Funny, given how much praise the Suicide Mission got, you'd think they'd have found the money somewhere for a repeat.
I mean, the y found the money to shoehorn in MP
Sadly, shoehorning MP was probably cake since all EA had to be told was "Battlefield in the MEU". While well-integrated story elements, like the suicide mission, are investment heavy with smaller predictable payback.
Shoehorn in MP? I don't see it. The folks who called MP a cynical cash-grab were right. MP was a way to cash in via microtransactions. Cut MP and the profit projections for ME3 get worse, not better; if anything, MP was subsidizing SP.Funny, given how much praise the Suicide Mission got, you'd think they'd have found the money somewhere for a repeat.
I mean, the y found the money to shoehorn in MP
The Warden isn't a bad thing necessarily.
The Sacrifice ending works very well since it is an actual sacrifice since the player has the option of not sacrificing the player character but can choose to.
OK. Now, sell that expanded budget to EA. Or you can get there by cutting other stuff, if you like.
Easy. "Lets not further devalue the Mass Effect brand by again, disappointing our customers with a rushed and underwhelming ending that gets a terrible amount of negative publicity."
The ME3 backlash should teach Bioware (and the industry as a whole) that endings being delayed or putoff till the "end of the pipeline" is no longer acceptable design protocol. At least not in games where the story, characters and endings are expected to be satisfying. Bioware should be writing, planning, designing these endings months in advance. This isn't content that can afford to be put off till after the middle of the game is finished, and then they move on to the ending and squeeze out whatever is left, with whatever budget and time is left. Those old world "pipelines" aren't acceptable anymore. Bioware needs to figure out how to significantly invest in endings without putting them off till the end of the development cycle. No more rushing, no more running out of time or resources. This isn't rocket science, its just an allocation of resources that Bioware and EA have an abundance of. Time, money and talent.
Though it does turn out that the Warden was sacrificing herself for nothing. Not a problem since PCs should have opportunities to be wrong.
Except the sacrifice isn't necessarily wrong.
But other than that you're totally right.
The problem with this argument is that it's all hindsight. ME3 wasn't DA2; ME3 was already the most expensive game in the series, with the most dialogue and the most plot divergence. Of course, much of that was spent handling the aftermath of ME2's SM, which just shows how dopey it was to put something like that in the middle of the series.Easy. "Lets not further devalue the Mass Effect brand by again, disappointing our customers with a rushed and underwhelming ending that gets a terrible amount of negative publicity."
Well, I'm still waiting to see some reason to skip the DR. Maybe one will show up someday. Though RP-wise there are plenty of reasons not to do it.Except the sacrifice isn't necessarily wrong.
Well, I'm still waiting to see some reason to skip the DR. Maybe one will show up someday. Though RP-wise there are plenty of reasons not to do it.
You want the Old God dead. Anything else I can help you with?
You can come up with RP reasons for it, like I said, but most of them require the character to be wrong about something. In this case, it's caring about the Old God being alive or dead, which is going to be either unimportant or a bad thing to want. Unless you're playing some sort of religious fanatic, I guess.
Remains to be seen.
You can come up with RP reasons for it, like I said, but most of them require the character to be wrong about something. In this case, it's caring about the Old God being alive or dead, which is going to be either unimportant or a bad thing to want. Unless you're playing some sort of religious fanatic, I guess.
Well, my Dalish already screwed up his life by messing with other ancient magical stuff. Plus, he's sort of guilt-ridden for a few reasons (killed the humans in the beginning). In addition to that, he came to grips with Andrastianism via Leliana romance. He's not a religious fanatic though...it just gives him a new perspective and reason to be wary of Morrigan.
I can almost do the same thing on other origins. Like a City Elf who sold out Shianni. There's another guilt-ridden character. If they have any heart, they're gonna kill Loghain and not worm their way out of responsibility for once and die in the end.
The problem with this argument is that it's all hindsight. ME3 wasn't DA2; ME3 was already the most expensive game in the series, with the most dialogue and the most plot divergence. Of course, much of that was spent handling the aftermath of ME2's SM, which just shows how dopey it was to put something like that in the middle of the series.
Where did "further" come from, anyhow? ME2 was a success.
I think you've lost me, I'm talking about arguing for investing in the ending of ME:A using ME3 as an example of what not to do. I'm not suggesting a rhetorical argument for how they should have presented designing ME3's ending.
"Further" was in reference to the backlash of the ME3 ending.
I want to hate MP but I've spent so much time on it and enjoyed it immensely that I've more than got my money's worth from ME3 despite my huge disappointment with SP. Never paid for any packs with real money though.Sadly, shoehorning MP was probably cake since all EA had to be told was "Battlefield in the MEU". While well-integrated story elements, like the suicide mission, are investment heavy with smaller predictable payback.
Except they didn't, because I couldn't actually control them, so they were little more than NPCs.Yes. Shepard, his/her LI, squad and world became characters that you cared for.
There you go.Well, I'm still waiting to see some reason to skip the DR. Maybe one will show up someday. Though RP-wise there are plenty of reasons not to do it.
The Warden doesn't know that at the time. That's only revealed in later games.Though it does turn out that the Warden was sacrificing herself for nothing. Not a problem since PCs should have opportunities to be wrong.
I want to hate MP but I've spent so much time on it and enjoyed it immensely that I've more than got my money's worth from ME3 despite my huge disappointment with SP. Never paid for any packs with real money though.
I don't hate MP, save some resentment that they recycled the maps for cheap, pointless pew pew side missions.
But MP is largely pointless to me. I have no wish to play it, so buying a game that has a horrible single player story but "at least has good MP" is wasted money for me.
How would you know that?Yes. That's why I said "turn out."
My only problem with player choices turning out to be mistakes is when I know ahead of time which kind of choices are going to be mistakes.
I don't hate MP, save some resentment that they recycled the maps for cheap, pointless pew pew side missions.
The same way I knew that it was perfectly safe to go to the Circle rather than using blood magic when dealing with Connor.How would you know that?
I don't hate MP, save some resentment that they recycled the maps for cheap, pointless pew pew side missions.
But MP is largely pointless to me. I have no wish to play it, so buying a game that has a horrible single player story but "at least has good MP" is wasted money for me.
It doesn't seem like any of it could have possibly detracted from SP, though. Like you said, they recycled maps. They recycled everything. MP existence couldn't have effected much in the SP campaign aside from the bonehead decision to incentivize playing it.
You still haven't answered the question.The same way I knew that it was perfectly safe to go to the Circle rather than using blood magic when dealing with Connor.
The "I" here is literal.
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