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Usually stream DAI on the regular looking for ideas for making it harder maybe ideas for limitations and such....already beat the game Solo nightmare with all trials recorded on YouTube and twitch same name as here if you feel inclined to check it... but looking for any ideas that would make it unique and hard and such? All ideas welcome.
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Can I give you a silly idea?

 

There was a guy in WoW who was a bit of a legend.  He completed the game (well, got to top level way back when) butt naked and only using his fists.  Made me think if I ever played a new toon, I'd run around in a pretty dress and a super low level weapon and see how far I could go with it.



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Lol streaming on twitch I'll see what I can do don't think DAI let's you go commando style

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For the record no one has ever completed DAI solo at any level because in the prologue you have no choice but to use Varric, Cass and Solas. I think this was done by design just to bug people :D


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Your videos are excellent!

 

No crafting (or limited crafting) will make any DAI game more difficult. I've tried a few myself and given up on the idea around level 8-10.



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For the record no one has ever completed DAI solo at any level because in the prologue you have no choice but to use Varric, Cass and Solas. I think this was done by design just to bug people :D


That's a bit purist. Why not credit solo runs starting from the wake-up in Haven (ignoring the Prologue)? Alternatively, if you do the Pride Demon fight in the Prologue with AI disabled (cuz that's the first opportunity you even have to change AI) for your companions and/or set their healing potion reserve to max and strip their armor and weapons, so they die instantly, why can't that be good enough?

Since the game doesn't give you a better choice, that shouldn't invalidate the concept of doing a solo run altogether.

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No crafting (or limited crafting) will make any DAI game more difficult. I've tried a few myself and given up on the idea around level 8-10.


+1 for no crafting.

No Armor, No Healing

The ultimate brag run would be solo, no armor and no healing (don't take any healing potions, you only reset your healing when you go to a camp or level up).

Nightmare with just Even Ground would be fine. Adding Walk Softly kind of works against a no armor run, since you either insta-die or you spend 20 minutes+ wearing down one enemy. And it's random.

Auto-attacks only

Another idea would be: auto-attacks and focus abilities only. Would have to start from Skyhold acquired. Alternatively, auto-attacks and grenades only, no active abilities.

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That's a bit purist. Why not credit solo runs starting from the wake-up in Haven (ignoring the Prologue)? Alternatively, if you do the Pride Demon fight in the Prologue with AI disabled (cuz that's the first opportunity you even have to change AI) for your companions and/or set their healing potion reserve to max and strip their armor and weapons, so they die instantly, why can't that be good enough?

Since the game doesn't give you a better choice, that shouldn't invalidate the concept of doing a solo run altogether.

 

My statement in no way at all, states that I am not impressed or don't think it wasn't cool. It is but technically it's true and like I alluded to, I think BW did that on purpose.

 

I also am not sure if I believe him videos or not. There is so much cheating and mods out there you just can't take anything at face value. I am highly suspect of these types of claims just because I have played DAI 30+ times (albeit on a PS4 which gives me lack of control) but I just don't believe you can solo with all the trials going, all the time, (esp at the beginning) when you are so weak. If it can be done it would have to be very, very methodical and very, very slow.

 

Also, if one soloed you would be cutting out a huge amount of loot and content because you would also only be able open certain passages and so forth. You also would not be able to light veil fire if you didn't play as a Mage. You would have to skip a lot of stuff which seems counter intuitive to me because all the "stuff" adds to what makes the game a challenge and fun. I just don't see the point in doing a solo run like this other than just bragging about it which doesn't seem that admirable to me.

 

Also you can't actually have a solo run because you have to have Dorian or Cole with you on one of two quests that you must do. So again, technically it can't be done unless you mod the game. I guess you could let Dorian die and not revive him but that is so NOT in the spirit of the game (or the plot) that it makes the accomplished hollow to me.

 

Again, in Descent you also have two companions that you can't leave out as they are NPC's but still they are there.

 

All I am saying is I am impressed if he really did this, although I am doubtful its legit. But if so, good on him! Just doesn't sound like a very fun game to me. Not the in spirit of DA at all.



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Yeah no doubt just as much as I can solo I did with all trials on only missions was the ones I wasn't able to do via a few main missions and personal quest if you don't believe here's the YouTube page www.youtube.com/channel/UCNCtxpfqcDVhV6Up0O4THHg I'm a Streamer so I did it live then exported it.

But kinda looking for a new thing maybe some kinda of interesting restrictions any one of you all can help me come up With so any ideas are def welcome

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Yeah I stream from the Xbox ones no mods or any duplication for my rift Mage if you get the time look if you like you can see me resetting my abilites all the time any only have 31 abilities but I understand I seen people cheat myself but I didn't ....I'm def not bragging just wanted to see if any other bioware fanatics other then my stream followers have any ideas

One more thing soloing before have I found very easy because everything was so low that my armor from golden nug imports was so good even with iron that they were doing 2 damage to me at times and just archers and promoted mages could even touch the armor

So I'm doing a solo DW Assassin on stream at the moment and just started I'll upload them to YouTube check them out if you like any build ideas and help I'd love.....we are DAI lovers my friends which makes us all brothers and sisters in arms so thanks again for the ideas so far

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+1 for no crafting.No Armor, No HealingThe ultimate brag run would be solo, no armor and no healing (don't take any healing potions, you only reset your healing when you go to a camp or level up).Nightmare with just Even Ground would be fine. Adding Walk Softly kind of works against a no armor run, since you either insta-die or you spend 20 minutes+ wearing down one enemy. And it's random.Auto-attacks onlyAnother idea would be: auto-attacks and focus abilities only. Would have to start from Skyhold acquired. Alternatively, auto-attacks and grenades only, no active abilities.


Very cool brother thank you I was thinking restrictions from lvl 1-10 to tier 1...1-19 tier 2 ...20-27 tier 3 or maybe restricted to just bought gear and as far as chest scumming none of that and maybe doing something with my potion and bombs dunno. I was recently doing a team combat I called lead them all or fall basically it's all trials NM and Friendly Fire and no golden nug imports but Ai Abilitieswas Xed out so if I wanted to use them I'd switch to them myself kinda like mass effect 1 combat if you turn tactics off
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Your videos are excellent!
 
No crafting (or limited crafting) will make any DAI game more difficult. I've tried a few myself and given up on the idea around level 8-10.


Much appreciated my friend I love this trilogy with a passion and it's been an honor to share it via twitch streaming with you all bioware are the best and there fans and community are what keeps me wanting to make content

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My statement in no way at all, states that I am not impressed or don't think it wasn't cool. It is but technically it's true and like I alluded to, I think BW did that on purpose.
 
I also am not sure if I believe him videos or not. There is so much cheating and mods out there you just can't take anything at face value. I am highly suspect of these types of claims just because I have played DAI 30+ times (albeit on a PS4 which gives me lack of control) but I just don't believe you can solo with all the trials going, all the time, (esp at the beginning) when you are so weak. If it can be done it would have to be very, very methodical and very, very slow.
 
Also, if one soloed you would be cutting out a huge amount of loot and content because you would also only be able open certain passages and so forth. You also would not be able to light veil fire if you didn't play as a Mage. You would have to skip a lot of stuff which seems counter intuitive to me because all the "stuff" adds to what makes the game a challenge and fun. I just don't see the point in doing a solo run like this other than just bragging about it which doesn't seem that admirable to me.
 
Also you can't actually have a solo run because you have to have Dorian or Cole with you on one of two quests that you must do. So again, technically it can't be done unless you mod the game. I guess you could let Dorian die and not revive him but that is so NOT in the spirit of the game (or the plot) that it makes the accomplished hollow to me.
 
Again, in Descent you also have two companions that you can't leave out as they are NPC's but still they are there.
 
All I am saying is I am impressed if he really did this, although I am doubtful its legit. But if so, good on him! Just doesn't sound like a very fun game to me. Not the in spirit of DA at all.


So when ever I finish a fight and even tho I stream live on the Xbox one which can't mod the game only duplicate glitch I will show that I have it on nightmare with all trials and my ability points even gear .....but one thing is I hate cheaters my self that duplicate with the false titles but I'll make sure to show it all, but DAI with all trials even soloed isn't as hard as you would think importing that golden nug with every schematic makes life easier

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Can I give you a silly idea?
 
There was a guy in WoW who was a bit of a legend.  He completed the game (well, got to top level way back when) butt naked and only using his fists.  Made me think if I ever played a new toon, I'd run around in a pretty dress and a super low level weapon and see how far I could go with it.


Lol streaming on twitch I'll see what I can do don't think DAI let's you go commando style

 
You don't have to wear armor, though. Even though you are not visibly naked, having no armor equipped just has you running around in your Skyhold/Haven PJs. There is no bonus armor rating and no additional stats. Unfortunately, you can't punch things to death, but you can unequip your weapon(s) and just go with the default that every character has.

 

I think it's a fun idea, but it just seems like it would get tedious really quickly. Then again, completing the game solo with all trials on also sounds tedious, so your mileage may vary ;}.


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I just don't see the point in doing a solo run like this other than just bragging about it which doesn't seem that admirable to me.

 

It's just to give oneself extra challenge, to "see if I can," and because the option is there. There are some people who like a game, whatever that may be, and want to get the very most out it that they possibly can, especially if you've played it dozens of times.

 

Also you can't actually have a solo run because you have to have Dorian or Cole with you on one of two quests that you must do. So again, technically it can't be done unless you mod the game. I guess you could let Dorian die and not revive him but that is so NOT in the spirit of the game (or the plot) that it makes the accomplished hollow to me.
 
Again, in Descent you also have two companions that you can't leave out as they are NPC's but still they are there.
 
All I am saying is I am impressed if he really did this, although I am doubtful its legit. But if so, good on him! Just doesn't sound like a very fun game to me. Not the in spirit of DA at all.


There is also the Fade as well with Warden Person and Hawke, but I think you're putting too much thought into it. I don't think that anybody truly thinks that "DAI solo" means the entire time, including those moments when you have forced companions. The game forces those on you at certain times, but there is also a HUGE chunk of the game that you can complete entirely alone. That should be a reasonable understanding for anyone familiar with DAI watching the videos.

 

I don't think there are any specific, required plot areas that require the unique mage (veil fire), rogue (lock pick), or warrior skills (bash) abilities; they're all for bonus extras. So I think someone can get by with the class of their choice. That said, I think the mage veil fire gets the most use in the game, so the player might want to pick mage for that alone.

As for Dorian, I suspect that an unconscious, or "dead," Dorian would get revived for any cutscenes. You could allow him to die again, but at the very least he would be alive for the start of the Alexius fight. However, he would die very quickly again if you remove his armor, weapon, and don't have him specced out, as PapaCharlie9 talked about in a previous thread.

 

The better option for this play mission would be the templar path. Cole is only present for combat as a requirement for the boss fight. All the rest of the time the player can be struggling on their own, and since there is that timed component it's extra challenging!



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Lol streaming on twitch I'll see what I can do don't think DAI let's you go commando style

 

Well you can't be totally naked, just in your Skyhold outfit. :P



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Well you can't be totally naked, just in your Skyhold outfit. :P

 

There must be a mod for that. ;)


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There must be a mod for that. ;)

 

That's a section of Nexusmods I try to avoid.  I went there once.....my innocence was lost forever.  :blink:


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There must be a mod for that. ;)

 

You can change the attire to be naked, but you'll look like Ken and Barbie. It's not appealing.



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You don't have to wear armor, though. Even though you are not visibly naked, having no armor equipped just has you running around in your Skyhold/Haven PJs. There is no bonus armor rating and no additional stats. Unfortunately, you can't punch things to death, but you can unequip your weapon(s) and just go with the default that every character has.
 
I think it's a fun idea, but it just seems like it would get tedious really quickly. Then again, completing the game solo with all trials on also sounds tedious, so your mileage may vary ;}.



No armor does sound very hard I wonder if it can be done them promoted enemies are something else at times lol and that Solo run was so very tedious at times I was a mage it def helped with not having to run back and forth

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It's just to give oneself extra challenge, to "see if I can," and because the option is there. There are some people who like a game, whatever that may be, and want to get the very most out it that they possibly can, especially if you've played it dozens of times.
 

There is also the Fade as well with Warden Person and Hawke, but I think you're putting too much thought into it. I don't think that anybody truly thinks that "DAI solo" means the entire time, including those moments when you have forced companions. The game forces those on you at certain times, but there is also a HUGE chunk of the game that you can complete entirely alone. That should be a reasonable understanding for anyone familiar with DAI watching the videos
 
I don't think there are any specific, required plot areas that require the unique mage (veil fire), rogue (lock pick), or warrior skills (bash) abilities; they're all for bonus extras. So I think someone can get by with the class of their choice. That said, I think the mage veil fire gets the most use in the game, so the player might want to pick mage for that alone.
As for Dorian, I suspect that an unconscious, or "dead," Dorian would get revived for any cutscenes. You could allow him to die again, but at the very least he would be alive for the start of the Alexius fight. However, he would die very quickly again if you remove his armor, weapon, and don't have him specced out, as PapaCharlie9 talked about in a previous thread.
 
The better option for this play mission would be the templar path. Cole is only present for combat as a requirement for the boss fight. All the rest of the time the player can be struggling on their own, and since there is that timed component it's extra challenging!


Def for the extra challenge see I stream on twitch and about 700 of my 850 followers came from DAI so it gets recommended alot lol so a solo run was def in the future but I'm thinking about doing a perma death run thru each game of course nightmare but maybe make it as real as I can with Crafting and such I've had a few ideas but never put them to test yet

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That's a section of Nexusmods I try to avoid.  I went there once.....my innocence was lost forever.  :blink:


Lmao

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Has anyone tried a Mass Effect DAI run where folks specifically build their characters to replicate the different classes in ME? Haven't done it myself but the idea intrigues me. Melee rift mage with ice and fire to replicate the caster/melee sentinel class; charging bull + wrath of heaven and spell purge for vanguard, necromancer with wisps, electrical attacks and dip into ice and fire for the engineer.
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Has anyone tried a Mass Effect DAI run where folks specifically build their characters to replicate the different classes in ME? Haven't done it myself but the idea intrigues me. Melee rift mage with ice and fire to replicate the caster/melee sentinel class; charging bull + wrath of heaven and spell purge for vanguard, necromancer with wisps, electrical attacks and dip into ice and fire for the engineer.


No fully but I really love your idea here totally awesome. I myself have recently started a let's play kinda similar to me1 style combat how Shepards pick all abilities but it's DA twisted to where I must switch thru Companions to fire off there abilities. I have it to where Companions only basic attack alone