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[Fuyin]

If Solas is with you why doesn't he translate everything but Morrigan does? Bad writting por did I misa something?

[Ghost Gal]

Bad writing.

 

If you play Lavellan the game still acts like you don't know who Mythal is. There's no excuse for it.

[Inkvisiittori]

It really makes no sense at all. Why would Morrigan understand more of the elven language than Lavellan?

[dawnstone]

Solas doesn't translate everything because he's watching to see how much Morrigan actually knows. Not just to be smug, but because of her connections to Flemeth and the legends around her. Also, he could very easily say too much, when he already has to play tourist in a place he's certainly been before, and has freaking gold monuments to him littered throughout.

[Zero]

If Solas is with you why doesn't he translate everything but Morrigan does? Bad writting por did I misa something?

 

Bad writing or just Solas is being Solas, and doesn't want the Inquisitor to know more about "true elves". Remember, the guy believes everyone is beneath "true elves", even elves themselves...

[Dai Grepher]

Solas doesn't translate because he doesn't want to raise too much suspicion about himself. Also, the translation isn't important.

[Abyss108]

I'd say Solas doesn't want to seem suspicious by knowing too much ancient Elfy stuff, but then he spends the entire mission bitching at Morrigan/Lavellan about everything they got wrong regarding the Gods anyway...   Though I guess it makes sense he just can't keep quiet once they start going on about how great the Evanuris are, but can when they are just trying to translate some random writing.

 

Lavellan could possibly be explained by the fact that the Dalish don't really know Elvish, just fragments, but Bioware seems to go back and forth on exactly how much they understand. It could be a very old dialect that is difficult to read or something as well. 

[Inkvisiittori]

Lavellan could possibly be explained by the fact that the Dalish don't really know Elvish, just fragments, but Bioware seems to go back and forth on exactly how much they understand. It could be a very old dialect that is difficult to read or something as well. 

 

This seems like the most likely explanation (but it still annoys me that Morrigan supposedly knows it).

 

In The Stolen Throne the dalish clan Marric and Loghain met spoke perfect elven and it was the language they used when among themselves.

 

Loghain: "You speak the King's tongue?"

 

Young Dalish Elf: "Most of us do, though only those who go out to trade with the outsiders get to use it often. Here in the clan, we try to keep our own tongue alive, just as we do our gods."

[Xerrai]

Apparently there was some miscommunication going on when that quest was being made. Or maybe something got scrapped accidentally when they had to shorten the game.

 

Solas and his dialogue both within and out of the temple seem to contradict each other. The Inquisitor, if elven, can still ask who Mythal is even though he/she is Dalish.

But there can always be theories. Maybe it was intentional and Solas just wanted to play it safe.

[thats1evildude]

If Solas is with you why doesn't he translate everything but Morrigan does? Bad writting por did I misa something?

He's still playing the role of the ordinary elven apostate who knows some elven lore as a result of exploring the Fade. It wouldn't help his cover by revealing too much.

[Andrew Waples]

It really makes no sense at all. Why would Morrigan understand more of the elven language than Lavellan?

Its unfortunate, because the only thing that gets "translated" is Solas' personal quest (All New, Faded For Her). I've always wondered why that was translated over anything else.

[German Soldier]

Bad writing.

 

If you play Lavellan the game still acts like you don't know who Mythal is. There's no excuse for it.

I assumed he didn't wanted to draw attention on him by revealing his knowledge of that language.

[German Soldier]

I'd say Solas doesn't want to seem suspicious by knowing too much ancient Elfy stuff, but then he spends the entire mission bitching at Morrigan/Lavellan about everything they got wrong regarding the Gods anyway...   Though I guess it makes sense he just can't keep quiet once they start going on about how great the Evanuris are, but can when they are just trying to translate some random writing.

 

Lavellan could possibly be explained by the fact that the Dalish don't really know Elvish, just fragments, but Bioware seems to go back and forth on exactly how much they understand. It could be a very old dialect that is difficult to read or something as well. 

I can understand him especially at the point in which Morrigan was talking about his statue by painting it as something blasphemous in the temple of Mythal,so i guess he got really offended and didn't resisted to reply.

[Gervaise]

Solas doesn't want to give the game away that he knows more than he does.   Usually when you catch him out on something his standard response is "I saw it in the Fade".   If he easily translate some old elvish that no one else can, or only with difficulty, then it is not going to be so easy to explain away how he could do that.   You could just as easily ask why Morrigan doesn't pick up on the fact that what he claims he says to Abelas before he departs is not an exact translation.  "I said I hope he finds a new name" might be the sentiment that lies behind his words but not the words themselves.  

 

Mind you the whole exchange with Abelas points up that Solas has more in kinship with him that he would have us believe.   This is even more apparent if the Inquisitor is an elf because of the fact that Abelas rejects them as one of his People, and yet accepts Solas.     The natural reaction of Lavellan at this point when they get back to Skyhold would be to quiz him about it but instead all they get is Solas asking them what they are going to do with the knowledge from the Well of Sorrows even if they didn't drink, to which I wanted to say "What are you asking me for?   Go ask Morrigan", since it was obvious she was in control of it and if she left the Inquisition, as she does after the fall of Corypheus, then the knowledge goes with her.

 

Actually, the moment she showed me her eluvian, I wanted to rush off and tell Solas, thinking he would be interested and ask if he knew anything more about them.   That is what you would expect anyone to do but sadly again this didn't happen.     There are all sorts of occasions in game where looking back on it, Solas obviously knew more but was keeping quiet.     That I can understand but not the inability of the Inquisitor to quiz him about something when it is obvious he does know more.

[Beerfish]

"Actually, the moment she showed me her eluvian, I wanted to rush off and tell Solas, thinking he would be interested and ask if he knew anything more about them.   That is what you would expect anyone to do but sadly again this didn't happen.  "

 

I don't know if I would have ever taken advantage of that kind of choice even in games in which I more or less got along with Solas.  He just never gave me too many reasons to trust him in that game.

[Melbella]

Varric knows what's what:

Spoiler

[Mlady]

I heard removed dialogue of Lavellan speaking in Elvish. Seems he/she would have been more competent in the original version. I'm guessing they added Cole saying Lavellen struggles with the language so it would seem like it makes more sense.

 

As for why Morrigan would know more? I'm guessing Flemeth taught her a lot and she sought out the rest. Her knowledge could almost rival Solas' if not for the fact Solas knows what really happened compared to what she read had happened, and if he corrected her too much everyone would look at him in question.

[LOLandStuff]

Solas likes to rub it in your face only when you get something wrong.

Morrigan just got lucky she managed to translate part of the writing correctly, so there was no need for him to barge in and tell her how her elven sucks.

 

Solas also lies to you soon after when he says Abelas' name is lame and should change it.