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[R0dr1g0s]

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Lol

The BSN Puritans / SJWs certainly will if the gender is female and is wearing a body fitting armour that shows t1ts, hips, and azz.

Yes, they fuckin' will

[straykat]

That's fine. No one is telling you what you have to care about. Insinuating that people who do care about social justice aren't real gamers comes off as telling people what they can care about. 

 

I'm curious, when you see a racist depiction in a game do you ever speak out? 

 

I'm saying that people woudn't have a one track mind. They would actually talk about games more, if they cared. If they can do that, fine.

 

I don't know any racist depictions in games, so no. Outside of games developed by Nazis, but who the hell plays those?

 

I see slight slip ups occasionally, but I think I need to be patient with people. I'm nearing 40 years old, and this is something I've learned. To not be such an impatient jerk about every slight in life. I've had white friends who said dumb things, and when I was young, I'd chew them out... but it was unnecessary. I burnt bridges with essentially good people. This is similar to what I see some people doing now with games.

[R0dr1g0s]

Will I get to feast on OP's tears if she is?

Just like this racist bioware employee? https://twitter.com/...6886784/photo/1

no, you don't

[maia0407]

I'm saying that people woudn't have a one track mind. They would actually talk about games more, if they cared. If they can do that, fine.

 

I don't know any racist depictions in games, so no. Outside of games developed by Nazis, but who the hell plays those?

 

I see slight slip ups occasionally, but I think I need to be patient with people. I'm nearing 40 years old, and this is something I've learned. To not be such an impatient jerk about every slight in life. I've had white friends who said dumb things, and when I was young, I'd chew them out... but it was unnecessary. I burnt bridges with essentially good people. This is similar to what I see some people doing now with games.

I'm not following "they would actually talk about games more if they cared". What does that mean? Are you saying that discussing social justice issues within gaming means that you don't care about games? Again, that's coming off as telling people what they can care about. 

 

You didn't see any issues with the way Jacob was depicted? Would you like to see more POC's in games? Don't feel like you have to answer as these questions are just rhetorical. I don't want to derail the thread. 

 

I don't see  'slip-ups occasionally' in regards to women in gaming. I see very problematic depictions of women throughout the industry. Gaming companies are starting to take notice thanks to all the protest. The time to shut-up isn't when we're gaining traction no matter how much people would like to have their games go back to the status quo. 

 

I'm nearing 40 as well and my life lessons have taught me something very different from you. I don't believe in staying silent as being silent has never brought about change. I'm not going to pipe down about injustices as I want to see gaming improved. 

[Paul E Dangerously]

I'm not following "they would actually talk about games more if they cared". What does that mean? Are you saying that discussing social justice issues within gaming means that you don't care about games? Again, that's coming off as telling people what they can care about. 

 

You didn't see any issues with the way Jacob was depicted? Would you like to see more POC's in games? Don't feel like you have to answer as these questions are just rhetorical. I don't want to derail the thread. 

 

I don't see  'slip-ups occasionally' in regards to women in gaming. I see very problematic depictions of women throughout the industry. Gaming companies are starting to take notice thanks to all the protest. The time to shut-up isn't when we're gaining traction no matter how much people would like to have their games go back to the status quo. 

 

I'm nearing 40 as well and my life lessons have taught me something very different from you. I don't believe in staying silent as being silent has never brought about change. I'm not going to pipe down about injustices as I want to see gaming improved. 

 

Personally, I think writers, especially for gaming, shouldn't be handcuffed because something might fall outside of some random person's list of "acceptable material". "Problematic" indeed.

[R0dr1g0s]

I understand what you want to know, but I am curious why you would want to know that. Can you explain that?

Personally i dont care and when i saw the trailer i didn't realized that. But i'm seeing they are using this trailer to create and share a lot of articles rising the flag of female representativity, female leadership, feminism, equallity because the past trilogy a "generic white male" was starring the trailers, (but they're forgeting MF 2 actually had an female trailer and MF 3 had male and female version of the trailers and cinematic) bioware inclusion of moniritys an how us cis white male gamers are pissed with that.... I mean what the hell is that? this is just a fuking game with a fuking trailer that showed the fuking female default face of the protagonist first than the male's face. Why they are using this to start this gender war and political correctness bullshit over this incredible franchise? They're pushing a fight that doesn't exist, and then come the SJWs calling us "insecure white cis male" just because we don't agree with this bullshit, but they forget THEY'RE the insecure, they are creating those articles to fulfill their ego and bring this political issues of society over a game that was supposed to be just played and enjoyed.

[maia0407]

Personally, I think writers, especially for gaming, shouldn't be handcuffed because something might fall outside of some random person's list of "acceptable material". "Problematic" indeed.

When writers are literally being shackled and forced to comply, let me know. Until then, voicing opinions and voting with your wallet is hardly 'handcuffing' anyone. Writers and gaming companies can put out whatever they want. No one is stopping them. However, they don't get a free pass from criticism. That's part of living in a free society.

[Seboist]

I'm not following "they would actually talk about games more if they cared". What does that mean? Are you saying that discussing social justice issues within gaming means that you don't care about games? Again, that's coming off as telling people what they can care about. 

 

You didn't see any issues with the way Jacob was depicted? Would you like to see more POC's in games? Don't feel like you have to answer as these questions are just rhetorical. I don't want to derail the thread. 

 

I don't see  'slip-ups occasionally' in regards to women in gaming. I see very problematic depictions of women throughout the industry. Gaming companies are starting to take notice thanks to all the protest. The time to shut-up isn't when we're gaining traction no matter how much people would like to have their games go back to the status quo. 

 

I'm nearing 40 as well and my life lessons have taught me something very different from you. I don't believe in staying silent as being silent has never brought about change. I'm not going to pipe down about injustices as I want to see gaming improved. 

Given the Ed Wood level quality of ME2's writing in general, I fail to see how Jacob in particular in anything noteworthy, other than the sheer unintentional hilarity that arose from it.

 

I personally was far more offended by the giant space terminator that was created from a slurpee machine at the end of the game, which was one of the most embarrassing things I've ever seen in a game, right up there with Frankenmom in DA2.

[maia0407]

Given the Ed Wood level quality of ME2's writing in general, I fail to see how Jacob in particular in anything noteworthy, other than the sheer unintentional hilarity that arose from it.

 

I personally was far more offended by the giant space terminator that was created from a slurpee machine at the end of the game, which was one of the most embarrassing things I've ever seen in a game, right up there with Frankenmom in DA2.

I'm going to fall over dead. Right now. This is the first comment of yours that I've unblocked that I actually agree with partially.

 

But, yes, I agree, the space terminator was a travesty. I had sympathy embarrassment for Bioware when termidork showed up.   Look at that, ME2 bringing people together.

[FKA_Servo]

Personally i dont care and when i saw the trailer i didn't realized that. But i'm seeing they are using this trailer to create and share a lot of articles rising the flag of female representativity, female leadership, feminism, equallity because the past trilogy a "generic white male" was starring the trailers, (but they're forgeting MF 2 actually had an female trailer and MF 3 had male and female version of the trailers and cinematic) bioware inclusion of moniritys an how us cis white male gamers are pissed with that.... I mean what the hell is that? this is just a fuking game with a fuking trailer that showed the fuking female default face of the protagonist first than the male's face. Why they are using this to start this gender war and political correctness bullshit over this incredible franchise? They're pushing a fight that doesn't exist, and then come the SJWs calling us "insecure white cis male" just because we don't agree with this bullshit, but they forget THEY'RE the insecure, they are creating those articles to fulfill their ego and bring this political issues of society over a game that was supposed to be just played and enjoyed.

 

Maybe you shouldn't conflate "some people are talking about this" with "Shots fired, we're at WAR!"

 

Some people are just talking about something.

[EpicNewb]

Next thread

 

Why isn't default FemRyder Asian, Latina, or Black?

[SofaJockey]

Highpoint of this thread:

 

Learned what a 'cuck' was...

[maia0407]

Next thread

 

Why isn't default FemRyder Asian, Latina, or Black?

If Bioware went that far, I'd bake them cookies. That would be so great. 

[FKA_Servo]

Highpoint of this thread:

 

Learned what a 'cuck' was...

 

Are you a better person for it?

[EpicNewb]

If Bioware went that far, I'd bake them cookies. That would be so great. 

I wouldn't and I'm a minority.

 

If a game is primarily made by white guys, I expect the PC to be a white guy.

[Dalinne]

Next thread

 

Why isn't default FemRyder Asian, Latina, or Black?

 

Maybe it's just me but I see FemRyder as Latina so... 

[maia0407]

I wouldn't and I'm a minority.

 

If a game is primarily made by white guys, I expect the PC to be a white guy.

Why? I guess writing aliens is out then....

[Tex]

When writers are literally being shackled and forced to comply, let me know. Until then, voicing opinions and voting with your wallet is hardly 'handcuffing' anyone. Writers and gaming companies can put out whatever they want. No one is stopping them. However, they don't get a free pass from criticism. That's part of living in a free society.

Agreed people keep on saying to vote with your wallet so i only buy games with females im bored of playing as a male but then apparently thats not what gaming is about oh well.

[maia0407]

Agreed people keep on saying to vote with your wallet so i only buy games with females im bored of playing as a male but then apparently thats not what gaming is about oh well.

Yes, this. I only buy RPGs that allow me to play as a woman as well. I make exceptions for games like Zelda although I would love to see a female protagonist in that series. 

[EpicNewb]

Maybe it's just me but I see FemRyder as Latina so... 

I seen that type of face way more on white girls than Latinas.

[Cyonan]

If Bioware went that far, I'd bake them cookies. That would be so great. 

 

On the other hand, I don't think we should celebrate them simply writing straight white people out of the squad.

 

As much as that may sound ridiculous at a glance there was only 1 straight white male squadmate in all 3 games and I'm assuming that Zaeed is straight when I say that(which is technically not confirmed to my knowledge). I can give you 1.5 because Kaidan pulled a "I'm Bi, you just didn't ask" on us in the third game. It's entirely possible to have a Mass Effect 3 squad with zero white men on it.

 

The solution to years of straight white male being in the spotlight isn't to turn around and do the reverse. If we're going to say we should include everybody, let's actually apply that to everybody.

[EpicNewb]

Why? I guess writing aliens is out then....

I prefer playing as a human in SP.  

[R0dr1g0s]

Next thread

 

Why isn't default FemRyder Asian, Latina, or Black?

Next thread: why isn't default Ryder a transexual?

[EpicNewb]

On the other hand, I don't think we should celebrate them simply writing straight white people out of the squad.

 

As much as that may sound ridiculous at a glance there was only 1 straight white male squadmate in all 3 games and I'm assuming that Zaeed is straight when I say that(which is technically not confirmed to my knowledge). I can give you 1.5 because Kaidan pulled a "I'm Bi, you just didn't ask" on us in the third game. It's entirely possible to have a Mass Effect 3 squad with zero white men on it.

 

The solution to years of straight white male being in the spotlight isn't to turn around and do the reverse. If we're going to say we should include everybody, let's actually apply that to everybody.

That would be reverse racism.

[EpicNewb]

Next thread: why isn't default Ryder a transexual?

Yes, it's getting ridiculous.