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[KaiserShep]

Except for the fact that they're horrible rape abominations who poison the land by existing. It's absolutely a bigger threat than the Qun. The most that the Qun could do is form a terrible dictatorship across the globe. The worst the darkspawn can do is erase all non-darkspawn life, turn the world into a wasteland that doesn't support life, and turn all or most women in monsters after "violating" them. That's... awful. And they do a lot of that largely by existing. 
 
Saying that the Disciplies showed they aren't a threat by not exterminating all life on Thedas right away is a bit like saying the Qun aren't a threat simply because they aren't currently invading THedas.

Thus why I'll always maintain that the only good darkspawn is a dead darkspawn, and why I'll never spare the Messenger.

[Zero]

I prefer to bet in the small possibility of peace. Even if is just a 0.0001%, is still not 0%.

 

Like Ohgren says "it that helps Orzammar to survive", I'll help the guy. Is better than doing nothing, even with that small chance. 

[TheKomandorShepard]

-There is nothing that indicates that the awakening is permanent rather than a temporary state that endure so long that the blood used retain the immunity which happen to be a temporary condition for the GW same should be for those who use that blood.

This is hardly the same thing this is logical fallacy as you are applying methods that share similarities on different subject expecting same effect.Effect of darkspawn blood (and magic) on human/elf/dwarf can be vastly different that drinking Grey warden Blood on darkspawn.

 

I prefer to bet in the small possibility of peace. Even if is just a 0.0001%, is still not 0%.

 

Like Ohgren says "it that helps Orzammar to survive", I'll help the guy. Is better than doing nothing, even with that small chance. 

Naive, it isn't just do nothing gain nothing and do something and lose nothing.You are creating an enemy that can't be stopped as you remove only weakness that allowed humans to stop darkspawn invastion so far, as well you enhance darkspawn intelligence.So basically Orzammar gets screwd as darkspawn develop much more organized internal structure, as well allows them to use complex tactics and strategies.

[Aren]

This is hardly the same thing this is logical fallacy as you are applying methods that share similarities on different subject expecting same effect.Effect of darkspawn blood (and magic) on human/elf/dwarf can be vastly different that drinking Grey warden Blood on darkspawn.

 

 

The Architect never implied that the state of being a Disciple is permanent  he only said that the immunity in the Gw blood was necessary and we know that the immunity is not permanent.

[TheKomandorShepard]

 

The Architect never implied that the state of being a Disciple is permanent  he only said that the immunity in the Gw blood was necessary and we know that the immunity is not permanent.

 

He also never contradicted it (that would be also pretty much essential information) and there is nothing to belive that it isn't permanent process.As i said you are applying same effect to 2 different substances have on 2 vastly different types of creatures.In case of wardens we deal with untainted creature that was exposed to darkspawn blood with mixture of magic where eventually Taint overtakes the body while in second case we deal with completely tainted creature that is exposed to grey warden blood (not darkspawn blood).

[German Soldier]

He also never contradicted it (that would be also pretty much essential information) and there is nothing to belive that it isn't permanent process.As i said you are applying same effect to 2 different substances have on 2 vastly different types of creatures.In case of wardens we deal with untainted creature that was exposed to darkspawn blood with mixture of magic where eventually Taint overtakes the body while in second case we deal with completely tainted creature that is exposed to grey warden blood (not darkspawn blood).

Until it will be revealed that the process is permanent i don't think you have any evidence to say that is true.

What is known for now is that the awakening is only applicable to a specific set of darkspawns and it doesn't work with the others(Ogre,Shriek,Genlock) and that also it make some of them crazy.

[German Soldier]

Thus why I'll always maintain that the only good darkspawn is a dead darkspawn, and why I'll never spare the Messenger.

It doesn't matter at all what you believe is the best option if The Architect is the same kind of Corypheus you will be able to do nothing to stop him regardless,so earn his trust rather than make him hostile is better solution rahter than have him resurrect again more evil than before.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Until it will be revealed that the process is permanent i don't think you have any evidence to say that is true.

What is known for now is that the awakening is only applicable to a specific set of darkspawns and it doesn't work with the others(Ogre,Shriek,Genlock) and that also it make some of them crazy.

And vice versa, as far no evidence was delivered that process isn't permanent.If it wasn't Architect didn't know that.

[Ieldra]

Carrying a spirit in not necessarily a bad thing, so I object to the term "abomination" unless we're speaking of entities that act like one. Having said that, it appears that - given DG's statements about Anders - that carrying a spirit can indeed affect the taint. I wouldn't like this to be the only cure, but I can see it's a probable candidate.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Carrying a spirit in not necessarily a bad thing, so I object to the term "abomination" unless we're speaking of entities that act like one. Having said that, it appears that - given DG's statements about Anders - that carrying a spirit can indeed affect the taint. I wouldn't like this to be the only cure, but I can see it's a probable candidate.

Toying with anything from the fade is bad thing.Mages already bring enough destruction without voluntarily getting possessed.