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[In Exile]

A distribution of skills is all a class should be. They shouldn't constrain personalities at all.

 

I'm all for a classless system. And I agree with you that even if you have one, there's no reason to tie it to a personality type.

[KirkyX]

I'm all for a classless system. And I agree with you that even if you have one, there's no reason to tie it to a personality type.

Exactly. Now, if you want to roleplay your character in-line with whatever you expect from their class, personality wise, then fair enough - I sometimes like to make my Vanguards a little more reckless/aggressive than my other Shepards, for example - but the game shouldn't force you to do so.

[Shechinah]

Exactly. Now, if you want to roleplay your character in-line with whatever you expect from their class, personality wise, then fair enough - I sometimes like to make my Vanguards a little more reckless/aggressive than my other Shepards, for example - but the game shouldn't force you to do so.

 

And sometimes I use the sniper rifle as a shotgun! It works surprisingly well.
 

[Spirit Vanguard]

Nonsense. Conrad will be there... just wait.

 

Conrad could be Ryder's link to Shepard:

"You don't know about Shepard, the first human Spectre? Oh, we're best friends. I could tell you everythi--" *is killed by plot violence and the game begins*

Or better yet, the entire trilogy could just actually be a comic book that Conrad wrote, which Ryder is reading in the beginning.  i secretly want this to happen.

[themikefest]

I wouldn't complain if Conrad is seen in the next game. Good character

[Sylvius the Mad]

And sometimes I use the sniper rifle as a shotgun! It works surprisingly well.

It's not that surprising. Unless the game models the spray from a shotgun such that we can hit multiple targets at once, a sniper rifle is just as effective at short range.

[tehturian]

I like to see ME3 made for the folks who played ME1/2 since the ME3 that was released was made for people that never played the previous games especially since its the best place to start playing a trilogy

 

My personal preference is for them to redo the trilogy

That was just a PR slogan. 

 

It really wasn't. 

[Oldren Shepard]

She/he won't be start as a hero, she/he will earn that place, one of the things that make Mass Effect so unique is that you could import your character and the decisions she/he made if it weren't a trilogy would not be a Mass Effect game.

[straykat]

That was just a PR slogan. 

 

It really wasn't. 

 

A PR slogan they built the actual game around. It's a bad followup for anyone who liked the ME2 squad (or mission).

[Oldren Shepard]

 

The personal backgrounds could provide some humanizing options so it didn't help that I felt the personal backgrounds more or less disappeared besides a few nods. Sole Survivor!Shepard goes right on to work with Cerberus without much more than a mention as far as I could recall. Even if Shepard was forced to work with Cerberus, this should have given way to some good options if Shepard's personal mission was accomplished in the first game. Spacer!Shepard does not even have the option of having a conversation with their mother in Mass Effect 2 despite the fact that they've been dead and their mother learns Shepard is alive and apparently knew how to get a message to the Normandy.

 

Additionally, there were Shepard's lack of reaction to not only having died but also having been resurrected. I thought this was a bit of a thing that called for a few options including some to have more of a reaction.  

Like the option of brainwash the Geth or not, a lot of missed opportunities.

[straykat]

Yeah, the backgrounds weren't done justice. I kind of.. just rationalized the best of bad options with Sole Survivor by just making my Shepard almost too pragmatic for his own good. And he somehow deluded himself into thinking he got something good out of the experience. Kind of like you can first tell Jack, when she wants to blow up the Cerberus base. 

 

"You enjoy what you became."

 

But she comes right back with a good reply.. "They didn't give me a choice."

[goishen]

Yeah, the backgrounds weren't done justice. I kind of.. just rationalized the best of bad options with Sole Survivor by just making my Shepard almost too pragmatic for his own good. And he somehow deluded himself into thinking he got something good out of the experience. Kind of like you can first tell Jack, when she wants to blow up the Cerberus base. 

 

"You enjoy what you became."

 

But she comes right back with a good reply.. "They didn't give me a choice."

 

 

It's not really making something "good" out of something "bad", though.  It's making the best of a possible situation.  Totally different. 

 

And before you call me an optimist, I'd heartily disagree with you.  Shepard sees the evil in the universe, that's one reason he doesn't argue with her.  In that moment he sees what evil pricks Cerberus are, and it makes his/her skin crawl.  TIM blames it on rogue scientists, though.  There's always a fall guy.  Whether that fall guy is a straw man or not.
 

[straykat]

It's not really making something "good" out of something "bad", though.  It's making the best of a possible situation.  Totally different. 

 

And before you call me an optimist, I'd heartily disagree with you.  Shepard sees the evil in the universe, that's one reason he doesn't argue with her.  In that moment he sees what evil pricks Cerberus are, and it makes his/her skin crawl.  TIM blames it on rogue scientists, though.  There's always a fall guy.  Whether that fall guy is a straw man or not.
 

 

I'm not sure we do disagree. I'm just saying I make the best of this, even as a player. The writing is sloppy, but this is my workaround. I don't know if it will help others who play a Sole Survivor. I make Jack the reminder of what's acceptable. In a sense, that's what her main role is anyways...whether you're a Sole Survivor or not.

 

As for Shep, I sort of just built a headcanon similar to hers, except he's just a soldier (it works even better if you were a biotic.. like maybe the pain of the Akuze incident broke a threshold on Shep's abilities).

[goishen]

I'm not sure we do disagree. I'm just saying I make the best of this, even as a player. The writing is sloppy, but this is my workaround. I don't know if it will help others who play a Sole Survivor. I make Jack the reminder of what's acceptable. In a sense, that's what her main role is anyways...whether you're a Sole Survivor or not.

 

As for Shep, I sort of just built a headcanon similar to hers, except he's just a soldier (it works even better if you were a biotic.. like maybe the pain of the Akuze incident broke a threshold on Shep's abilities).

 

 

See, I have a completely altering angle on Jack.  Same with Sera.  I see those two characters as twins, separated at birth and a long freakin' time and a whole universe apart.   I see her, and Sera, as my rock.  The thing that I base all other decisions off of.  It is no surprise that these two women were my first choices at romance. (err, when you can)  It doesn't really matter what background you choose. 

 

Except Sera never had a badass scene like this :

 

[straykat]

See, I have a completely altering angle on Jack.  Same with Sera.  I see those two characters as twins, separated at birth and a long freakin' time and a whole universe apart.   I see her, and Sera, as my rock.  The thing that I base all other decisions off of.  It is no surprise that these two women were my first choices at romance. (err, when you can)  It doesn't really matter what background you choose. 

 

Except Sera never had a badass scene like this :

 

 

I'm with you there.. Although I never romanced Sera (played male), she's still one of the few things I liked about DAI.

[Battlebloodmage]

Your decision ever matters?

[goishen]

I'm with you there.. Although I never romanced Sera (played male), she's still one of the few things I liked about DAI.

 

 

Dude, the cookies man. 

 

Google it or play through DAI as a woman.  

[straykat]

Dude, the cookies man. 

 

Google it or play through DAI as a woman.  

 

I probably won't play DAI again... I'll look it up though.

 

But yeah, Jack's kind of a rock for my character too. Even with the absence in ME3, I wouldn't hook up my Shep with others.

[KaiserShep]

See, I have a completely altering angle on Jack.  Same with Sera.  I see those two characters as twins, separated at birth and a long freakin' time and a whole universe apart.   I see her, and Sera, as my rock.  The thing that I base all other decisions off of.  It is no surprise that these two women were my first choices at romance. (err, when you can)  It doesn't really matter what background you choose. 
 
Except Sera never had a badass scene like this :
 
https://www.youtube....h?v=P383kGhUbhk

As much as I like Jack, I can never romance her because I can't help but see Shepard as her mentor.

[straykat]

As much as I like Jack, I can never romance her because I can't help but see Shepard as her mentor.

 

I see her as an equal almost, who simply didn't get the same support. Like a "What if", if things went worse for Shep.

 

It's probably why I like Anderson too, because I imagine he was the who helped Shep out of this pit once (which is also kind of cool that Kahlee and Jack end up together).

 

I've probably thought too much about this

[goishen]

As much as I like Jack, I can never romance her because I can't help but see Shepard as her mentor.

 

 

I dunno, I think you're confusing anger and hurt for being some kind of sympathetic trait that Jack would kill you for.  She's an adult, and she doesn't need, or more importantly want, a mentor.

 

EDIT :   Yah, I mean, you become that mentor in ME3, but it's not by trying to become her mentor.  It's by showing her, "Hey, this is what life looks like after tragedy."

 

EDIT :  Ugh, prolly shouldn't have done this after a few beers.   Sooooo many edits.

[straykat]

I have to say though.. in citadel dlc, if unromanced, they do seem to play up the Mentor thing. I can't do it.... although there's some good lines there (about blowing things up).

 

Much prefer it the other way.

[Gothfather]

I remember someone (I want to say it was Casey Hudson but I'm sure) saying that all the decisions both major and minor added up too over 1,000 things that had to be resolved in ME3 and that is a lot. That might be why the Jacob and Thane romances weren't continued or at the least very well (that might not have been as popular as say the Garrus and Miranda romances were). 

 

At certain point even if they had done or ever do a fourth installment in Shepard's story, I don't think something like Dragon Age Keep (and to be fair that just barely works) would have worked due to all paths, choices, outcomes, and etc, which would break any attempt to make a game with any kind of story and also would probably have made the game just to expensive to make.

 

The amount of divergency is staggering i was just using small numbers to show how just have three to five choices each game creates large combinations of choices and that is with artificiality small numbers not anywhere close to the actual ones used. This system is fundamentally limited by the reality of the maths involved. Which means if Bioware wished to continue this form of storytelling we as player must expect a "REBOOT" of the series ever 3 or so games. i personally have zero issue with this as I find games that try to extend things too long get stale.

[tehturian]

A PR slogan they built the actual game around. It's a bad followup for anyone who liked the ME2 squad (or mission).

Every other mission Shepard was bumping into characters from past games and all but one of the squadmates available were ME1 characters.   

 

That was actually one of my disappointments with ME3 actually. Too few new characters.

[Monk]

Yeaaah, it was a bit of a "reunion tour" through most of it. I mean, i don't mind seeing some of them but unless i've downloaded their DLC or romanced them, i reallly don't need to see all of them. *shrug*

 

Now, if say, my favorite aka most-talked-to/chatted-up NPC was the poster child for the new PC, i'd be [down] with that.