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[SKAR]

Grunt had no actual training whatsoever. WE literally birth him when we open the tank. The fact he was bred for combat doesn't mean he was trained. His training was essentially him reading up on how to fight and then doing it. Something a lot of people can do, even without formal training.

The companions I mentioned are the best of the best. Even The Illusive Man, head of a human-centric organization, sees them as such to the point of choosing them for recruitment against the Collectors rather than just humans.

We aren't leading the expedition. Show me where it says we are in charge of the whole thing. I am willing to bet that we are just a cog in the machine when this game starts, followings orders from the actual leaders of the expedition.

He had the imprints. We are a Pathfinder. Most likely one of many. But we're gonna be establishing colonies, gathering remnant tech, and exploring. We have control of a highly advanced ship. We have a high amount of responsibilities. We aren't some average joe. We are obviously an important figure.

[Gannayev of Dreams]

My first thought is that it's a part number for standard issue gear.

[SKAR]

But this does not equal N7. We could just as well be N6 and that we are being trained for N7, which could be why we are on the team. Just like Shepard was supposed to be with that Turian spectre.

That is the only scenario I'd be ok with. We'll see. But we are on an expedition. Why does being tailored for N7 matter when we are so far from home? So you're saying N7 dude dies and we get his armor and finally become N7? I don't know. IF he isn't us he must be integral to the story.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

He had the imprints.

Again, he essentially read up on it until it was memorized. 

 

We are a Pathfinder. Most likely one of many. But we're gonna be establishing colonies, gathering remnant tech, and exploring. We have control of a highly advanced ship. We have a high amount of responsibilities. We aren't some average joe.

Where did I say we were going to be an average joe? I never said that. I said there are ways for us to be proficient in combat without having a formal background in it like a soldier. There are plenty of people, in real life, other games, and in Mass Effect that are good combatants and leaders without formal training in those fields. Likewise there are many people you are wanting that are not good at doing what Ryder will be doing. 

[MichaelN7]

Our character is a Pathfinder, so I get the feeling that we're more an explorer than a fighter.

[FKA_Servo]

Well, I'm just glad that BIoware regards all opinions on this forum as equally invalid.

[FKA_Servo]

IF he isn't us he must be integral to the story.

 

If there's any justice, he'll be Jenkins redux.

[SKAR]

Again, he essentially read up on it until it was memorized.

Where did I say we were going to be an average joe? I never said that. I said there are ways for us to be proficient in combat without having a formal background in it like a soldier. There are plenty of people, in real life, other games, and in Mass Effect that are good combatants and leaders without formal training in those fields. Likewise there are many people you are wanting that are not good at doing what Ryder will be doing.

But they wouldn't choose one of them to be a Pathfinder. Most people in those games have acquired this through some horrible occurrence. Like Lee from TWD. It's only logical to chose Pathfinders with that grand military training or Law Enforcement background.

[SKAR]

If there's any justice, he'll be Jenkins redux.

Doubtful. We see him too much.

[SKAR]

Our character is a Pathfinder, so I get the feeling that we're more an explorer than a fighter.

We are combat trained but we don't have much experience exploring. We'll be exploring plenty of places sure but remember this is a third person shooter action RPG and we have similar abilities and more new stuff coming with this game.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

But they wouldn't choose one of them to be a Pathfinder. Most people in those games have acquired this through some horrible occurrence. Like Lee from TWD. It's only logical to chose Pathfinders with that grand military training or Law Enforcement background.

Why wouldn't they? If our pathfinder is like say Lara Croft and is skilled in all aspects needed despite not being military, why would they not utilize them? 

[SKAR]

Well, I'm just glad that BIoware regards all opinions on this forum as equally invalid.

Its only fair.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Best case scenario they offer different backgrounds for Ryder. One being them being in the military, and another being they are a civilian skilled in what is required despite not being military. 

[SKAR]

Why wouldn't they? If our pathfinder is like say Lara Croft and is skilled in all aspects needed despite not being military, why would they not utilize them?

They wouldn't hire Lara Croft for this. She's an explorer but she wouldn't be on the top of the list. What I think. We have professional training but we are new to exploring. It's like the opposite of Lara. This is a whole different ball park from tomb raider.

[Hammerstorm]

That is the only scenario I'd be ok with. We'll see. But we are on an expedition. Why does being tailored for N7 matter when we are so far from home? So you're saying N7 dude dies and we get his armor and finally become N7? I don't know. IF he isn't us he must be integral to the story.

 

It should work out just like with shepard most likely in that we would be forced to complete the N7 guys mission and therefore we are accepted by the command that we are fit to be N7. 

 

Edit: apparently, if we are going to be N7 we must complete the N6 training to gain the N7 designation, so we should begin as N5, not N6.

Apologise for the mistake. 

[Pasquale1234]

But they wouldn't choose one of them to be a Pathfinder. Most people in those games have acquired this through some horrible occurrence. Like Lee from TWD. It's only logical to chose Pathfinders with that grand military training or Law Enforcement background.

It'd be more logical to choose Pathfinders with pathfinding skills.

Exploring unknown worlds, observation, mapping, specimen collection, making first contact, all of those sorts of things would be very useful.

As far as combat training, defense would be more important than offense, and could include running, hiding, and escape proficiency.

The PC will, of course, be able to successfully engage in combat, since the game will undoubtedly include quite a bit of it.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

They wouldn't hire Lara Croft for this. She's an explorer but she wouldn't be on the top of the list. What I think. We have professional training but we are new to exploring. It's like the opposite of Lara. This is a whole different ball park from tomb raider.

Why would you have someone who is new to exploring to lead a ship and crew assigned to an exploration mission? 

[SKAR]

Best case scenario they offer different backgrounds for Ryder. One being them being in the military, and another being they are a civilian skilled in what is required despite not being military.

Maybe. If there is a choice then military training all the way. You get no better discipline and combat training than from the military. That's where true warriors are forged.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Maybe. If there is a choice then military training all the way.

I hope they give a choice then so you can be happy while I'm not stuck with Shepard 2.0. 

 

Maybe. If there is a choice then military training all the way. You get no better discipline and combat training than from the military. That's where true warriors are forged.

*looks at the famous warriors in history who weren't formally trained* History partially disagrees with you. Many true warriors were, but not all. 

[SKAR]

I hope they give a choice then so you can be happy while I'm not stuck with Shepard 2.0.

*looks at the famous warriors in history who weren't formally trained* History partially disagrees with you. Many true warriors were, but not all.

Name some please. You know I'll be honest with you, I just like N7. They're bad@$$. They have the best gear and training. But it's more than that. It's iconic to the Mass Effect trilogy. The "N7 guy" looks so cool ya know? I got my fingers crossed. Have you played Halo? I havent played since Reach. In that game did Noble 6 feel like Master Chief 2.0?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Name some please. You know I'll be honest with you, I just like N7. They're bad@$$. They have the best gear and training. But it's more than that. It's iconic to the Mass Effect trilogy. The "N7 guy" looks so cool ya know. I got my fingers crossed. Have you played Halo? I havent played since Reach. In that game did Noble 6 feel like Master Chief 2.0?

For starters, the people who pioneered the fighting styles that people used for centuries, millennia, or even still today. They weren't formally trained in that since they invented it themselves. 

I won't get your hopes up on us being N7, at least not in the beginning. Everything the devs had said so far points to us being inexperienced. There is no such thing as an inexperienced N7. 

It is iconic to the Shepard Trilogy yes, but it is not iconic to the Mass Effect franchise at large. At least not universally so. 

Yes, I have played Halo. I love the franchise. To answer your question though yes Noble 6 felt like Master Chief 2.0 because they essentially were the John of the Spartan IIIs. There are a number of comparisons made between the two pointing out the similarities, especially in the expanded universe. 

[SKAR]

For starters, the people who pioneered the fighting styles that people used for centuries, millennia, or even still today. They weren't formally trained in that since they invented it themselves.
I won't get your hopes up on us being N7, at least not in the beginning. Everything the devs had said so far points to us being inexperienced. There is no such thing as an inexperienced N7.
It is iconic to the Shepard Trilogy yes, but it is not iconic to the Mass Effect franchise at large. At least not universally so.
Yes, I have played Halo. I love the franchise. To answer your question though yes Noble 6 felt like Master Chief 2.0 because they essentially were the John of the Spartan IIIs. There are a number of comparisons made between the two pointing out the similarities, especially in the expanded universe.

Come on. You can't use Neanderthals. I believe we are N7. 2014 proved that. If they did say we're inexperienced they meant we are new to exploring. Obviously not combat as we've seen. Kai leng became N7 at 20. Pretty young. They don't mean combat inexperienced. N7 seems to be a pretty big deal. They pan in on it in every trailer.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Come on. You can't use Neanderthals. I believe we are N7. 2014 proved that. If they did say we're inexperienced they meant we are new to exploring. Obviously not combat as we've seen. Kai leng became N7 at 20. Pretty young. They don't mean combat inexperienced.

I'm not using Neanderthals. The people I mention have been as recent as this past century, like the ace pilots who developed the dogfight techniques all other pilots now learn. Aerial warfare was such a new concept that there was no formal training for it other than how to pilot a plane and how to pull a trigger. Everything else the pilots had to make up themselves. 

You're free to believe that. Just be ready to accept that you may be wrong. 

[Gannayev of Dreams]

Preferring your N7 to be experienced field agents and come equipped with expert military training is a luxury you'd have in the Milky Way Galaxy with all of humanity at your disposal. Not something we're going to have access to with limited personnel in Andromeda. It is entirely possible that they would fill their N7 roster in this new galaxy with promising recruits rather than grizzled veterans, which were unlikely to be chosen (at least in bulk) when preparing to flee the Milky Way. Most of your "best" would be fighting the reapers.

 

Andromeda's N7 program will likely be stuck with whatever they can get. It could certainly be possible that includes us.

[FKA_Servo]

Come on. You can't use Neanderthals. I believe we are N7. 2014 proved that. If they did say we're inexperienced they meant we are new to exploring. Obviously not combat as we've seen. Kai leng became N7 at 20. Pretty young. They don't mean combat inexperienced. N7 seems to be a pretty big deal. They pan in on it in every trailer.

 

Kai Leng should probably be stricken from the record completely, in every aspect. He was a floating turd in an ocean of sewage.

 

I suppose he does personify the particular flavor of "badass" that you've been championing, though.