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[ModernAcademic]

The article below presents an interesting theory about the names used in the upcoming game. It was originally published here.

What do you think of the Greek references introduced in Andromeda so far? Do you believe there's a bigger meaning behind the subtle underlying Greek theme or will it be just a minor aspect of the game?

 

Full article below:

 

"It is true that Bioware has been awfully quiet about everything lore related when it comes to the Mass Effect Andromeda story and setting. However, we do have a really interesting theory about what might have gone down, and it includes references to even Greek gods and mythology.

To start with, we know that there are going to be at least three Ark Ships in the game and that one of them is called Hyperion.

Look up that word and you’ll see that it is basically taken from Greek mythology where Hyperion was the name of one of Helios’ sons.

Helios is the Greek sun titan who flies a flaming chariot and do you remember what was playing in the background at the official E3 reveal of the game? It was “Ghost Riders In The Sky” by Johnny Cash – something people questioned and Bioware said that it had a reason.

Moving on, while it has not been confirmed officially, we know thanks to a leak that Mass Effect Andromeda story is set in the Helius Cluster, which is also named after Helios.

Now, without being too optimistic or too skeptical, we are extrapolating on this and reaching the only reasonable answer: maybe Hyperion is one of the 12 ships that were sent at the end of Mass Effect 3 to go and find a new place to build human civilization.

Now we know that all this is just mostly shooting in the dark, but surely Bioware has taken some lead from the Greek mythology in all this, and it won’t be a surprise at all if they are actually using deep references to the lore and Mass Effect Andromeda story like this.

The game will be released to PlayStation 4, Xbox One and PC in early 2017."

[Ajensis]

"maybe Hyperion is one of the 12 ships that were sent at the end of Mass Effect 3 to go and find a new place to build human civilization."

 

I don't recall these 12 ships being mentioned in ME3. Can someone remind me where that's from?

 

Maybe it's because I don't remember the above, but overall I don't see anything worthwhile here. Sure, they got some of their names from Greek mythology, but it could be as simple as 'These names just fit', like how turians are often given Latin-sounding names, possibly based on their military culture.

 

As for song choice, I'm not convinced it's referring to Helios as much as it's just about the protagonist's name (and possibly the cowboy theme that compliments the idea of exploration).

[ModernAcademic]

I don't recall these 12 ships being mentioned in ME3. Can someone remind me where that's from?

 

Maybe it's because I don't remember the above, but overall I don't see anything worthwhile here. Sure, they got some of their names from Greek mythology, but it could be as simple as 'These names just fit', like how turians are often given Latin-sounding names, possibly based on their military culture.

 

As for song choice, I'm not convinced it's referring to Helios as much as it's just about the protagonist's name (and possibly the cowboy theme that compliments the idea of exploration).

 

I don't know either where the author came up with this mysterious number (12) or where did he hear about there being any ships leaving the galaxy by the end of ME3. 

 

My guess is that he meant the hypothetical timeline created for Mass Effect which shows Shepard's actions from ME1 to ME3 side by side with the chronology of the discovery of Prothean data on the construction of mysterious devices or vessels called Arks and an evacuation plan to Andromeda should the Reapers win.

 

So the Arks were probably built based on Prothean technology. However, if we take into account how the Protheans' technology was largely based on the technology of previous civilizations, such as the Inusanon, then perhaps the Arks' technology was similar to the one of the Crucible. The construction of the Arks might've been a project developed for millions of years over many cycles, but never finished.

 

I also found the topic being discussed on reddit just a few days ago. Here's the link should anyone be interested: https://www.reddit.c...recent_trailer/

[Gileadan]

I think BioWare just likes to borrow names from ancient mythology because they sound cool.  How much celtic mythology did we get out of Morrigan and how much Norse out of Fenris?

[skuid]

Cerberus in Andromeda confirmed.  

 

IMO the song was most related to the protagonist than anything else (Ryder-Rider). We have now confirmation that there are more than one Ryder and the ship Tempest so there it is the "riders in the sky" part, but the "ghost" part I don't know (maybe related to the stealth technology of the ship?).

[ModernAcademic]

Some people on reddit got really excited and started hypothesizing the plot of the upcoming game based on the myth of princess Andromeda and the possible role the main characters will have.

 

Here's a transcript of a particular "theory" which is quite wild, but fun to read nonetheless:

 

"Andromeda isn't just a galaxy, she's a character in Greek mythology... Could this offer story clues?

In the story, Andromeda is a princess, and daughter of the boastful queen Cassiopeia.

One day Cassiopeia claims that Andromeda is more beautiful than the Nereid (sea nymphs), which angers Poseidon.

With the influence of Hades, Poseidon decides to punish Andromeda's kingdom by sending a sea monster (ahem... a leviathan) named Cetus.

In order to sate the wrath of Cetus, Andromeda must be given up as a sacrifice.

However, before Cetus can take Andromeda, she is rescued by Perseus – who earlier battled the Gorgons, and defeated Medusa.

Perseus and Andromeda later wed, and founded the city of Mycanae.

..........

So... I'm just grasping at straws here, but...

• Andromeda: The galaxy is in danger and must be rescued.

• Perseus: Humanity, and its allies, that will save the Andromeda galaxy.

• Cetus: The antagonistic force in the first Mass Effect: Andromeda game – possibly, headed by an actual Leviathan that managed to flee the Reapers eons ago.

• Poseidon: A deeper antagonists in the series, commands Cetus.

• Hades: The main series antagonist. Perhaps an intra-galactic civilization.

• Gorgons: The Reapers... Have no effect on Andromeda's story.

• Mycanae: Humanity finds a new home.

What do you think?"

 

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[Remix-General Aetius]

Hyperion was a Titan indeed.

 

And having ancient Greek names in ME is nothing new. I mean look at all the names of nebulas and star systems and clusters in ME1 alone. Theseus, Hercules, Gorgon (mermaid), Hydra, Athens, Knossos, Macedon, Sparta, Salamis, Proteus, Zakros, Circe, Nausica, Pharos (lighthouse), Phaistos, Edolus, Antaeus, Mnemosyne, Erebus......enough said!

 

http://masseffect.wi...m/wiki/Clusters

 

They're just NAMES.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

 

• Gorgons: The Reapers... Have no effect on Andromeda's story.

I'd say the Gorgon Medusa had a large effect on the story, or at least a version. Perseus cut off her head and used her stare to kill Cetus. 

 

So to use your scenario, I guess to fit we use technology we took from the Reapers to defeat the antagonists and/or Leviathan using them.

[Gileadan]

How can the name "Andromeda" offer any story clues if BioWare didn't pick the name for that galaxy? They likely just chose the biggest galaxy of the local group - every other galaxy seems small compared to the Milky Way and Andromeda.

 

https://en.wikipedia...oup_(ELitU).png

[nfi42]

Link to the 2 week old thread already discussing this.

 

https://forum.biowar...2-greek-titans/

 

If only the forum had a search function.

[ZipZap2000]

Bioware have a long established tradition of using greek mythology in Mass Effect.

ME1-2&3 has continuous story where Sovereign becomes, Nazara Sovereign.

Nazara being an ancient Greek term for 'God' IIRC (Which has bigger implications for the Geth) in 3 its further explained that Nazara wasn't the Geth's name for Sovereign, rather the name it called itself.

Cerberus anyone?

I expect Andromeda will be as riddled with this kind of thing as every Mass Effect before it.

[Hammerstorm]

I think BioWare just likes to borrow names from ancient mythology because they sound cool.  How much celtic mythology did we get out of Morrigan and how much Norse out of Fenris?

 

Well. Fenris did try to bit my hand. 

Lucky I didn't chose the name Tyr Hawk. (That sound kind of cool )

[von uber]

That mean we are going to have an economy that tanks and all the intelligent young people leave to other places?

[Wulfram]

I think BioWare just likes to borrow names from ancient mythology because they sound cool.  How much celtic mythology did we get out of Morrigan and how much Norse out of Fenris?

Well, its a bit different in Mass Effect since its in a universe where Ancient Greece actually existed. The people who named the things in universe can be expected to have some awareness of the connotations.

[LightningPoodle]

Thinking about Hyperion being the son of Helios, I'm reminded of a theory I watched recently.

 

 

In it, he talked about how N7 guy could play as our father, and provided some story plots where that could be integrated.

 

We know this game deals with family. The few details we actually have, one that stands out is 'Ryder has a family'. Family is an important part of this game because BioWare have said so.

 

Perhaps all of these little details, the Greek influence, is pointing towards family being the core of the game.

[SNascimento]

Space things just tend to have names based of greco-roman mythology, nothing new here. 

[LightningPoodle]

Space things just tend to have names based of greco-roman mythology, nothing new here. 

 

True, but you have to look at why those names specifically. They didn't just pull them out of a hat. They had to have reasons.

[SNascimento]

True, but you have to look at why those names specifically. They didn't just pull them out of a hat. They had to have reasons.

They did, and they are the same reasons why NASA named the spacecraft sent to Jupiter Juno and the missions to the Moon Apollo. It's symbolic. Or sometimes it's just cool, like Saturn V. 

[AngryFrozenWater]

In the original thread that nfi42 mentioned it was pointed out that the name of the ark in the image was Hyperion 1 and not just Hyperion. That indicated that the arks are simply numbered.

[Gwydden]

Hyperion might also be a reference to the science fiction novel of the same name. But more likely it's just a name chosen because it sounds cool, yes.

[skuid]

They did, and they are the same reasons why NASA named the spacecraft sent to Jupiter Juno and the missions to the Moon Apollo. It's symbolic. Or sometimes it's just cool, like Saturn V. 

The case of Juno probe is even funier because some of the moons of Jupiter (planet) are named after Jupiter's (god) lovers so they sent Juno (Jupiter's wife) to check in on him

[SNascimento]

The case of Juno probe is even funier because some of the moons of Jupiter (planet) are named after Jupiter's (god) lovers so they sent Juno (Jupiter's wife) to check in on him

I didn't know that until I started reading 'The Expanse' novels a few months back. A lot of the action takes place in the Jovian System, and so I came in contact with that amazing fact. Point being: read "The Expanse" series! And watch the series too! 

[SKAR]

The article below presents an interesting theory about the names used in the upcoming game. It was originally published here.
What do you think of the Greek references introduced in Andromeda so far? Do you believe there's a bigger meaning behind the subtle underlying Greek theme or will it be just a minor aspect of the game?

Full article below:

"It is true that Bioware has been awfully quiet about everything lore related when it comes to the Mass Effect Andromeda story and setting. However, we do have a really interesting theory about what might have gone down, and it includes references to even Greek gods and mythology.
To start with, we know that there are going to be at least three Ark Ships in the game and that one of them is called Hyperion.
Look up that word and you’ll see that it is basically taken from Greek mythology where Hyperion was the name of one of Helios’ sons.
Helios is the Greek sun titan who flies a flaming chariot and do you remember what was playing in the background at the official E3 reveal of the game? It was “Ghost Riders In The Sky” by Johnny Cash – something people questioned and Bioware said that it had a reason.
Moving on, while it has not been confirmed officially, we know thanks to a leak that Mass Effect Andromeda story is set in the Helius Cluster, which is also named after Helios.
Now, without being too optimistic or too skeptical, we are extrapolating on this and reaching the only reasonable answer: maybe Hyperion is one of the 12 ships that were sent at the end of Mass Effect 3 to go and find a new place to build human civilization.
Now we know that all this is just mostly shooting in the dark, but surely Bioware has taken some lead from the Greek mythology in all this, and it won’t be a surprise at all if they are actually using deep references to the lore and Mass Effect Andromeda story like this.
The game will be released to PlayStation 4, Xbox One and PC in early 2017."

12 ark ship leaving at the end of ME3? Disinformation buddy. But each ship being named after the 12 Greek gods makes sense.

[Halfdan The Menace]

I believe Bioware did use every mythologies they could find, stir it up and we get the Mass Effect trilogy.

[capn233]

I fully expect us to strip down, slather on the olive oil, and start wrestling on Tempest.