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[Zindawg]

Did we forget how Quarians are potentially extinct in some world states?

 

I imagine the ships leave for Andromeda prior to that decision

[AngryFrozenWater]

Did we forget how Quarians are potentially extinct in some world states?

No. But we leave before that. That's the whole idea to pay Andromeda a visit.

[En Es Ef Dubyu]

Did we forget how Quarians are potentially extinct in some world states?

People think that prior to ME3's reaper invasion we leave for Andromeda, between ME1 and ME2 or ME2 and ME3.

 

 

Presumably, a group of quarians will happily abandon the rest of their species to its doom- without warning them to get out of the MW galaxy which they, unlike other planet-side species, can easily do- on some mission to Andromeda knowing they will never see the flotilla or their home world again, ya know the very basis of their existence and goal in the trilogy, by the home world which they hope to see again.

[The Arbiter]

Oh. OH! My mistake. You want to have sex with Kal'Reegar. My bad...   

 

Dude... I don't need Aliens for sex in my video game library. I play for the lore and action. Right now I see Quarians as an important race in the ME universe. Devs can absolutely disagree but it would be a shame to throw them away.

 

[The Arbiter]

Hey, don't worry. All the major species will be in the game.

I hope even if most them plays a minor role

[Inkvisiittori]

My other guess is that regardless of fan pressure they will exclude turians, quarians, and geth from Andromeda.

 

You can bet that batarians, drell, hanar, elcor, volus, and vorcha won't be there either.

 

... drell...

 

Good riddance... except I always wanted a batarian squadmate. That would have been fun especially with colonial background Shep. I liked quarians and the geth too... but I will rather see many new alien races than just the old ones. I wish the salarians had been left behind... they are the most boring and one-dimensional species of the original trilogy, in my opinion (not that the others were that much better to be completely honest).

[ZipZap2000]

I see no good reason why they should exclude any of the old races in the sojourn to Andromeda. Even if they don't play a major or even minor role in MEA, having it so they are there in Andromeda leaves it open to incorporate them later if Bioware sees a need to whereas leaving them behind closes the door on that forever.

I can go without the joke races Hanar and Volus for example.

The Elcors place is debatable they could prove quite useful and have much untapped potential. Hanar are useless in all respects they cant lift more than a few grams (Which makes Zaeed a crybaby pyjak.) and cant move well outside water.

The Biotic God appeared to us through a Volus to prove that even the most pathetic race can be redeemed.


Unfortunately for them he only chose to redeem one of them. They're useless. Forget economic management, there is no economy. We're going in on stasis arks.

I see no reason not to bring Drell, other than not wanting to tip off the Hanar they're being left behind.

Not even humans are stupid enough to infect another galaxy with the Vorcha. I'm pretty sure even the Salarians would be against that.

Turians?

You're bringing Arks full of (Possibly cured depending on your theory of choice) Krogan.

They really don't like each other.

The Salarians I can see getting forgiven for not being the ones who deployed the Genophage.

Not Turians.

Do you really want to drag that war over to another galaxy? Might as well bring the Rachni.

Quarians we simply need.

They know more about surviving on Ships than anyone alive and I'd be quite shocked if they aren't there.

[LightningPoodle]

I want to see the Quarians. I want to see all of the races return.

 

Unfortunately, what I want is of no concern.

 

There is only so much that can be put into a game. Even now, at the pinnacle of gaming, there are still limits.

 

Understandably, some of the races from the trilogy will be left behind. I expect Volus, Elcor, Hanar and Batarians are definitely on the cutting mat. Quarians on the other hand. We saw enough of the Quarians in the trilogy. Enough that they became an established race, along with the Turians, Asari, Salarians and Krogan.

 

We know the Krogan, Asari and Salarians are with us on the journey to Andromeda. Three of the four Council races are on that journey. It's not a far stretch to think that the Turians, the final Council race, will also be with us.

 

Now the case with the Krogan.

 

What exactly makes the Krogan so worthwhile in bringing them to Andromeda? They don't really have spaceflight potential, instead relying on the other races. They're good in a fight but then, so are Humans and Turians. Why the Krogan?

 

There is no real reason why. None that we know of anyway.

 

However. The Krogan are one of the first images people will think of when they think of Mass Effect. Correct? Do you deny this?

 

The Krogan got the same amount of content within the three games as the Quarians did. Both races are on equal footing in terms of which had more of a role to play in the trilogy.

 

Going by that basis, I would expect the Quarians to also be in on the journey to Andromeda.

 

This would also bring a total of six races on the journey. Six is a nice number.

[Guanxii]

We've not seen any Hanar, Volus, Elcor, etc. yet either. I'm expecting this expedition to set off in the two years before the reaper war primarily to side-step player choices so we don't leave fan favorites like the Quarians, Geth and Turians, etc. behind. Speaking of the Geth you could sneak a Geth server hub on-board quite easily, imo.

[auronvigo]

In the case of never seeing home again the Quarians would be no different than anyone else on the ship.

 

If the Arks leave during ME3 than a small percentage of the troops are going into stasis already indoctrinated. The question is what happens to them after the Reapers are dealt with. Are they permanently damaged mentally? Do they stand around drooling on themselves?

 

Now the writers may completely disregard this as they don't want to touch the ending consequences yet, if ever.

[LightningPoodle]

In the case of never seeing home again the Quarians would be no different than anyone else on the ship.

 

If the Arks leave during ME3 than a small percentage of the troops are going into stasis already indoctrinated. The question is what happens to them after the Reapers are dealt with. Are they permanently damaged mentally? Do they stand around drooling on themselves?

 

Now the writers may completely disregard this as they don't want to touch the ending consequences yet, if ever.

 

Actually, that could be interesting to see. The Quarians being the only ones who aren't leaving behind a planet. Not the drooling bit.

 

The Quarians are going to be the only ones on the Ark ships to understand what it's like to leave behind your home, your planet. I would expect Quarians to have critical roles within counselling to the other races. They could help them come to grips with their new reality.

 

It could be an interesting thing to see. Quarians being, just their usual selves whilst everyone else is uncomfortable and home sick.

 

And now that I think of it. Who are better engineers than the Quarians? They'd be invaluable to the expedition. If anything goes wrong with the ships, the Quarians will know what to do to fix it.

[KaiserShep]

Oh I agree with you, perhaps I shouldn't have used the word "only". In my mind there is no question, however, that having some Quarians would be extremely helpful when you're considering living in space for an unknown amount of time. 

 

 

Really though, I want the quarians to be in this game. The fact that they can be extinct by ME3's second half is troublesome, but I'd be willing to let that one slide if there was a number of them along for the ride anyway.

[Vilio1]

The Quarians and their stupid problems were a little overrepresented in the last two games, especially compared to the citadel races. I wouldn't mind a few background NPCs, but I hope they mostly take a back seat role for awhile. 

[Guanxii]

The Quarians and their stupid problems were a little overrepresented in the last two games, especially compared to the citadel races. I wouldn't mind a few background NPCs, but I hope they mostly take a back seat role for awhile. 

 

Aren't you at all curious to see how their survivors get on in Andromeda?

 

In the case of never seeing home again the Quarians would be no different than anyone else on the ship.

 

If the Arks leave during ME3 than a small percentage of the troops are going into stasis already indoctrinated. The question is what happens to them after the Reapers are dealt with. Are they permanently damaged mentally? Do they stand around drooling on themselves?

 

Now the writers may completely disregard this as they don't want to touch the ending consequences yet, if ever.

 

​They couldn't find a suitable alternate homeworld in the MW galaxy and they've got 200 years of experience I fear they are going to be roaming the stars forever and this finding a new homeworld business is harder than one might think.

[AlanC9]

If the Arks leave during ME3 than a small percentage of the troops are going into stasis already indoctrinated. The question is what happens to them after the Reapers are dealt with. Are they permanently damaged mentally? Do they stand around drooling on themselves?

A departure this late seems unlikely. People with better eyes than mine have looked at the recent trailer and declared that it shows shuttles departing from Earth to the Arks. That puts the latest possible departure time at a couple of hours before Hackett and Anderson's conversation in the ME3 opening cinematic, based on relative sun positions.

[fhs33721]

Interesting to note that these two provide the joint 2nd most war assets in ME3 after humans (875 each in optimal conditions), but apparently it's space strippers, angry birds and krogan snacks that have unquestionable utility.

 

If this is a human run project, I'd think they'd want to bring their real friends rather than a bunch of obstructionist moochers with a penchant for condescending air quotes.

Yeah, but if you were working on a important science project like the arc, would you really want to invite the species, whos greatest achievement it was to build robots that malfunctioned badly and almost killed them all (twice)?

Of course not. Literally everyone else has a better track reckord at not being a failure at building stuff.

[Spectr61]

I can go without the joke races Hanar and Volus for example.
The Elcors place is debatable they could prove quite useful and have much untapped potential. Hanar are useless in all respects they cant lift more than a few grams (Which makes Zaeed a crybaby pyjak.) and cant move well outside water.
The Biotic God appeared to us through a Volus to prove that even the most pathetic race can be redeemed.
Unfortunately for them he only chose to redeem one of them. They're useless. Forget economic management, there is no economy. We're going in on stasis arks.
I see no reason not to bring Drell, other than not wanting to tip off the Hanar they're being left behind.
Not even humans are stupid enough to infect another galaxy with the Vorcha. I'm pretty sure even the Salarians would be against that.
Turians?
You're bringing Arks full of (Possibly cured depending on your theory of choice) Krogan.
They really don't like each other.
The Salarians I can see getting forgiven for not being the ones who deployed the Genophage.
Not Turians.
Do you really want to drag that war over to another galaxy? Might as well bring the Rachni.
Quarians we simply need.
They know more about surviving on Ships than anyone alive and I'd be quite shocked if they aren't there.

Never, ever talk bad about Zaeed.

Chuck Norris cried at his funeral.

[AlanC9]

I can go without the joke races Hanar and Volus for example.
The Elcors place is debatable they could prove quite useful and have much untapped potential. Hanar are useless in all respects they cant lift more than a few grams (Which makes Zaeed a crybaby pyjak.) and cant move well outside water.

The Biotic God appeared to us through a Volus to prove that even the most pathetic race can be redeemed.

Unfortunately for them he only chose to redeem one of them. They're useless. Forget economic management, there is no economy. We're going in on stasis arks.

If the project succeeds, there's going to be an economy.

You've stumbled around the edges of the reason to bring elcor, volus, and hanar. They can make productive use of worlds which are of limited or zero utility for humans, asari, etc. If the expedition ends up in a 4x-game type of situation, where productivity growth in order to stay competitive with the locals is necessary, you need to be able to colonize the planets you've found, not the planets you wish you found.

[Operator m1]

I don't mind if quarians are there, but I won't hold my breath. The devs apparently asked which two races they would not want to see. Quarians and krogans were the answer, but for some reason we got krogan anyway. 

 

If the devs use medical related reasons as the reason they don't bring the quarians, I'd remember that the genophage didn't stop them from using the krogan. 

What? Really? Was volus, elcor, or even hanar not options to axe?

 

Hell I'd even vote in favor of axing salarians. I don't see what's in it for them to make the journey; they still have their home planet, and was content to lay low during ME3. Their leaders don't strike me as charitable either.

 

Krogans, and quarians both have the best reason to go looking for more habitable worlds even before the reapers had their way with the milky way.

[EpicNewb]

Andromeda is a HUMANcentric story.  Quarians have no alliance with humans at the time we head for Andromeda.  Why would humans bring them along?

 

Krogans aren't apart of the Council, but they can explore toxic planets that humans can't.

 

As for the Quarians know how to survive on a ship for long periods of time nonsense.  Humans are pretty smart in the ME universe.  They can bring dead men back to life.  I'm confident they'd figure out how to survive on a ship.

 

 

Milky Way Races that get priority based on utility:

 

 

Krogan for their exploration prowess

 

Asari because they can get nailed by anyone, which is useful for establishing Milky Way Life in Andromeda

 

Salarian the science nerds who will study Andromeda

 

 

Turians have too much overlap with humans in terms of function.

 

Quarians are fragile.  Exploration is a tough business.

[MrBSN2017]

The only thing of significance the Quarians ever did was create the Geth. It was the final stage in their evolution. Let the dead rest in pieces.

[Serza]

NOW you're asking the right questions.

 

A Google search would have served you better. The answer is no. With the exception of turians, It's unlikely any MW species will appear that haven't already been shown, especially not the deeply unpopular soup rats.

 

Yes, Admiral! Keelah se'lai!

 

Well, time to erase BioWare from my library now. Thank you for the answer... looks like I'll be spending alot more time in Toussaint.

 

Naught is certain! Fear not, for the Milky Way's finest engineers may arise yet!

(I'd be equally sad about them not making an appearance...)

[ModernAcademic]

Difficult to say. The game happens many centuries after the Reaper war and one of the ME endings implies the quarians can be extinguished if Shepard decides so.

[MrBSN2017]

Dude... I don't need Aliens for sex in my video game library. I play for the lore and action. Right now I see Quarians as an important race in the ME universe. Devs can absolutely disagree but it would be a shame to throw them away.

If you're so in love with the Quarians then why don't you marry them. Seriously, if you miss them that much, go play the trilogy over.

It's time for the new, hip and fresh. You old guys need to just let go and stop reminiscing about "the golden days" while drinking your prune juice in depends.

[Spirit Vanguard]

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Asari because they can get nailed by anyone, which is useful for establishing Milky Way Life in Andromeda

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Can't leave the Milky Way without the only sexually reproductively pliable race. SExploration without asari? Bah! That's not Mass Effect!