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I wonder how natural super powers would work in ME?


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Do you think ME will ever debate the belief that humans can or will develop mental super powers like, Telepathy, ESP or Telekinesis naturally?

 

And would alien races from the Milky Way also be capable of such abilities? 

 

It'd be interest to see something come about this, like a Codex Entry that either disproves it's validity, or Salarians performing evolutionary test on humans to see if they can harness this potential power for themselves. 

 

 

 

 



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You mean like Asari with biotics? Is that a good example? That's because there is a high amount of element zero on Thessia, it become a part of them. Besides we have biotics from eezo exposure anyway.
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I am with SKAR (again). Because ME is supposed to be SF, super powers will most likely be tech in the form of implants or be related to the magical eezo in some way.


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No. They'll be explained as individuals who are extremely sensitive to their biotic abilities.

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Well, there is that bit in Leviathan when Ann Bryson talks about rachni, she says something like: "we think of them as being telepathic when there's really no such thing" and then a sciencey explanation follows...



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But they already have superpowers. Why would it make a difference if they're naturally occurring or not? And why would that be a worthwhile topic for the games to tackle? 



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I am with SKAR (again). Because ME is supposed to be SF, super powers will most likely be tech in the form of implants or be related to the magical eezo in some way.

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Well, there is that bit in Leviathan when Ann Bryson talks about rachni, she says something like: "we think of them as being telepathic when there's really no such thing" and then a sciencey explanation follows...

 

Can't say I played Leviathan to mock that one, but this Bryson follow sounds like she needs to go talk to an Asari, who are 100% telepathic. 


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Aren't biotics kind of super powers anyway? I wouldn't mind some cool powers for the Andromedans tho, seen as they do not have to be similar to us in any way. They could have firebreathing aliens, or aliens able to change some of their molecular structure to gain armour or whatever. Also some that are able to manipulate element zero in different ways maybe (not biotics, but sth that also alters their mass, like teleporting or changing their size or density, kind of like The Vision).

 

So yes to superpowers, but only if Andromedans have it.



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Aren't biotics kind of super powers anyway? I wouldn't mind some cool powers for the Andromedans tho, seen as they do not have to be similar to us in any way. They could have firebreathing aliens, or aliens able to change some of their molecular structure to gain armour or whatever. Also some that are able to manipulate element zero in different ways maybe (not biotics, but sth that also alters their mass, like teleporting or changing their size or density, kind of like The Vision).

 

So yes to superpowers, but only if Andromedans have it.

 

They're only superpowers in the way that the force is a superpower, i.e., they are totally superpowers and it's funny to see people pretend otherwise. The krogran also have superpowers (their Wolverine-like healing factor), though that one is easier to handwave away since, you know, totally different race.  


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Can't say I played Leviathan to mock that one, but this Bryson follow sounds like she needs to go talk to an Asari, who are 100% telepathic. 

 

wut is even happening with this statement  :huh:  :lol:

 

I think the point of it was that it isn't technically telepathy. There's fictional science to explain it, rather than it being a "super power." I assume this would extend to the asari. The idea isn't wrong, the understanding or explanation of it is.



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wut is even happening with this statement  :huh:  :lol:

 

I think the point of it was that it isn't technically telepathy. There's fictional science to explain it, rather than it being a "super power." I assume this would extend to the asari. The idea isn't wrong, the understanding or explanation of it is.

It's definitionally telephaphy for the Asari. That's my point. The handwave doesn't work. I'm going to bet the rachni explanation would be something along the lines of "they use smells or scents (or whatever)" to communicate. Basically, it's created a non-verbal but physical explanation.

The Asari are just actually telepathic in the magic sense. You could come up with some gibberish pseudoscience to explain it, but it doesn't really work. 



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It's definitionally telephaphy for the Asari. That's my point. The handwave doesn't work. I'm going to bet the rachni explanation would be something along the lines of "they use smells or scents (or whatever)" to communicate. Basically, it's created a non-verbal but physical explanation.

The Asari are just actually telepathic in the magic sense. You could come up with some gibberish pseudoscience to explain it, but it doesn't really work. 

 

I'm not going to sit here and defend a fictional scientist or argue about fictional science. I was just making a passing note that seemed relevant to the topic.



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I'm not going to sit here and defend a fictional scientist or argue about fictional science. I was just making a passing note that seemed relevant to the topic.

 

That's good, because I didn't think I'd have to defend a not-particularly-good joke (about Bioware forgetting they have another, harder to explain race of telepathic aliens) and yet here we are. 



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That's good, because I didn't think I'd have to defend a not-particularly-good joke (about Bioware forgetting they have another, harder to explain race of telepathic aliens) and yet here we are. 

 

Indeed.



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Do you think ME will ever debate the belief that humans can or will develop mental super powers like, Telepathy, ESP or Telekinesis naturally?


Well... biotics function like telekinesis, so that's already covered.

Asari are capable of something similar to telepathy, though I think the explanation has to do with linking neural networks.

The thorian was apparently able to control its thralls at quite a distance, and the rachni have long distance communication capabilities. Speaking of thralls, I don't think they ever explained exactly how the leviathan managed.

Then there's Javik, with his ability to read energy signatures from people long gone.

So I think we've already seen some species with abilities resembling some of the things you named, though I don't know that humans will ever be able to acquire them. Maybe eventually through genetic modification?

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I'm pretty sure we already have telepathy.

 

It just requires embracing eternity.


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My Vanguard Shepard was already a gravity-warping superhero. 



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I think people are getting way too caught up in terminology here, almost to the point of borderline being ignorant on purpose.

 

The point of the topic was in case it wasn't clear in the opening topic.

 

1.) Could (and I'll refrain from using the term "Superpower" since it causes so much confusion.) Telepathy, and other mental extraordinary abilities not related to technological advancements in whatever make believe science field lead to the discovery of Mass Effect fields and whatever else that made Biotics plausible in universe (see how Superpowers makes that a lot faster to say.) be discovered in the Mass Effect Universe? For a for list of "Extraordinary Mental capabilities." refer to your copy of the 3.5 Expanded Psionic Handbook. For those of you who left theirs at home here's a link https://dnd.rem.uz/3...cs Handbook.pdf

 

2.) Could any other milky way race develop or be more likely to develop such abilities?

 

It'd be interesting to see a codex either disproving it's potential existence or whether or not Salarians have already planned for its occurrence. 

 

 

I can't say i memorized everything Anne said in the Leviathan DLC, but the "We tend to think of it as telepathy but isn't" statement seems like garbage if not back peddling. Shepard was completely shield by a mech diving suit and was still mind raped by a Leviathan within seconds of encounter it, that's telepathy, there were microbes infiltrating his mind at that point. Reapers probably aren't using telepathy as they are mimicked something similar to their progenitors abilities and came up in with indoctrination. 

 

This has nothing to do with biotics, and biotics wouldn't even be considered a Superpower in-universe because it's something that was discovered and created by the civilizations there in. It's not a genetic mutation that eventually came about do to evolution over a period of time, though in the case of the Asari it was engineered into them by the protheans which again means it was natural. 

 



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Can't say I played Leviathan to mock that one, but this Bryson follow sounds like she needs to go talk to an Asari, who are 100% telepathic.


Edit: Thinking about it actually. I'm wrong on this different conversation.

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Humans spontaneously developing telepathy would be too much of a stretch, I think. Via genetic engineering and/or cybernetics could fit OK.

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Personally, I would have found it easier to just accept all the strange manifestations of "space magic" as Psionics, than to see the definition of "biotics"

being stretched out of plausibility every time certain powers or phenomena needed an explanation.

 

A separation between the technology derived of element zero and "super powers" would have made for a clearer lore overall.

 

Reaper Indoctrination? Super-Psionics. Rachni telepathy? Psionics. Asari mind-meld? Psionics. Thorian? Psionics. Ardat Yakshi? Psionics. etc.


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I doubt it. It would be kind of redundant anyway when a fair few people can gain those powers by way of Eezo exposure or implants or equipment.



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You mean like Asari with biotics? Is that a good example? That's because there is a high amount of element zero on Thessia, it become a part of them. Besides we have biotics from eezo exposure anyway.

 

Not just that, they more or less stated that the Protheans genetically engineered them, too and taught them stuff, not to mention that they left them that beacon encased in that Prothean-Statue!

 

Still, interesting idea (on the other hand: Telepathy can be shown better in books...games and movies didn't alwaysdo the best job...only Babylon 5 handled it well IMHO, especially with Bester :) (damned, love that character, despite not agreeing with him and not liking the Psi-Corps!))