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[TheSauja]

From what I've peaced on my Warden in Inquisition, some time after the blight he went on a mission to end the Calling permanently. For most of this time he's been in Orlais. Fine. But is it really that easy for COMMANDER of the Grey to be like: ''mkay, mates, I'm off on a mission, dont ask for me, dont look for me, I'll do it one man army style, peace, I'm out!'' just like that? Wouldn't it make sense for him to use help from his fellow Wardens? It isn't like the Blight was ravaging during these 5 years and Wardens had any better purpose than to SAVE THEIR MISERABLE ARSES! Although, I guess, it might have to be something about Warden neutrality and 100% devotion to the preparation and stopping the Blight, right? I can see how someone from Weishaupt could declare it as ''unnecessary distraction''. Or am I just wrong? Anyone knows? Aaaaaand, Im pretty sure we are getting to see our Warden in the future any time soon. It's inevitable with this whole subplot. Yaay. 

[Pokemario]

Leliana said that all of the Wardens from Ferelden disappeared, so I just assumed they went with their Commander.

[TheKomandorShepard]

That is a lot misinformation that i don't know where to start it.Who has been in Orlais most of the time, the warden because im pretty sure it ain't true, s/he was warden commander in Ferelden.Yes, it is that easy considering, that WC have little to none supervision from current first warden.Help with what? We don't know even what the warden is exactly doing and if any armed forces are necessary.Plus, maybe grey wardens don't want a cure because it would demolish whole you are in it for life and the calling that allows them to send people on suicidal charge against darkspawn. I wouldn't also count on the warden return , no voice and no personality.They failed with Hawke (that had voice and 1 of 3 personalities) and they acknowledged it.

[TheSauja]

That is a lot misinformation that i don't know where to start it.Who has been in Orlais most of the time, the warden because im pretty sure it ain't true, s/he was warden commander in Ferelden.Yes, it is that easy considering, that WC have little to none supervision from current first warden.Help with what? We don't know even what the warden is exactly doing and if any armed forces are necessary.Plus, maybe grey wardens don't want a cure because it would demolish whole you are in it for life and the calling that allows them to send people on suicidal charge against darkspawn. I wouldn't also count on the warden return , no voice and no personality.They failed with Hawke (that had voice and 1 of 3 personalities) and they acknowledged it.

 

Alistair ( when i meet him at the cave) says WARDEN has been doing his quest somewhere in Orlais for the most part of this 10 years. 

TBH I somewhat enjoyed Hawke for what it was.

And if they dont want the cure, that is the point where we get to be part of it sooner or later in the next installments!

Ok maybe, First Warden has no input whatsoever, but Commander can't just abandon his men like that... What, you wake up, he's gone. ''Oh okay, lets elect a new one or whatever. I'm pretty sure such actions of a high standing figure should bear at least some repercussions. In the game Alistair explains it by saying: Oh, he got bored of keeping this world safe and wanted to reverse the Calling, so he did that... THUG LIFE!''

[Asha'bellanar]

Leliana said that all of the Wardens from Ferelden disappeared, so I just assumed they went with their Commander.

Yes. I assumed that at at least some went with HoF, mostly because I want to believe that.

 

Reasonably, you could assume that whomever was left in Ferelden was summoned to Orlais by Warden-Commander Clarel, since Warden Alistair says very clearly that every Warden in ORLAIS started hearing the Calling and didn't mention anything about Wardens in Ferelden, while in the same discussion he admits that he's hearing the Calling as far east as Crestwood, so I don't know there. Seems like typical Bioware doublespeak, and I'm just gonna headcanon it to mean that Alistair was describing what the Calling was like when he was in Orlais, or assume that since he WAS in Orlais, he was affected and it hasn't stopped even though he went back to Ferelden. Yeah. That's gotta be it.

 

Yes, all the Southern Wardens apparently disappeared, but the false Calling was apparently centered in Orlais (and Amaranthine, where the Ferelden Wardens are based, is close to being as far from Orlais as you can get while still being in Ferelden), so I'm going to say it was mostly affecting Orlais, and the Ferelden Wardens were ordered to go there and didn't know why, but the closer they got, the more they heard the Calling and then got caught up in the stupidity.

 

I have headcanoned what my very pragmatic and highly intelligent canon Warden-Commander is going to do when she gets back from her big trip "deep into the West" and finds out exactly what stupid **** Clarel was doing. If Clarel wasn't already dead, my Warden-Commander would personally kill her. And now, of course, my Warden-Commander is going to have to take command of and rebuild the Wardens of the entire South, not just Ferelden. Thanks a lot, Clarel, you moron.

[Gervaise]

They conveniently ignored the whole set up at Vigil's Keep.   Now it is perfectly possible for the Warden to have appointed a deputy while they went off on an important mission.   Since they had been granted a fair bit of autonomy by Weisshaupt, you can even see them not necessarily feeling the need to inform them before they left.   It is simply a bit odd that you have Wardens hunting Stroud/Loghain/Alistair in Ferelden and apparently having been active up on the Storm Coast, who had to have been Ferelden Wardens.    So the person giving them their orders ought to have been the deputy, not Clarel.   Also if the hero died killing the archdemon then I assume that the Orlesian Warden would have been commanding Vigil's Keep and doesn't go off chasing the cure for the taint.

 

However, Clarel's letter to Arl Teagan seems to completely ignore the whole DAA plotline.   She speaks of allowing the Wardens to rebuild in Ferelden.   By this time they have been doing that for 9 years or so, following on from DAA.   The Wardens were running Vigil's Keep and managing the surrounding land with the approval of the monarch and the knowledge of the Warden HQ.    They had been keen for it to be a success because of the opportunities it opened up for the Wardens both there and in other lands through the example of what they had achieved.   Yet Clarel is fixated on the example of Sophie Dryden, just as Teagan was in Trespasser.   That was ancient history; the modern example of Wardens getting involved in secular affairs was  Vigil's Keep.    All the events of that expansion were recorded in the Keep but to what purpose if it was going to be ignored entirely in the plot of DAI?

 

I haven't used my Alistair Warden yet, but how in the hell could he say that the Warden has been off chasing a cure for 10 years?    That would barely give them a chance to have drawn breath after stopping the Blight, let alone do the events of DAA.    So they did totally ignore the expansion when writing the plot for DAI.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Alistair ( when i meet him at the cave) says WARDEN has been doing his quest somewhere in Orlais for the most part of this 10 years. 

TBH I somewhat enjoyed Hawke for what it was.

And if they dont want the cure, that is the point where we get to be part of it sooner or later in the next installments!

Ok maybe, First Warden has no input whatsoever, but Commander can't just abandon his men like that... What, you wake up, he's gone. ''Oh okay, lets elect a new one or whatever. I'm pretty sure such actions of a high standing figure should bear at least some repercussions. In the game Alistair explains it by saying: Oh, he got bored of keeping this world safe and wanted to reverse the Calling, so he did that... THUG LIFE!''

 

The warden disappeared recently (or at least after 9:37) and until then s/he held position of warden commander in Ferelden, so definitely the warden didn't spend most of his/her time in Orlais.I think you misunderstood what Alistair said, he said warden might have joined wardens in Orlais (if not romanced) after disappearance what was proven to be wrong.

Good for you, for many Bioware failed when it comes to Hawke return and handling their potential personality and they even acknowledged when they were talking about warden return it as i said before.

Not rly, they don't have obligation at all to make story about it the can keep it in the open as it is done with stories of many RPG protagonists that story isn't framed anymore on screen.

 

Actually s/he can (assuming that Ferelden wardens didn't leave with them) she/he could leave advisor in charge of Amaranthine, and even if they left without a word wardens would appoint just another WC (in last flight there is new WC in ferelden).Plus, Alistair if not romanced has no idea about HoF whereabouts.

[TheSauja]

The warden disappeared recently (or at least after 9:37) and until then s/he held position of warden commander in Ferelden, so definitely the warden didn't spend most of his/her time in Orlais.I think you misunderstood what Alistair said, he said warden might have joined wardens in Orlais (if not romanced) after disappearance what was proven to be wrong.

Good for you, for many Bioware failed when it comes to Hawke return and handling their potential personality and they even acknowledged when they were talking about warden return it as i said before.

Not rly, they don't have obligation at all to make story about it the can keep it in the open as it is done with stories of many RPG protagonists that story isn't framed anymore on screen.

 

Actually s/he can (assuming that Ferelden wardens didn't leave with them) she/he could leave advisor in charge of Amaranthine, and even if they left without a word wardens would appoint just another WC (in last flight there is new WC in ferelden).Plus, Alistair if not romanced has no idea about HoF whereabouts.

Well, maybe i did understood it incorrect, hence the thread, ty for clarifying

I always felt its better than nothing. Some time has passed there, so i suppose new expieriences could shape Hawkes personality, cause you know, it could have taken him some more time to grasp what Anders did etc. But yeah, no radical changes. He was a rogue, just like I was in my game, that's close enough for me. It's not like he had that much time to show off his personality in few mins he had on screen considering we go though many years with him in DA2, thats not up for comparison! Besides, when you make decisions AS Hawke, thats different. He wasn't in charge for this ride, much more of an bystander. That takes away from the whole thing. I feel more people should be happy with what we got. And if we dont see HoF that will be a MASSIVE dissapointment for me. We can generate his looks like we did in DAI before meeting Hawke, the voice is unimportant, since in DAO he didnt had any, hell i wouldnt give a **** if he was mute when i see him. I just want to see him acknowledging how badass of a son he has. Please! From that point on, he can die if he wants to, his purpose would be served, and we continue on with Kieran being a MASSIVE powerhouse in the next games. How stupid would it be if my warden dies never seeing his son, yes I know Morrigan has always wanted distance, but hey, ******, step aside, that's mighty blood of house Amell (Human mages from DAO) running within him! (BTW Hawke is relative to Amells). You get where I'm going. Hawke stays relevant in the story and we have our Skywalkers of Thedas far far away set. However, I know this is never happening, because not everyone banged Morrigan at the end of DAO (((((((((((((((((( But the man can dream!

It's just barely believable when the trusty Alistair isn't at the Wardens side. I mean he is THE Chewbacca of Dragon Age, is he not?!

[Gervaise]

Er, did Morrigan not tell you that she was in touch with the Warden and that she and Kieran were going to join him once Corypheus had been defeated?   I know we didn't actually get to see the Warden but I was happy that we at least got a letter from him/her and on my play throughs  I was pretty much happy with the information:

 

Morrigan romanced and Kieran: They are going to join him.

Morrigan and non-OGB Kieran:  Morrigan regrets parting with Warden on bad terms, so hopeful she may go looking for him

Leliana (not Divine) : Warden returns and they take up residence in her childhood home on the Waking Sea (the only annoying thing is no mention of the cure)

Zevran: They are off together looking for the cure.

 

The only thing I would like resolution on is whether or not the Warden did/does find the cure for the Taint.    I have a feeling that this may prove important in future plotlines so who knows, we could see the Warden again.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Well, maybe i did understood it incorrect, hence the thread, ty for clarifying

I always felt its better than nothing. Some time has passed there, so i suppose new expieriences could shape Hawkes personality, cause you know, it could have taken him some more time to grasp what Anders did etc. But yeah, no radical changes. He was a rogue, just like I was in my game, that's close enough for me. It's not like he had that much time to show off his personality in few mins he had on screen considering we go though many years with him in DA2, thats not up for comparison! Besides, when you make decisions AS Hawke, thats different. He wasn't in charge for this ride, much more of an bystander. That takes away from the whole thing. I feel more people should be happy with what we got. And if we dont see HoF that will be a MASSIVE dissapointment for me. We can generate his looks like we did in DAI before meeting Hawke, the voice is unimportant, since in DAO he didnt had any, hell i wouldnt give a **** if he was mute when i see him. I just want to see him acknowledging how badass of a son he has. Please! From that point on, he can die if he wants to, his purpose would be served, and we continue on with Kieran being a MASSIVE powerhouse in the next games. How stupid would it be if my warden dies never seeing his son, yes I know Morrigan has always wanted distance, but hey, ******, step aside, that's mighty blood of house Amell (Human mages from DAO) running within him! (BTW Hawke is relative to Amells). You get where I'm going. Hawke stays relevant in the story and we have our Skywalkers of Thedas far far away set. However, I know this is never happening, because not everyone banged Morrigan at the end of DAO (((((((((((((((((( But the man can dream!

It's just barely believable when the trusty Alistair isn't at the Wardens side. I mean he is THE Chewbacca of Dragon Age, is he not?!

Poor featuring character is worse than no featuring character at all.Hawke behavior in Dai could be contradictory to his behavior in Da 2, for an example his strong hatred of blood magic is hypocritical if Hawke was blood mage himself or supported Merril, therfore bioware failed to properly import player character. As i said Hawke was had 1 origin , 1 race, voice and 3 possible personalities and traits on his own, The warden has no voice (that would be required as npc), no personality and traits outside those that players created (therfore it makes it impossible to give him a personality without destrying a lot of wardens in the process),7 origins (human mage and elf mage are somewhat separate) and 3 races.

 

Brining back the warden would inevitability backfire due to above so unlikely they will bring them for fan-service reason when they have little to gain and a lot to lose.Plus, Kierran is now pretty much irrelevant, he has no old god soul anymore and that he is optional in dragon age pretty much kills his relevance.

 

All companions left The warden and Hawke side after their games and went their own way, only exception are Varric and romanced Zevran.

[Pasquale1234]

That's one of the downsides of a series of games such as this - whatever the writers write about your characters from previous games can walk all over your headcanon.

My headcanon for my primary (canon) HoF post DAO goes like this:

-- She & Leliana spent ~ 6 months at Highever, helping brother Fergus bury family members and get the Terynship operating smoothly again.
-- Given that Amaranthine was already part of the Highever Terynship, it was fairly easy for her to start influencing / cleaning it up post-Howe, even before officially taking over the Arlship there.
-- They (GW & Fergus) set aside some pristine lands w/ plenty of fresh water as nature preserves, and allowed the Dalish to occupy it. They also worked to improve conditions in the Terynship's alienages and established labor laws to improve working conditions. Finally, they brought forth some new commerce laws designed to hold merchants responsible for substandard goods, and issued more merchant's licenses to increase competition and provide more opportunities.
-- Events of DAA, and successfully rebuilding the Wardens in Ferelden.
-- Some versions have her enjoying a royal niece and nephew, as brother Fergus successfully courts Queen Anora and has children. In that case, she also takes over more responsibilities of administering the Terynship, since Fergus has royal duties to attend.
-- She continues to correspond w/ Leliana, and they get together as their schedules permit.
-- Over time, the taint starts to break down her body's processes, and her wounds start taking longer and longer to heal.
-- She & Leliana decide they'd like to grow old together, so she turns over Amaranthine to a trusted Seneschal (to be overseen by Fergus), and command of the GW to a strong leader in their ranks, and heads west to find a cure. This happens right before the events of DAI.

So - the bits in Clarel's letter about rebuilding Wardens in Ferelden, I just sort of write off as a combination of blood-magic mind control and an attempt to manipulate Teagan into thinking ill of the HoF's activities.
 

It's just barely believable when the trusty Alistair isn't at the Wardens side. I mean he is THE Chewbacca of Dragon Age, is he not?!

Not so much in my world. He was a drunk in Kirkwall until Teagan came to collect him. In some worlds he's the King of Ferelden, in others he sacrificed himself to slay the archdemon.

[Pasquale1234]

Poor featuring character is worse than no featuring character at all.Hawke behavior in Dai could be contradictory to his behavior in Da 2, for an example his strong hatred of blood magic is hypocritical if Hawke was blood mage himself or supported Merril, therfore bioware failed to properly import player character. As i said Hawke was had 1 origin , 1 race, voice and 3 possible personalities and traits on his own, The warden has no voice (that would be required as npc), no personality and traits outside those that players created (therfore it makes it impossible to give him a personality without destrying a lot of wardens in the process),7 origins (human mage and elf mage are somewhat separate) and 3 races.

I've always been a bit afraid of any sort of cameo of the HoF for the reasons you mention here. They'd likely butcher a lot of people's characterizations and roll right over their headcanon.

That said, I think I could deal. If the HoF they present really doesn't fit with any I've ever played - or could see myself wanting to play - I'd just treat it as an alternate universe.

[Ghost Gal]

They do this with all Wardens, regardless of what the game says you were doing, or what you headcanon your Warden was doing.

[Qun00]

Alistair ( when i meet him at the cave) says WARDEN has been doing his quest somewhere in Orlais for the most part of this 10 years.
TBH I somewhat enjoyed Hawke for what it was.
And if they dont want the cure, that is the point where we get to be part of it sooner or later in the next installments!
Ok maybe, First Warden has no input whatsoever, but Commander can't just abandon his men like that... What, you wake up, he's gone. ''Oh okay, lets elect a new one or whatever. I'm pretty sure such actions of a high standing figure should bear at least some repercussions. In the game Alistair explains it by saying: Oh, he got bored of keeping this world safe and wanted to reverse the Calling, so he did that... THUG LIFE!''

Uh... most of the last decade? No, the Warden ally says the HoF disappeared recently.

[Asha'bellanar]

Nobody in DA:I claims that the HoF has been missing for ten years. Leliana says it's been "some time" since she heard from them, romanced Warden Alistair makes it clear that they were mostly together, though often separated by duty and that they had been together when they got word about "a lead" regarding the cure for the Calling at the same time that Alistair was searching for information on Corypheus and they didn't feel they could afford to let either thing go unattended so they decided to each do one thing (he the work on Corypheus, she the cure for the Calling).

 

Romanced Warden Alistair, in DA2, mentions his love when he gives Hawke some magical item (can't remember now what it is, don't care enough to look it up), and he says she won't mind and would want Hawke to have it because she has a knack for finding stuff like this. That happens during the Qunari battle in Kirkwall, which is at the end of Act 2 and would be approximately three years after the end of the Blight. So while it's not written in stone, I interpret that to mean that the Warden was apparently still around then, too, even if not directly present in Kirkwall. Romanced Alistair certainly seems pretty cheerful when he mentions his love, so I presume they're still together (just not at that precise moment, because you can be together without constantly being together). Admittedly, this could be argued as being inconclusive, but it's still a bit of a hint that the HoF was not gone for "ten years".

 

Even without the romance element, two years after the end of the Blight the HoF was around to chase off after Morrigan (i.e., the Witch Hunt DLC), so they must have been around somewhere up until then (after which time they MIGHT have disappeared, or not). So basically, they've been missing for "a while", that being anywhere from about eight years to maybe a year or so.

 

I think this is left purposely and deliberately vague to allow for flexibility with the HoF's story. At some point after taking over as Warden-Commander six months after the Battle of Denerim and probably after the Qunari uprising in Kirkwall (which was about two years after the Battle of Denerim), the HoF decided s/he didn't want to die insane in the Deep Roads and found some promising lead and went off to search for a Cure. It might have been that they disappeared after they followed Morrigan into the Eluvian (which was two years after the Battle of Denerim) or it might have been before the Conclave (seems reasonably likely), or somewhere in between. But it was definitely not "ten years" because that doesn't allow enough wiggle room to allow for the events of the DLC and doesn't mesh with other elements of the story, anyway.

 

EDIT: I just read this over again. Maker, I'm such a nerd.

[Gervaise]

The magical item that Alistair gives is a heart locket.   I think it was even called the "Sacred heart", or something similar.   I was really touched that he gave it away to help Hawke.

 

I still want to know why Clarel's letter and Teagan act as though there was no Grey Warden initiative authorised by the monarch of Ferelden that they should get involved in secular affairs.   This was with the authorisation of GW HQ and they absolutely wanted it to be a success, so threw their weight behind making sure it did so.    Even if Clarel had been the Orlesian Warden instructed to take over, why was she appealing to Teagan for permission to rebuild the Grey Wardens in Ferelden when the organisation had been doing that with the official approval of the monarch for several years, possibly even 9 years, before she made this request?     In any case, was she in charge of the Wardens in Ferelden or Orlais.   If the former, what was she doing controlling the Wardens in Orlais, if the latter who was in charge of the Wardens in Ferelden?    It is ridiculous that the HQ would think that someone could cover such a large area and give proper attention to the important task of running Vigil's Keep. 

 

In fact, if you think about it, the first port of call when trying to find out what was going on, should have been Vigil's Keep.   The place needed more than simply Wardens to run it, so the non-Wardens at least should have been able to throw some light on the absence of Wardens.   Secrecy or no secrecy they had a duty to at least inform the monarch if they were all suddenly leaving for elsewhere. 

[dragonflight288]

I headcanon Nathanial, Sigrun, Oghren and Velanna following my Warden to search for a cure for the calling.

[Pasquale1234]

Even if Clarel had been the Orlesian Warden instructed to take over, why was she appealing to Teagan for permission to rebuild the Grey Wardens in Ferelden when the organisation had been doing that with the official approval of the monarch for several years, possibly even 9 years, before she made this request?

As I mentioned above, I tend to write that off as a combination of blood-magic mind control (of Clarel) and an attempt to manipulate Teagan into believing the HoF's work to rebuild wardens in Ferelden inadequate.
 

In any case, was she in charge of the Wardens in Ferelden or Orlais.   If the former, what was she doing controlling the Wardens in Orlais, if the latter who was in charge of the Wardens in Ferelden?

Clarel is the Warden-Commander of Orlais. The HoF is still designated as the Warden-Commander of Ferelden (and signs the letter accordingly). I'm guessing the HoF left the Seneschal and probably a GW Captain in charge of the keep when s/he took off in search of a cure for the Calling.
 

In fact, if you think about it, the first port of call when trying to find out what was going on, should have been Vigil's Keep.   The place needed more than simply Wardens to run it, so the non-Wardens at least should have been able to throw some light on the absence of Wardens.   Secrecy or no secrecy they had a duty to at least inform the monarch if they were all suddenly leaving for elsewhere.

Yeah, the whole thing was... not very well-written.

I'm guessing that due to the effects of the Calling perhaps combined with some blood magic mind-control, all of the wardens throughout Ferelden left their posts / other activities to join Clarel's people. Unless the Seneschal and any other non-GW personnel at the keep were also under the influence of blood-magic mind control, their activities should have been reported to the crown. Actually, the HoF leaving responsibility for the Arling of Amaranthine to someone else should have been reported to the crown - so I think the writers left some pretty big holes in this plotline.

[thats1evildude]

There's a letter from Leliana that comes with Blackwall's personal quest which suggests Vigil's Keep is empty.

"As I mentioned, the Grey Wardens seem to have been disappearing. The keeps at Amaranthine, Montsimmard and Val Chevin are all empty. Ambassador Montilyet dispatched a message to the First Warden in Weisshaupt, but I do not expect a quick response, if we receive one at all."

The rest of the note talks about Blackwall helping refugees in the Hinterlands.

[Gervaise]

I must have missed the bit about Amaranthine.   Even so, whatever happened to all the non-Grey Warden personnel?    Perhaps it should have said "empty of Grey Wardens".    I can understand them being under an oath not to reveal to anyone about the (false) Calling because they wouldn't want panic to ensue in the population but I still think that the monarch of Ferelden should have been informed they were leaving on "Grey Warden business".    They probably wouldn't bother with the monarch of Orlais because of the civil war.

[Asha'bellanar]

I completely agree that the way they handled "Where are the Grey Wardens of Ferelden" was ham-handed and entirely unsatisfying. Basically, it was too hard to incorporate, so they did a typically Bioware thing and just threw away bits of their own established story and half-arse muttered something about how it didn't matter because Reasons.

 

I will continue to headcanon a more satisfactory explanation, because Bioware did not provide one and probably never will. (Just as they'll never explain how Nathaniel Howe had two paternal grandfathers or how Leliana managed to be the Shroedinger's Cat of Thedas because she can be simultaneously dead and not dead, or how Jowan managed to escape the Tower without even ONE Templar aiming a bow at him as he swam or rowed across a dangerous body of water and a bunch of other annoying lore strangulations and retcons and so forth). It's best not to stew over it.

[Bardox9]

Leliana said that all of the Wardens from Ferelden disappeared, so I just assumed they went with their Commander.

I always assumed this as well. That when Cory starting his fake Calling, that the Warden collected every warden in his command and went in search of a way to stop the Calling all together. Avernus found a way to fight off the taint, so it is possible.

 

As for the "disappeared" part,  the connection between the Wardens and the Darkspawn is a tightly held secret. All anyone knows is a half truth, that the Wardens are immune to the taint. Resistant would be a more accurate description. The corruption is slower, but they still become ghouls with enough time. It should not be shocking that they would not broadcast  what they were doing nor why.

[Qun00]

I think the Warden that romanced Morrigan and entered the eluvian with her is harder to explain.

Apparently you can spend years away in a parallel dimension and still keep your title as Warden-Commander (signed in that letter).

Sounds like an easy job.

[Tidus]

Since BW blew it I will straighten things out.

 

I know where my wardens are at..Tidus stays drunk in the Denerim Alienage, Camin married a Denerim human merchant  and Chasha died of a fever 5 years after the blight. You see after Vigil's Keep all three of my wardens quit the  Grey.

 

I got that idea from DA:A when Camin  (HoF) told King Alistair she did not want to return to the GWs.

[thats1evildude]

Well, in my case, Nathaniel went to the Free Marches, Anders is dead, Justice is gone, Sigrun is dead and Velanna disappeared. That leaves Oghren, who has a letter in WOT Vol. 2 strongly suggesting he knew he would die soon.