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Does Andromeda have to achieve greatness, or is 'pretty good' good enough?


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#101
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If you question Origins or ME2, it is clear you just have an agenda. Those two are constantly referenced even online. But then, your dismissive and condescending posts only prove the point I just made. Stop being so dismissive and hostile to fans of Bioware and their games ON THEIR FORUMS. Enough is enough.

 

I understand that DAO and ME2 are beloved games. I love DAO(I can't even remember how many times I've played it at this point). But GOAT? Come on. Maybe your personal favorite, but not GOAT. 



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I understand that DAO and ME2 are beloved games. I love DAO(I can't even remember how many times I've played it at this point). But GOAT? Come on. Maybe your personal favorite, but not GOAT.


Wtf is GOAT

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Wtf is GOAT

Greatest Of All Time


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#104
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I'm cool with pretty good. If a game is pretty good, I'm guessing I got a positive experience out of it. 

 

Yeah, pretty much. Obviously it would be nice if I thought it was better than that though. I had a lot of issues with Inquisition but I did have a positive experience when I played it. I just never returned to it nor do I have plans to do so.  


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Yeah, DAO and ME2 are definitely solid contenders for GOAT.

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I understand that DAO and ME2 are beloved games. I love DAO(I can't even remember how many times I've played it at this point). But GOAT? Come on. Maybe your personal favorite, but not GOAT.


Why? Because you say so? Why would my top 5 not be the greatest games of all time in my opinion? You are not making any sense...
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And Inquisition was pretty much an empty box, devoid of quality content.

lolwut? Having a lot of optional content (read: side quests) does NOT make a game devoid of quality content. You people, I swear.



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lolwut? Having a lot of optional content (read: side quests) does NOT make a game devoid of quality content. You people, I swear.


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*Pinches bridge of nose*

Don't
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Just

Speak already. 



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*thrashes like a thresher maw*

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Wtf is GOAT

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Why? Because you say so? Why would my top 5 not be the greatest games of all time in my opinion? You are not making any sense...

 
There's a difference between "this is my favorite" and "this is the greatest of all time." For instance, my favorite movie is probably Predator, but I would never say it's a contender for greatest movie of all time. 
 

lolwut? Having a lot of optional content (read: side quests) does NOT make a game devoid of quality content. You people, I swear.

 
Right, optional "content." 
 
"Did you happen to pick up a single herb on your way here, Inquisitor? Oh, you did? Splendid!"
>content completed<



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There's a difference between "this is my favorite" and "this is the greatest of all time." For instance, my favorite movie is probably Predator, but I would never say it's a contender for greatest movie of all time. 
 

 
Right, optional "content." 
 
"Did you happen to pick up a single herb on your way here, Inquisitor? Oh, you did? Splendid!"
>content completed<

 

Um... there are no objective measures to Greatest of all time, therefore my favourites are the greatest of all time... that is how subjective taste works. 

 

And the optional content is far more than that.  I've listed it time and time again but for some reason, this crowd of "it's empty!" doesn't want to acknowledge it.


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Um... there are no objective measures to Greatest of all time, therefore my favourites are the greatest of all time... that is how subjective taste works.


The point.





Your head.
 

And the optional content is far more than that.  I've listed it time and time again but for some reason, this crowd of "it's empty!" doesn't want to acknowledge it.


Well I appreciate you listing it again for me*.










*I'll just go ahead and explain this joke for you since I know you won't get it. By thanking you for listing all of the sidequests after you didn't list anything I'm implying there are no sidequests to list.



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Wtf is GOAT

 

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It's a medium-sized mammal commonly found on farms, but that's not important right now.

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The point.





Your head.
 


Well I appreciate you listing it again for me*.










*I'll just go ahead and explain this joke for you since I know you won't get it. By thanking you for listing all of the sidequests after you didn't list anything I'm implying there are no sidequests to list.

You really need lessons on how to converse without being hostile and condescending...

 

But just because:

 

Greatest of all time is subjective.  That is the point.  There is no objective measure so therefore your claim that no one can find those three games listed as the GOAT is simply wrong.

 

The companion quests:

Suledin Keep

The entirety of searching the swamps to rescue the captured scouts

The Western Approach is not only filled with quests completely optional and more than "pick herb" but is also filled with a plethora of storytelling that requires the player to actually pay attention (actually, can be said of all areas, let alone optional ones)

The numerous agents you can recruit if you pay attention to the notes and clues in the world, let alone quests directly given to you

The customization of Skyhold (from the windows all the way up to the courtyard/tower/garden choices)

Crafting

 

Seriously, it is not hard to come up with a list to debunk the tired claim that DA:I is empty.  It isn't.  It just isn't spoon fed to the gamer  and it has become increasingly obvious a lot of the posters making that claim just can't handle that style.  But I suspect you'll just do what every other poster that gets challenged so easily and quickly with this does and dismiss it all and claim I'm just wrong because... no reason, just because you say so. 



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Seriously do gamers honestly think other gamers go around voting for games they don't like?

I don't understand the award fixation and what others may or may not think about the games I happen to like is their problem.


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I'm certainly not trying to be rude, but you are doing the same as you accuse the other poster of. Flames wars exist, because both parties allow it and both start them.


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*looks at watch* So what did I miss in 6-7 hours? 

 

 

I never wanted to argue about this too much personally. I just can't tell how popular DAI actually was. Raw numbers or user-driven awards would go a long way.


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Um... there are no objective measures to Greatest of all time, therefore my favourites are the greatest of all time... that is how subjective taste works. 
 
And the optional content is far more than that.  I've listed it time and time again but for some reason, this crowd of "it's empty!" doesn't want to acknowledge it.


I agree completely i really don't get all the hate over inquisition it's my favorite game so far hell i wish the open areas where even bigger and the inclusion of multiple races was great.

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I'm certainly not trying to be rude, but you are doing the same as you accuse the other poster of. Flames wars exist, because both parties allow it and both start them.


And yet my first post had no snark and didn't do anything to dismiss any single poster. Every reply from Killeoy since has been snark or dismissive. If my calling out that poster out for being condescending and dismissive is rude, then so be it.

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*looks at watch* So what did I miss in 6-7 hours? 

 

 

I never wanted to argue about this too much personally. I just can't tell how popular DAI actually was. Raw numbers or user-driven awards would go a long way.

I know it was very popular for me since I have many playthroughs.


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I know it was very popular for me since I have many playthroughs.

 

Yeah. that kind of surprises me. Because we agree often on many things. But to each their own.

 

What I had in mind was awards like Golden Joystick. They almost get something like 10 million votes. It's the largest afaik. It's a good indicator of what's popular. Sometimes I value what reviews or publications say (or simply just the word of mouth of a fellow individual), but it's much more limited.



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7 out of 10 won't be enough for keeping me in. Only if that score is going to be mine and not random user metacritics and mainstream scores.



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And yet my first post had no snark and didn't do anything to dismiss any single poster. Every reply from Killeoy since has been snark or dismissive. If my calling out that poster out for being condescending and dismissive is rude, then so be it.

I just have him on ignore, myself.


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