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Once upon a time, I told a friend of mine, how lucky we were for being able to play games like Mass Effect, Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age Origins. The wise guy quickly replied something like; why do you say that? Is Bioware going bankrupt again?

And I answered; No, nothing that drastic, I just believe RPG's will evolve, I also think if you look at Mass Effect 2, Bioware has no idea of why people buy their games, (I really hope that changes),* and last but not the least Bioware staff will change and things will never be the same again.**

 

Roughly six years later... The RPG genre as evolved massively, and is by this time quite different beast.

Looking at Mass Effect 3, before E.C. (Extended Cut), by early 2012 Bioware still didn't knew why people bought their games, maybe they've learned by now... I hope.

Bioware staff definitely changed over the years and things never were the same again.

 

Now the "generally feared" Mass Effect Andromeda...*** I actually think Mass Effect Andromeda will be a great game, genuine but different and I'm truly hyped about this one and I will not be surprised if it beats Dragon Age Inquisition numbers with some ease.

That said I believe people should ready themselves if they are waiting for a Mass Effect clone, it will not happen.

Andromeda will be a all new beast, an RPG, with space sim heavy component, in-depth NPC's interactions revamped and bettered, lots of customization, exploration, driving, sprinkled with good old, (maybe new?), fashion Mass Effect action. I haven't seen much but from what I've seen or heard the game only haves one true flaw... Multiplayer**** and I bet a lot of people don't think on that as a flaw. A total new experience with an old familiar feel.

 

Explaining myself. 

To avoid any kind of misinterpretation:

*What I mean when I say "I also think if you look at Mass Effect 2, Bioware has no idea of why people buy their games".

Let's be honest for a moment, Bioware doesn't have the best graphics engine by this moment in time, (early 2010), (now with Frostbite it's a different tune), they also don't have the best combat mechanics and there are tons of RPG's in the market.

Yet people buy their games, why? Because of the great voice acting all around, NPC interactions, driving narrative and a compelling story. That is the reason why I find it strange to leave Liara, Ashley and Kaidan some of the more interesting and the only romanceable NPC's in the first game, out of the main game except for a few cameos. 

 

**At that time I didn't know that Bioware would make a lot of changes as they did. But I know people change, career goals change, times change and in a creative project like a sci-fi franchise, new blood is always a must to keep the creative force at full power.

 

***"Now the "generally feared" Mass Effect Andromeda..."

My words but surely not my feeling. This is the general portrait I get after perusing Bioware forums. I think this is bit unfair to say the least. I don't think Bioware is perfect but, I do believe they deserve the vote of confidence and trust for all fantastic experiences they have delivered us over the years.

 

****I haven't seen much but from what I've seen or heard the game only haves one true flaw... Multiplayer

This phrase is more about feeling that rational thinking. Allow me to explain.

When playing a Mass Effect game, I always have an unique feeling of playing a grand, epic game but also a very personal, intimate experience, my world, my decisions my experience, so pardon me but Multiplayer doesn't feel right according to what I feel when playing a Mass Effect game.

That said, Mass Effect 3 Multiplayer is not the best option in the market but, is definitely a funny, competitive experience if you like the action on Mass Effect 3 you will love it. 

 

 



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I still don't know what DAI's "numbers" are. They never said. And they won't say with this either. So we'll never tell.

 

As for why people buy their games, what do you mean? ME2 was fairly popular...as far as their games go. I do think they didn't cater to the fans that loved that game though. There isn't much of ME2 within ME3. Storywise or character-wise.



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I'd say that Mass Effect 2 shows that Bioware knows their audience well actually. Their companions are the main thing that sets Bioware apart from the other big-name RPGs, and ME2 not only had the most companions out of any Bioware game, the vast majority of the game involves recruiting them and then dealing with their unfinished business. And the game was very well received: it has the best metacritic score out of all their games, received over 100 goty awards, frequently pops up on 'best video games of all time' lists etc. 


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Andromeda isn't exactly feared as much as some people were just turned off by the whole ME3 endings thing or the general direction of BioWare from ME2 and on, and they tend to be very vocal about it on the forums.

 

Also, multiplayer a flaw? MP was arguably the best part of Mass Effect 3, and has no noticeable impact on the development of SP regardless of what people say.


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I thought people played Bioware games for the romance? Juuust kidding.

Their games evoke emotions and pull you in. You're not just in a game, you're in a story, PART of a story. Then there's the characters that you come to love or hate, or tolerate, maybe even date, or ignore and leave to their fate.

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Anyway

In regards to people fearing Andromeda, I think possibly people don't so much fear it but are maybe filled with good old wary, nervous anticipation. Or something.

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Andromeda isn't exactly feared as much as some people were just turned off by the whole ME3 endings thing or the general direction of BioWare from ME2 and on, and they tend to be very vocal about it on the forums.

Also, multiplayer a flaw? MP was arguably the best part of Mass Effect 3, and has no noticeable impact on the development of SP regardless of what people say.

MP is quite good but it shouldn't be too big a focus. SP should always be the big money maker

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I don't think many people are fearing Andromeda outside of specific places on the internet and the BioWare boards being one of them.  One of the biggest takeaways I got from E3 was that people wanted to know more about Andromeda and they are excited to see and know more about the game.


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MP is quite good but it shouldn't be too big a focus. SP should always be the big money maker

 

Well there's no danger of it taking the spotlight away from SP.

 

and whatever happens beyond that, it's not pulling away from SP's development.



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Well there's no danger of it taking the spotlight away from SP.

and whatever happens beyond that, it's not pulling away from SP's development.

Yeah but I like horde mode. As long as there's no PVP. that's why there's star wars battlefront. No need to give a bioware game more than it should have.

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Yeah but I like horde mode. As long as there's no PVP. that's why there's star wars battlefront. No need to give a bioware game more than it should have.

 

Well adding PvP would be stupid since the powers aren't designed for it.



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Well adding PvP would be stupid since the powers aren't designed for it.

True.

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I'm confused as to the intent of this thread.



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I'm confused as to the intent of this thread.


Something about Donald Trump, as far as I can tell.

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Well adding PvP would be stupid since the powers aren't designed for it.

If they'd design properly symmetrical game mechanics, this problem would solve itself.
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I'm confused as to the intent of this thread.

 

It's about reflexion. With an X.


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If they'd design properly symmetrical game mechanics, this problem would solve itself.

 

No it wouldn't.

 

As it stands right now there is enough CC to keep another player locked down until death 10 times over. It would become a battle of who hit CC first. It's generally not fun to not be in control of your character for 95% of a fight.

 

Mass Effect doesn't support PvP and would need considerable revamping of abilities in order to make it not terrible.



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No it wouldn't.

As it stands right now there is enough CC to keep another player locked down until death 10 times over. It would become a battle of who hit CC first. It's generally not fun to not be in control of your character for 95% of a fight.

Mass Effect doesn't support PvP and would need considerable revamping of abilities in order to make it not terrible.

Symmetrical mechanics would fix that. If we had symmetrical mechanics in single-player, they would have already removed stun-lock as a possibility.

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Anyone calling the inclusion of a MP mode a flaw have no idea what they're talking about. There are games with tacked on multiplayer modes that are dead in the water just months later.

 

ME3MP still has a player base over 4 years later.



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Anyone calling the inclusion of a MP mode a flaw have no idea what they're talking about. There are games with tacked on multiplayer modes that are dead in the water just months later.

ME3MP still has a player base over 4 years later.

It's a fabulous edition to the Mass Effect universe. It's still fun. Still playing as the N7 slayer.

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ME3MP still has a player base over 4 years later.

And I will never play it.

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And I will never play it.

Good for you. Still doesn't make it a mistake including it.



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And I will never play it.

That's your loss, not anyone elses.



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And I will never play it.

Your loss.

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Sylvius the Mad

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That's your loss, not anyone elses.

My gain (given that I would hate it), but you're right that it affects no one else.

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My gain (given that I would hate it), but you're right that it affects no one else.

You'd love it. But I guess you'll never know so still your loss. You gain nothing.