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[Iakus]

Reviewers have to judge a game as a whole, and as a whole, Mass Effect 3 was a very good game. I, someone who regularly castigates the endings every chance I get, enjoyed 90% of the content that was offered.

 

Which is why I don't really have an issue with how professional reviewers rated the game. They were by and large totally justified.

 

That being said, the endings were a narrative abomination, and I will continue to call them such.

Prior to the endings, ME3 could best be described as "adequate".  It had some good parts.  And unlike ME2 at least had a central story.  But it had a number of problems, not least of which was a severe restriction on player input.  ME3 played more like a shooter than a narrative based RPG

 

Mea will truly be adequate at best, The philosophy in the gaming business right now is to just make games good enough to make buyers part with their money but nothing else, No pushing the limit, No artistic endeavour ..just adequately products no more no less.

 

Yup.  Day One sales are all.  Get as many people to buy the game before user reviews are out as possible.  Caveat emptor

[Cyberstrike nTo]

Because the MP was better than the whole trilogy. People that say otherwise are just hypocrites who never even gave the MP a chance.

Why only play a single player game when you are also paying for the multiplayer? It just boggles me.

 

Here is why I don't like MP:

 

1) Because I don't want to be bothered by people and their problems.

 

2) Online gaming is cesspit of racism and every phobia.

 

3) If I want to interact with people I can go outside and talk to people.

 

4) Multiplayer modes in general are boring as hell.

 

5) Every Multiplayer Mode is pretty much same damn thing in every single game.

 

I play games to get away from people if I want to be bothered by people I can go to any number message boards.

[straykat]

 

Here is why I don't like MP:

 

1) Because I don't want to be bothered by people and their problems.

 

2) Online gaming is cesspit of racism and every phobia.

 

3) If I want to interact with people I can go outside and talk to people.

 

4) Multiplayer modes in general are boring as hell.

 

5) Every Multiplayer Mode is pretty much same damn thing in every single game.

 

I play games to get away from people if I want to be bothered by people I can go to any number message boards.

 

Is it that bad? I don't play it much either, but at least it's basically the same gameplay. It's not like it changes that.

[Halfdan The Menace]

ME1 migraine-inducing lockpick puzzle. No omni-gel, no shortcut. You have to earn the skills yourself.

[TheJediSaint]

Prior to the endings, ME3 could best be described as "adequate".  It had some good parts.  And unlike ME2 at least had a central story.  But it had a number of problems, not least of which was a severe restriction on player input.  ME3 played more like a shooter than a narrative based RPG

 

 

Yup.  Day One sales are all.  Get as many people to buy the game before user reviews are out as possible.  Caveat emptor

 

Eh, I don't think that's fair. In terms of gameplay, Mass Effect 3 was a improvement over that of Mass Effect 2, and the central narrative was much tighter.

 

I don't think the awful endings were Bioware trying to pull a fast one on their players, but a botched attempt at being open ended. 

[straykat]

ME3 was an improvement, but at the same time, it's too damn easy. And I liked the maps and longer firefights of ME2.

[Iakus]

Eh, I don't think that's fair. In terms of gameplay, Mass Effect 3 was a improvement over that of Mass Effect 2, and the central narrative was much tighter.

 

I don't think the awful endings were Bioware trying to pull a fast one on their players, but a botched attempt at being open ended. 

It takes a lot more than simply good gameplay to impress me.  You can't throw a rock without hitting a shooter in the current gaming market.  

 

And yes, at least ME3 had a central narrative.

 

While it's possible Bioware wasn't trying to pull anything on the players, I find it extremely hard to believe no one anticipated the reaction it got.

 

Heck I remember Chris Priestly recommending trying a non-import playthrough first  

[straykat]

As far as Bioware goes, Central Narratives are overrated. I've gained nothing from any of them. It was all of the other things I enjoyed. All ME2 did was recognize that.

 

edit: Ahem. Wait. Kotor was cool.

[MrBSN2017]

Here is why I don't like MP:

1) Because I don't want to be bothered by people and their problems.

2) Online gaming is cesspit of racism and every phobia.

3) If I want to interact with people I can go outside and talk to people.

4) Multiplayer modes in general are boring as hell.

5) Every Multiplayer Mode is pretty much same damn thing in every single game.

I play games to get away from people if I want to be bothered by people I can go to any number message boards.

I get a lot of stereotyping on MP games but no actual criticism of ME3MP. You haven't played it. Like the majority of others who dislike it with no actual experience, you'd realize that 90% of the MPers don't even use their mics if you gave it a shot.

And as for this bogus, I don't like people excuse. If everyone playing MP were hot chicks, you'd be on there. I think it's more a problem of "I'm closed minded and hate the unknown." Seems to be an epidemic in these here parts.

[Spectr61]

I get a lot of stereotyping on MP games but no actual criticism of ME3MP. You haven't played it. Like the majority of others who dislike it with no actual experience, you'd realize that 90% of the MPers don't even use their mics if you gave it a shot.
And as for this bogus, I don't like people excuse. If everyone playing MP were hot chicks, you'd be on there. I think it's more a problem of "I'm closed minded and hate the unknown." Seems to be an epidemic in these here parts.

This.

There are miscreants in MP, but in my experience (3000+ hrs), many more that are not, and some that are downright fun and illuminating.

The co-op nature makes it so, plus the difficulty on higher levels reinforces teamwork.

[Iakus]

I get a lot of stereotyping on MP games but no actual criticism of ME3MP. You haven't played it. Like the majority of others who dislike it with no actual experience, you'd realize that 90% of the MPers don't even use their mics if you gave it a shot.

And as for this bogus, I don't like people excuse. If everyone playing MP were hot chicks, you'd be on there. I think it's more a problem of "I'm closed minded and hate the unknown." Seems to be an epidemic in these here parts.

Played it.  Didn't like it.  Not because of people (though I don't like having to interact with people to get a better outcome in a SP game) but because it was so freaking BORING!  It's just a shooting gallery with the occasional extra requirement.  

 

When EC came out I dropped it and never looked back.  And what worries me is Bioware will try (again) to "encourage" people to do MP by providing SP rewards.

[AngryFrozenWater]

In MEA MP you can finally meet all those nice and enlightened BSN forum members in a friendly atmosphere.

 

"Sir?"

"Yes?"

"Pardon me, but may I kill you?"

"Of course, my dear man. Don't hesitate."

"Well... Erm..."

"Spit it out."

"You are quarian and I happen to be human."

"And?"

"Well, I wouldn't want to give the impression that I was racist."

"Good point. Hang on. I can fix that."

 

*quarian player commits suicide*

[havox2]

I'm so excited about the move to Frostbite, I'm so looking forward to everyone having the plastic hair.

I can see it now, game starts with 10 minutes of unskippable custcenes, followed by DA:I character editor, with race slider locked in to human - insufferable interface to navigate with kb/m, no body options, green swirly background.

After struggling for 15 minutes to create something that's not completely hideous and pressing Accept, the abomination unleashed upon the world will look nothing like what it looked like in the editor.

Mirror of transformation will be released a year after the launch, as a part of paid DLC.

The game will require three GTX 1080s to reach 20fps on High settings until patch 1.07 (after that only two).

[ZipZap2000]

I get a lot of stereotyping on MP games but no actual criticism of ME3MP. You haven't played it. Like the majority of others who dislike it with no actual experience, you'd realize that 90% of the MPers don't even use their mics if you gave it a shot.

And as for this bogus, I don't like people excuse. If everyone playing MP were hot chicks, you'd be on there. I think it's more a problem of "I'm closed minded and hate the unknown." Seems to be an epidemic in these here parts.

Man are you desperate to get to someone to care that you like the MP or what? I played it for 3 years and it was good, nothing earth shattering. You people act like the MP was a romance option and someone just insulted your LI.

Only its worse because there's a fairly good chance you've put more hours into the game than you have putting it in to an actual female.

Your kind might actually be worse than Talimancers.

*Pours a little Ryncol on the curb for 8 controllers and a 64bit Golden Eye cartridge*

[MrBSN2017]

Man are you desperate to get to someone to care that you like the MP or what? I played it for 3 years and it was good, nothing earth shattering. You people act like the MP was a romance option and someone just insulted your LI.

Only its worse because there's a fairly good chance you've put more hours into the game than you have putting it in to an actual female.

Your kind might actually be worse than Talimancers.

*Pours a little Ryncol on the curb for 8 controllers and a 64bit Golden Eye cartridge*

If you're a hot chick then yes, by all means awe at my MP prowess, otherwise disregard. Seriously though, the only thing I'm looking forward to is the MP in Andromeda. ME3MP is the only game I play anymore so MEAMP is my only chance at a future in the gaming community. I might speed run the SP if I get curious about the new races. Probably just google it or ask someone for cliffs.

And you're a funny guy, made me laugh (bolded).

[DanielCofour]

 

-many people will proclaim ME:A has ruined the former trilogy for them.

 

 

 

 The original trilogy ruined the original trilogy, so there's not much chance of that happening. 

[straykat]

 The original trilogy ruined the original trilogy, so there's not much chance of that happening. 

 

I'm gonna agree, but probably for different reasons.

[10K]

FANSERVICE

[Vit246]

Hmmm...

 

A mediocre game that fanbois and drones will defend from criticism no matter how warranted or deserving and Bioware will either learn nothing or learn the wrong things and overcompensate never to find a middle ground?

[HusarX]

24 fps on consoles for a truly cinematic experience.

[10K]

Hmmm...
 
A mediocre game that fanbois and drones will defend from criticism no matter how warranted or deserving and Bioware will either learn nothing or learn the wrong things and overcompensate never to find a middle ground?

Nailed it.

[spinachdiaper]

No film grain option or slider like ME3!

I need more film grain dag nab it!

[spinachdiaper]

MEA will be too hindered by organizational oversight like the ME trilogy, I mean the main character is the most important person in the universe except that he/she is a middle level military grunt who has to follow orders.

Also another issue is that MEA will have a organized social order instead of a shaky and fluidly changing one. I mean it seems silly to think that a post milky way collective of beings are just going to maintain the same power structures without question.

[Gamesaredead]

1) Much shorter campaign than ME 2/3 with boring filler, and tons of story content as DLC.

2) Mac Walters doubling down on the trans humanism theme and ripping off even more from 2001 and more Cerberus.

3) The ugliest female romances ever seen in a Bioware game and the reason for this will be.. 

3) They will cater HEAVILY to "intersectional feminism" (aka feminism that got hijacked by LBGT so that they could be equated, just like race, even though both are absurd as direct parallels), because they know they have a mediocre game coming, to get a free, "all in" defense force that refuses to critique anything about the game (just look at the Ghosbuster's strategy and sites who gave that movie a 5/5 as if it was Citizen Kane when it is very mediocre) and heavily attacks anyone that does and just calls them a "sexist" as if that can be used to defend a bad or mediocre game. Only works on mental midgets and mental midgets do not buy Bioware games. They buy Call of Duty.

4) An absurdly high rated game by media who wants to push certain agendas (and that no one trusts anymore as far as review score). Just like DA:I. They will also push the "sexist" narrative. 

5) The last big budget game Bioware ever gets from EA. They will make dating games based on the IP's and characters they own for phones and tablets for the tumblr crowd. EA already has another studio trusted with Star Wars RPG's for a reason. Bioware as you knew it is dead. Probably why they have hired people like Sam Maggs who is just interested in the romances in ME games and trash fan fiction. Bioware will now produce and sell cheaply made fan fiction/slash/romance garbage.

6) Will be so bad that fans of the original trilogy will get a remaster as Bioware's last big budget operation, which is something PC Gamers already have but console players desperately want. (Hooray). Also a KOTOR remaster. The cancer invading Bioware will try to ruin those games with Wookie romances and other nonsense, but EA will put their foot down.

 

RIP Bioware. Feig said Ghostbuster's had to earn 500 million to make a profit. It is looking at around a 400 million dollar loss atm. This is what you get when targeting less than 1 percent of the population who only hold sway on this forum due to the company wanting a built in defense force and banning and kicking the people that actually bought ME trilogy in large numbers. Mass Effect Androgyny will lose the most money of any game in history. Book it. Giving the middle finger to the core audience is going to backfire BIGTIME.

[DanielCofour]

I'm gonna agree, but probably for different reasons.

 

Alright, I'll bite, what's your reasons ?