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[PapaCharlie9]

I know that DA2 has literal Acts, but DAI does not. We make rough reference to early, middle and late game, but I'd like to be more concrete by dividing the main quest milestones into Acts. Then I can say stuff like, "This build will get you through Act 1."

So here's my cut at it.

Prologue
 

Self-explanatory

Act 1

 

The Wrath Of Heaven through In Your Heart Shall Burn

Act 2

 

From The Ashes through Wicked Eyes, Wicked Hearts & Here Lies The Abyss

Act 3

 

What Pride Had Wrought through Doom Upon All The World

Agree/disagree? 

 

EDIT: I'm a bit uncertain as to whether Pride belongs in Act 2 or Act 3.

[YourFunnyUncle]

That seems as close as you could get. It's just made really fuzzy by the huge amount of optional content which can be done at almost any time, especially when you take DLC into account.

Would Trespasser be an epilogue or act four?

[PapaCharlie9]

That seems as close as you could get. It's just made really fuzzy by the huge amount of optional content which can be done at almost any time, especially when you take DLC into account.

Would Trespasser be an epilogue or act four?

 

Trespasser would be Volume 2, I think, with at least two Acts of it's own, basically before and after The Darvaarad. Or DAI, the Sequel. Since there is a card epilogue for the main game, not to mention for Trespasser, it would be confusing to call it an Epilogue.

 

I agree that the optional content in between confuses things. Measured by hours, a lot of players will spend 50% or more of their time just in Act 1, lost in the Hinterlands.

[Arlee]

I think that's about how I would do it as well. Pride and Doom always seem like they are supposed to go pretty much right into each other so having them together makes sense. I wouldn't classify Trespasser as a sequel or volume 2 because it isn't really full enough for either of those things. It really fills the role of a an epilogue because it ties up things from Inquisition and sets the stage for the next installment.

[PapaCharlie9]

I think that's about how I would do it as well. Pride and Doom always seem like they are supposed to go pretty much right into each other so having them together makes sense. I wouldn't classify Trespasser as a sequel or volume 2 because it isn't really full enough for either of those things. It really fills the role of a an epilogue because it ties up things from Inquisition and sets the stage for the next installment.

Hmm. Hard to find an analogy, really. Closest might be a full length movie that is made after a TV series is cancelled. Like Firefly to Serenity.

[phoray]

1. You are really into nailing everything down and inside categories. 

 

2. I don't know the names of any of these crazy quests, let me learn...

 

Ah, okay. What you call:

 

Act 1, I call "Haven" or "Pre Skyhold." Alternatively, "Ending the Mage/Templar War and closing the Breach."

 

Act 2 is Adamant and Winter Palace. Alternatively, "Destroying Cory's plan."

 

Act 3 is Arbor Wilds and Final Battle. Alternatively, "Going after Cory Directly." 

 

And then the assumption is also that all companion side quests will be done when given to fill in the gaps? Or skipped altogether for one of those Speed Runs? (I can't imagine skipping a companion side quest  , I am compelled.  )

 

I'm conflicted on Trespasser being it's own volume. On the one hand, I feel it should have been Main Game. On the other, it is a good expansion epilogue that would have made a very long game even longer. I certainly don't consider it to be two acts, though. It's all chasing after the Qun, you don't even realize Solas is involved until right before you go and see him surrounded by stone statues.

[PapaCharlie9]

1. You are really into nailing everything down and inside categories. 

Naturally. Doesn't eveyrone.

2. I don't know the names of any of these crazy quests, let me learn...
 
Ah, okay. What you call:
 
Act 1, I call "Haven" or "Pre Skyhold." Alternatively, "Ending the Mage/Templar War and closing the Breach."
 
Act 2 is Adamant and Winter Palace. Alternatively, "Destroying Cory's plan."
 
Act 3 is Arbor Wilds and Final Battle. Alternatively, "Going after Cory Directly."

 
I'd use slightly different subtitles.

Act 1, Closing the Breach and incidentally ending the Mage/Templar war

Act 2, Destroying Cory's back-up plan (Breach was Plan A, demon army was Plan B -- or did he plan to have the demon army either way), and incidentally ending the Orlesian civil war.

Act 3, Thwarting Cory's back-up, back-up plan and returning the Orb to So...I mean, the elves. Except that vengeance gets the upper hand.

[phoray]

Naturally. Doesn't eveyrone.

 
I'd use slightly different subtitles.

Act 1, Closing the Breach and incidentally ending the Mage/Templar war

Act 2, Destroying Cory's back-up plan (Breach was Plan A, demon army was Plan B -- or did he plan to have the demon army either way), and incidentally ending the Orlesian civil war.

Act 3, Thwarting Cory's back-up, back-up plan and returning the Orb to So...I mean, the elves. Except that vengeance gets the upper hand.

 

 

You're right, that was sort of Incidentally. The Inquisition just absorbs one side of the war, Cory gets the other side, ...wait, doesn't that mean it kind of continues in a different form?   

 

The breach was never plan A. As someone explained to me, Cory was very upset by the Breach and was demanding that Alexius use his time magic in the future to go back to a time before the Breach. The Breach is bad for everyone and did not help, even in the slightest, to bring Tevinter back to it's former glory. The world was ending, that's not actually what Cory wanted. So, Plan A all along was: 1. Cast the religion that strengthens most of the countries into chaos by killing divine. 2. demon army (since he was definitely already working on that, I place it as 2) and 3, Florianna killing her brother and the Empress and throwing a large country into even further chaos.

 

I'm not certain we ended the Orlesian War at all. It was gonna end that night when Empress Celene arrested Gaspard and put into light that he'd deigned to use non cheveliers, sans Florianna and Inquisition involvement.

 

I don't quite understand why he wanted the Well... So he could unlock the Orb more properly? So he wouldn't need his demon army in a world of chaos so much? And was it ever implied the Orb would simply be given to the Elves? Knowledge is one thing, but an Orb I've actually seen cause a gigantic explosion and tear a rip in the veil should be destroyed.

 

Sorry, not sorry, Solas.