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[SurelyForth]

Yeah another cringeworthy Shepard quote. It doesn't even make sense. None of those are exclusive to humanity.

 

Oh my god, it's a ****** joke. 

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

It wasn't that bad. He makes the tinfoil skirt joke there. Something Ashley eventually lived up to.

Shepard must have bought her dinner.

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

Oh my god, it's a ****** joke.

A cringeworthy joke then? Lol. Relax. Was it your favourite scene or something?

[capn233]

Which again, makes no sense. Humans are pretty much on one fairly ordinary planet (aside from small colonies) and yet have a bigger population than galactic empires.

 

We don't really know enough about their biology or psychology to assume that they would increase their populations at some rate similar to humans.

 

Would also need historical context to see if plagues or wars had eliminated large numbers of their populations prior to the events of ME.

 

Maybe they had common sense population control and no taboos against birth control.  Who knows?

[Xen]

We don't really know enough about their biology or psychology to assume that they would increase their populations at some rate similar to humans.

 

Would also need historical context to see if plagues or wars had eliminated large numbers of their populations prior to the events of ME.

 

Maybe they had common sense population control and no taboos against birth control.  Who knows?

The ones that really don't make sense to me are the asari and salarians. Both have been colonizing forever, the former live 1000 years and never kill each other so should have a massive population of geriatrics even with an amazingly low birthrate, and the latter lay a lot of eggs (albiet they die fast).

Turians: Seem to like killing things a lot, and judging by the Unification wars and Garrus's murderous tendencies are probably doing it to each other when they've nothing better to occupy themselves.

Quarians: Had limited habitable zones and a low population (2 billion) on Rannoch in the first place (compared to Earth), then 99.9% got genocided by toasters. The rest can't resettle anywhere to start popping out moar palette swaps, yet.

Krogan: Genophage. Also killing the crap out of each other. Also can't make colonies anymore because too dumb to invent spaceships by themselves.

Rachni: Genocided by Brotheans, then genocided by Council

Drell: 99.9% got killed by global warming. Few survivors constantly getting killed by space cancer.

Geth: dumb toasters, too busy trying to all upload into a Reaper

Batarians: Even they probably don't want to have sex with themselves

Volus: Having kids costs money

Elcor: Having sex probably takes them several years

Hanar: lol


 

[In Exile]

I thought it was well established the alliance was far smaller than the Council races population wise?

[ModernAcademic]

The ones that really don't make sense to me are the asari and salarians. Both have been colonizing forever, the former live 1000 years and never kill each other so should have a massive population of geriatrics even with an amazingly low birthrate, and the latter lay a lot of eggs (albiet they die fast).

Turians: Seem to like killing things a lot, and judging by the Unification wars and Garrus's murderous tendencies are probably doing it to each other when they've nothing better to occupy themselves.

Quarians: Had limited habitable zones and a low population (2 billion) on Rannoch in the first place (compared to Earth), then 99.9% got genocided by toasters. The rest can't resettle anywhere to start popping out moar palette swaps, yet.

Krogan: Genophage. Also killing the crap out of each other. Also can't make colonies anymore because too dumb to invent spaceships by themselves.

Rachni: Genocided by Brotheans, then genocided by Council

Drell: 99.9% got killed by global warming. Few survivors constantly getting killed by space cancer.

Geth: dumb toasters, too busy trying to all upload into a Reaper

Batarians: Even they probably don't want to have sex with themselves

Volus: Having kids costs money

Elcor: Having sex probably takes them several years

Hanar: lol


 

 

In short, the species of the Milky Way are a bunch of disturbed motherf******. Plus the inconvenience of Reapers every 50,000 years.

 

Which is why mankind skedaddled to Andromeda. The aliens there will probably make for a much better neighbourhood.

[Yermogi]

Well, Andromeda will be set in an entirely new galaxy, with new species and civilizations. Either we'll encounter species that distance themselves from stereotypes that are similar to the ones from the ME trilogy or the new species will once again be stereotyped as the race of engineers, the intellectuals, the brutes, the magical telepaths, asf.

Plus, our PC will be part of a crew who'll progressively forget about their roots as they adapt to a new life style surrounded by an environment with no familiar references. So it's likely that the krogan will be less agressive all the time, the asari won't be so stuck up, the salarian might be less concerned with his short life span and attempt a romance with a squadmate, the turian might not have a stick up his ass and might laugh a lot more, asf. Squadmates might develop common characteristics and the crew might become a more homogeneous group by Andromeda 2, I believe. If there's to be a sequel, that is.

I actually really love this idea that, by leaving their home galaxy and essentially creating new worlds and new lives for themselves, the old racial stereotypes fall away and the races form new identities that are pretty separate from where they came from. A thousand years down the road, some Andromedean Asari might return to the Milky Way and meet Asari there, only for both groups to discover that their ways of thinking are completely different, and may in fact be opposite. From what we've gathered, it seems like every race on board came with the expectation that there was nothing back home, and they all have to basically make it work now if their species want to survive. This will probably cause all the old racial tension to disappear pretty quickly; when you're trying to settle a possibly hostile planet together, you'll have to put aside petty differences pretty quickly or you won't make it.

I felt like they did push the human thing too strongly. I felt that it was very rushed how they put a human on the council so quickly, especially when a lot of the races were thinking that they shouldn't be allowed because of the human desire to get things done quickly. I felt that in a lot of ways, humans were almost like little children when it came to wanting things done. Humans are used to getting things done quickly, and getting results fast. But the other races seemed a lot more methodical and cautious, and it rubbed humanity the wrong way. I felt that there should have been more of an emphasis on humans learning more from other races, rather than just humans saving the day with their powers of improvisation in tight situations. Granted, this adaptability is a great thing, but it felt like the game was showcasing that rather than trying to compare our adaptability with the other races careful planning, which has its own positives.

[AngryFrozenWater]

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What has become of this forum? Can you please stop? You make too much sense.

[Yermogi]

What has become of this forum? Can you please stop? You make too much sense.

NEVER! The power of reasonable arguments COMPELS YOU!

[Hazegurl]

The ones that really don't make sense to me are the asari and salarians. Both have been colonizing forever, the former live 1000 years and never kill each other so should have a massive population of geriatrics even with an amazingly low birthrate, and the latter lay a lot of eggs (albiet they die fast).

Turians: Seem to like killing things a lot, and judging by the Unification wars and Garrus's murderous tendencies are probably doing it to each other when they've nothing better to occupy themselves.

Quarians: Had limited habitable zones and a low population (2 billion) on Rannoch in the first place (compared to Earth), then 99.9% got genocided by toasters. The rest can't resettle anywhere to start popping out moar palette swaps, yet.

Krogan: Genophage. Also killing the crap out of each other. Also can't make colonies anymore because too dumb to invent spaceships by themselves.

Rachni: Genocided by Brotheans, then genocided by Council

Drell: 99.9% got killed by global warming. Few survivors constantly getting killed by space cancer.

Geth: dumb toasters, too busy trying to all upload into a Reaper

Batarians: Even they probably don't want to have sex with themselves

Volus: Having kids costs money

Elcor: Having sex probably takes them several years

Hanar: lol


 

This shows why I have no problem with humans dominating so quickly.  When you take a good look at the other aliens, it's not difficult to see how Humanity could have risen so quickly.  We have the numbers, the military, we're just as warmongering as the Turians but not as ruthless as the Batarians.  We can use Biotics like the Asari, we live for a reasonable amount of time.  Not as short as Salarians but enough to get things done and possess the potential to live much longer through research. The other aliens could protest all they like but they were in no position to determine how long it should take humans to progress. Politics is not about playing fair and waiting until you get a turn.

[Barquiel]

Earth is the most heavily populated homeworld, but I don't think we're supposed to believe humans are the most populous race in the ME universe. Terra Nova is supposed to be the most populous human colony and numbers about 4 milion people. That's like nothing, the Council said in ME1 that they're responsible for "trillions of lives". On the other hand, Ilium is "one of the asari youngest colonies, of the 7th wave of expansion" and numbers 80 milion (and in one of the novels Anderson says that the Asari are the most widespread species). Older asari colonies like Lusia have populations in the billions.

[Linkenski]

It feels especially weird because I felt ME2 moved the emphasis from being about humans to being even more about Aliens thanks to a less than interesting main plot involving humanity but a much more memorable and interesting series of subplots with each of your companions. They introduced new alien raced and made characters like Tali more human and appealing and at the end of that game I truly felt like aliens were on par with humans.

 

So it felt very alienating how ME3 returned to the "humans are special" trope. I don't expect it but I would like for ME:A to be a story about humans without turning them into the most special race next to the aliens.

[Dalinne]

Earth is the most heavily populated homeworld, but I don't think we're supposed to believe humans are the most populous race in the ME universe. Terra Nova is supposed to be the most populous human colony and numbers about 4 milion people. That's like nothing, the Council said in ME1 that they're responsible for "trillions of lives". On the other hand, Ilium is "one of the asari youngest colonies, of the 7th wave of expansion" and numbers 80 milion (and in one of the novels Anderson says that the Asari are the most widespread species). Older asari colonies like Lusia have populations in the billions.

In general, the numbers of Mass Effect Universe were... a little ridiculous in my opinion.