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Which companions do you consider to be a traitor?


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#176
Catilina

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I was inclined to believe that Alistair was being unreasonable in this scene, but then I wondered, "what if the shoe was on the other foot?"  What if your warden is a Cousland and Riordan tries to recruit Howe?  (If Riordan had decided to follow you after you freed him instead of seek medical aid, he might have done just that.)  If you're a Cousland, is there anyone here who would agree to that?  I wouldn't.  (By contrast, recruiting Howe might seem a good idea to a dwarf warden and even an elf warden if the choice has to be made before they find out what's going on in the alienage.

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Good point, but slightly different case.

(As Commander? Yes. My Cousland would have welcomed Howe ... )



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I was inclined to believe that Alistair was being unreasonable in this scene, but then I wondered, "what if the shoe was on the other foot?" What if your warden is a Cousland and Riordan tries to recruit Howe? (If Riordan had decided to follow you after you freed him instead of seek medical aid, he might have done just that.) If you're a Cousland, is there anyone here who would agree to that? I wouldn't. (By contrast, recruiting Howe might seem a good idea to a dwarf warden and even an elf warden if the choice has to be made before they find out what's going on in the alienage.


While putting the greater good above your personal feelings still is the right thing to do, it is true that sometimes it isn't that easy.

I'm not sure if Alistair's situation can be compared to those examples, though. He feels like Loghain is Duncan's murderer, but that is a bit of a stretch.

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I was inclined to believe that Alistair was being unreasonable in this scene, but then I wondered, "what if the shoe was on the other foot?"  What if your warden is a Cousland and Riordan tries to recruit Howe?  (If Riordan had decided to follow you after you freed him instead of seek medical aid, he might have done just that.)  If you're a Cousland, is there anyone here who would agree to that?  I wouldn't.  (By contrast, recruiting Howe might seem a good idea to a dwarf warden and even an elf warden if the choice has to be made before they find out what's going on in the alienage.

 

 

I think you're being too harsh on Alistair.  Remember, he was the junior Warden before the PC comes along.  He doesn't even know about the US.  For him, Duncan is the Grey Wardens.  Recruiting Loghain seems like a double betrayal to Alistair.  (He does not appear to appreciate that GWs recruit from the "rabble" as well as from the "cream of the crop."  My guess is he has no idea how Duncan ended up in the GWs.

Yeah.My guess is that he doesn't realize that lots of grey wardens are mostly the scum loghain is.He kinda thinks like calian that the grey wardens are super heroes and stuff.Don't get me wrong im on Alistair side,He clearly let you know that he want to kill loghain fron the beginning(your warden can even say that he prefers to join forces with loghain):"He just betrayed his own king! If Arl Eamon knew what he did at Ostagar, he would be the first to call for his execution!"



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Hmmm.  I guess Morrigan was one since she turned her back on the Peacekeepers.

 

Well, they tried to kill her since she's been irreversibly contaminated. I think in that case it's justifiable.