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How would you spend 12 points on an DW Assassin QF?


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PapaCharlie9

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I just completed the Way of the Assassin and have used a Tactician's amulet. I tried a few ideas, but none of them seem to hold together.

So how would you spend the points, and why?

Where I'm at now, tentatively, is starting with the assumption that I'm going to craft with Knife In The Shadows in mind. So I'll dump as much as I can into Crit Damage and not Crit Chance. That means Stealth is an obvious choice, but to my mind, so is Looked Like It Hurt. That splits my points into three trees without even touching DD yet, which is why I kind of don't like this, but meh.

I don't have any Fade-Touched mats worth mentioning yet, certainly no Hidden Blades procs or anything that does damage, actually. That kind of dampened my enthusiasm for Mark of Death. I'm also limiting myself to Tier 2 schematics and mats, for self-discipline and not running around OP.

Here's one idea:

1. Flank Attack
2. Flank Attack upgrade / Skirmisher
3. Twin Fangs
4. Twin Fangs upgrade
5. Stealth
6. Stealth upgrade
7. Caltrops (such a waste)
8. Looked Like It Hurt
9. Hidden Blades
10. Hidden Blades upgrade / Overkill
11. I Was Never Here
12. Knife In The Shadows

Eventually, I intend to end up with actionhero's build, but I'm a long way from that just yet.

https://forum.biowar...e-all-the-time/

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Bigdawg13

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I'd probably follow this guide.

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That being said, you could maybe not invest in Shadow Strike and swap those points into the assassin tree.  *shrug*

 

*EDIT*  

 

I just realized that build doesn't include flank attack and skirmisher.  You may want that instead of Shadow Strike for more stealth.  Assuming you are playing on nightmare with trials on and restricting golden nug usage, you won't be one-shotting many enemies from stealth...yet.  So you may need flank attack.



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PapaCharlie9

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That's from this, right?

http://dragoninquisi...sin_Rogue_Build

A guy on Reddit pointed me to the same build.

I get the spend on Shadow Strike. I had that in my pre-specialization build. But I wonder if using a passive for stamina regen (Looked Like It Hurt) would be better than an active? Although the active does damage too.

But I don't get the spend on Deathblow over Flank Attack/Skirmisher. Spamming Flank Attack is going to crit 100% of the time. Well, the first blow will anyway.

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Bigdawg13

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That's from this, right?

http://dragoninquisi...sin_Rogue_Build

A guy on Reddit pointed me to the same build.

I get the spend on Shadow Strike. I had that in my pre-specialization build. But I wonder if using a passive for stamina regen (Looked Like It Hurt) would be better than an active? Although the active does damage too.

But I don't get the spend on Deathblow over Flank Attack/Skirmisher. Spamming Flank Attack is going to crit 100% of the time. Well, the first blow will anyway.

 

Well it's a trade off really.  Deathblow is one of the highest damaging skills (900-1200% damage depending on their health).  Shadow Strike only does 600% (after upgrade) but gives back stamina.  Twin Fangs does really good damage giving 1000% damage.  Flank attack will give 600%.  None of those account for stealth with automatic crit passive of the assassin tree.  There are pros and cons.  Actionhero gave a nice pre-trespasser summary here.

 

Flank attack can be a little glitch and I never relied on it for damage.  It's just another way to get into stealth.  I don't think a well equipped assassin really needs it for late game since killing resets stealth.  But early game it can really matter.

 

Personally I'd leave the two points for shadow strike unspent and go play a while.  If you find you are exposed too often, get flank attack with skirmisher.  Or, if you are stamina starved, give 'Looked like it hurt' passive a trial run.  Your gear and trials play a role here.  If you aren't getting enough critical hits, your stamina will not replenish and you'll regret not getting Shadow Strike.

 

*EDIT*

 

My personal opinion, is that every DW rogue I play has Twin Fangs and Deathblow.  They are just too good to pass up.  Ignoring them would be worse than a taunt-less tank or a Knight Enchanter without spirit blade pre-nerf.


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