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Knowing Bioware, there likely are no consequences.

They've gotten better about decisions making an impact recently. Say what you will about ME3, but decisions made in previous games can make your life easier or harder in it. And I don't think any of us were expecting the OBG to make even as much observable difference as it already has.



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Morrigan. No way will I let my Inquisitor give up their free will and be bound to an elven goddess.
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Even with my Trevelyan Inquisitor's immense Arcane Knowledge it would have made zero sense to risk him drinking from the Well when Morrigan is so willing to do so. Plus given Morrigan's development in DAI there was no reason not to trust her from any Inky's perceptive. Given the information we obtain when you question her she wants to preserve the ancient knowledge and magicks of Thedas. My Lavellan on the other hand wasn't having any of that. I feel it's better written for Morrigan to drink anyway, with Kieran as the OGB, and Flemeth as Mythal, there was a lot of emotional depth at their reunion.

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My Human is too suspicious. My Dalish is too eager to reclaim lost heritages and legacies.



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My Human is too suspicious. My Dalish is too eager to reclaim lost heritages and legacies.

My Dalish is too paranoid of his heritage to take it so he let Morrigan take it. My Trevelyan find the well not in there interest so they don't take it either. 



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Most of my Inquisitors are more than happy to let Morrigan be the one to drink from the creepy magical pool. (Especially the dwarves. The Anchor is too much weird magical !@#$ for them already.)

 

My Dalish mage took it for herself, though, because she didn't want to let an outsider have the knowledge of her people when she could have it instead. I also have a qunari Inquisitor who drank because she can't bare to give an advantage to anyone else when she could take it herself. (She was my one and probably only protagonist who said 'I'll do it for my own power!' during her big Inquisitorial speech.) Being bound to Mythal for eternity kind of served her right.



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Someone said there was no reason not to trust Morrigan as the Quiz.

Let me try to strip away all my impressions of Morrigan from Origins. An honest try at the perspective of a Quiz who has never met her before.

  • She trusts you enough to give you info and a key she found on a dead guy even if you tell her nothing in return at the Winter Palace.
  • She is dumped on the Quiz whether you want her or not; depending on dialogue choices, you may hear that she isn't too keen on it either.
  • She brings a strange mirror and her kid to Skyhold. To be honest, her loving her kid so much wins some motherly sympathy points. But she may not even have a kid in your game state.
  • She tells you about her Mirror even if she doesn't have to.
  • Gives good cautious advice about the Arbor Wilds at the War Table prior to going.
  • But then you arrive and things get even weirder than Cory going after a mirror.
  • Then you find out he was never going after a Mirror. You wonder why she was so damn certain it was the mirror. Dude can fly. Demons can fly. My first PT, I straight up rip her a new one about being totally wrong.
  • She talks you into doing some weird Elven traditions cuz she just loves history so much and maybe it's important.
  • Then risks the only good things to come of doing the stupid tradition (the respect of ancient elves) by going crow and chasing Abelas.
  • Then demands you let her drink the well after whining about how much you should trust her by now.


Uh...no. And I even think there is the possibility of killing Abelas in all that, which would have made this scene even more different for me my first PT. So, yes, Bioware is depending on you, the player, to have previous knowledge of Morrigan to make that trust leap and let her drink. In my first play through, it backfired, because everything I knew about her made her more suspicious, not less so, even though my Warden loved her as a sister. But there are hundreds of good reasons a character could also choose to let her drink or not drink that doesn't depend on our knowing her as a character.

My first PT Human Mage drank, being too suspicious of Morrigan to not do so.

My 2nd PT human rogue who found magic to be interesting and useful at the best of times and downright uncomfortable the rest of the time did NOT want more magic permanently installed in her non mage body. And Morrigan drank.

If I play an elf, my Elf Quiz will drink every time. A mage character is fifty fifty. I cannot imagine playing a non mage non elf drinking from the well.

But I lean more towards the Quiz drinking because you get better access to info in Trespasser and Morrigan is so not coming back in DA4.


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Morrigan is so not coming back in DA4.


Psshh, she was more trustworthy than freakin Solas who refused to give you any insight into the Mythal Temple but wanted to jump down Morrigan's throat when questioning the elven legends.

I think out of all the characters besides Dorian and Solas she would be the most likely to be wandering the world and end up being involved story wise in DA4. At least more useful as a returning character than Varric's lame ass.

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The Inquisitor. For Kieran's sake.

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The choices here are to either make your PC break the "don't put that in your mouth" rule or push it onto a convenient NPC. Why is that a hard one?


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Morrigan, usually. I think she's gonna inherit her mother's godhood anyway so she's not gonna be bound to Mythal all that much. Not entirely comfortable with the idea of Morrigan holding the Inquisitor's leash though. Solasmance the answer is always to drink because paaaaathos.



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I actually had to quit playing and think things over.. In my first 5 games Morrigan drank from the well and I then asked myself why would a Dalish Elf not drink from the well? Starting in the 6th game and all following games my Elf Inquisitor drinks from the well. It only seems natural that a Dalish Elf  would never allow a hume to drink from the well.



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Morrigan, usually. I think she's gonna inherit her mother's godhood anyway so she's not gonna be bound to Mythal all that much. 

 

Maker I hope not. I would rather see Mythal's spirit destroyed for good or somehow returned to the fade than Morrigan become the next Flemeth.



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I actually had to quit playing and think things over.. In my first 5 games Morrigan drank from the well and I then asked myself why would a Dalish Elf not drink from the well? Starting in the 6th game and all following games my Elf Inquisitor drinks from the well. It only seems natural that a Dalish Elf would never allow a hume to drink from the well.


The Dalish wish to recover their history but they don't obsess over it beyond all reason.

It's like when keeper Marethari says "Finding Tamlen is more important than any lore in those ruins" during the Dalish origin.

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She talks you into doing some weird Elven traditions cuz she just loves history so much and maybe it's important.


You forgot about her lying to you about what was actually written on the tablet, until it became convenient for her to tell you.

Uh...no. And I even think there is the possibility of killing Abelas in all that, which would have made this scene even more different for me my first PT. So, yes, Bioware is depending on you, the player, to have previous knowledge of Morrigan to make that trust leap and let her drink.


There's also the possibility that she abandoned the Hero on the eve of battle against the Archdemon, and Leliana might be able to confirm that her reason for leaving was that she was denied power.

In my first play through, it backfired, because everything I knew about her made her more suspicious, not less so, even though my Warden loved her as a sister. But there are hundreds of good reasons a character could also choose to let her drink or not drink that doesn't depend on our knowing her as a character.

My first PT Human Mage drank, being too suspicious of Morrigan to not do so.


For mine it came down to the compulsion. He ran through the list of others who might drink, Solas, then Vivienne. Then when Vivienne suggested the Inquisitor he turned and said, okay I don't know who would be better suited to drink.

But then later when he and Vivienne talked about Morrigan betraying them, he told her he doesn't think it's just a possibility, he thinks it's a certainty.
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QunOO,More points to ponder on I see. I'll need to rethink my thoughts before I get there in my current game.



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The Dalish wish to recover their history but they don't obsess over it beyond all reason.

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Clan Virnehn summoned one of the Forbidden Ones in order to barter for ancient knowledge.

 

A Forbidden One. A FORBIDDEN ONE.


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The Dalish wish to recover their history but they don't obsess over it beyond all reason.

It's like when keeper Marethari says "Finding Tamlen is more important than any lore in those ruins" during the Dalish origin.

Some Dalish don't obsess over it beyond all reason.


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The Dalish wish to recover their history but they don't obsess over it beyond all reason.

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And her whole clan thought it was a bad idea.
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Morigan because then she is bound to her mother and/so Solas.



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And her whole clan thought it was a bad idea.

 

Her whole clan knows nothing like Jon Snow.



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And her whole clan thought it was a bad idea.

Merrill didn't, and another clan went along with their Keeper doing arguably dumber for a much greater gain. Then there's the Dalish teenager in Inquisition who bleeds himself dry trying to reclaim a trinket from the Dales. I get that there are some Dalish who are smarter than that (in fact Mihris, who went along with the Forbidden one summoning, winds up being smarter than that) but the fact remains that enough Dalish aren't that Tidus's idea is a legitimate one. (Though it's also overgeneralizing to say that Tidus's idea is the only way to roleplay a Dalish elf. He could, for example, decide to gamble that Morrigan can take more from the Well than he can, as she claims she can. Or he can guess at the price and say "better you than me.")


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I'm doing a Dalish mage playthrough at the moment. She's romancing Solas, and I plan on having her drink from the Well, partly to get the achievement, but she already has Mythal's vallaslin (which I'll have her keep). I see her as a tragic figure, a sort of candle in the wind, so that's why I'm making that choice for this character. I don't know what the long term consequences will be, but it'll be interesting to experience it play out in the current game, anyway.

 

I can't guess what, if anything, it will mean to future games. Since they gave a choice, I'm assuming they're going to drop it completely because it would be too hard to work it into the ongoing story (that's a typical Bioware maneuver), but who knows. The fact is, there are very few decisions in any of the games that actually amount to a hill of beans in the long run. It changes dialogue, it changes cameos, it changes cut scenes, but it doesn't change much else. In fact, some decisions get completely overwritten and overridden in later games. So my guess is that there will be NO real consequences, only minor ones. 



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^The (ex)Inquisitor who drank will send your new protag a text message about it.
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