conditions for at least two of them.

[Ed VilleLin]

So, GCoyote, Ralidor never gave you the option to fight him either? I had the option at first but I wasn't ready to fight him so I left and came back but then he no longer gave me that option.

[BoardGuest808888l]

That particular quest line is tricky. They assume you'll talk to Uthanck first, see the master's message, then Ralidor, and finally Ghellu. Thing is, it is quite possible to miss or pass any one of those and you get messed dialogue.

To think of, for my first 2-3 replays, I didn't even aware that Ralidor existed.

[GCoyote]

Hi Ed. I've always accepted Ralidor's quest and found a sword I believed was the Master's Sword somewhere in the Keep. Ghellu has better loot so I kill him and proceed from there. I'll have to see if I have an old save game somewhere and check which items I collected from Rivergaurd Keep.

[Ed VilleLin]

I know I found the staff and the shield, but Ralidor told me that he took the sword and I couldn't talk him into giving it to me. It gave me the option to fight him, but I wasn't sure if that's what I wanted to do at first, so I said farewell. When I decided to fight him, I went back and talked to him, but then the only option given to me was to say farewell. Let me know what you find out if you do find an old save game.

[Ed VilleLin]

The door did open after 5 tries! I'm on to act 3! Once again, thanks for the help!