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[SNascimento]

Well, considering the Arks could have been built, then building them for the sake of exploring in possible, yes. It doesn't make any sense. But then, logic is not the thing we should be looking for when discussing the Arks.

They happened for some reason. Andromeda should just take that out of the way and focus of the game itself. 

[Sartoz]

We did explore the oceans before going to the Moon, right? In Mass Effect universe, we can't reliably travel very far from the Relays because we don't have the technology. But suddenly we are going to another galaxy.

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Now, now. You forgot one very important "thing". WW2, showed it to us, quite clearly. Which is that::

 

Necessity is the mother of inventions.

 

If you follow the number of discoveries and inventions from 1800s to now, and graph it over time you'd notice it follows an exponential curve. Certainly, the oncoming Reaper War is such a necessity.  Also, there was a valuable high tech cache found on Mars at the beginning of ME3. I am not surprised if human scientists and engineers found a way to boost the speed of the  FTL drives. Said drives took the ARKs 600 years to get to Andromeda .

 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

How would you know? You haven't played it. You're so wrong. Also it can't be because of reapers and the endings. That's a huge reason in itself. Do I need to go on? We can be here all night.

How am I wrong? And how do you know you are right? You haven't played it. 

And there you go. You just hit the reason why on the head. We aren't going to Andromeda because of exploration for exploration's sake. We are going there because of the Reapers. If it wasn't for the endings being what they are, this game would not take place in Andromeda but the Milky Way. 

 

Why not? Mystery? The unknown, colonization, meet new alien races. The fact that its another ******* galaxy!! How is that not good enough for you? We don't know what's going on in Andromeda But We'd like to. I'd like to.

For the record, I never said it isn't. I'm really excited to be exploring since I love space. I'm just saying that is not the actual reason why we are going to Andromeda. Bioware has even said as much. 

[straykat]

If you say so. I want to go for the adventure and the unknown.

 

They seem to be going for your tastes in these new trailers at least.

 

I preferred the lead up to Mass Effect. Shep in space bars.. hunting a "rogue spectre". See? Drama.

[Sarayne]

I always had the theory that, the council always knew something about the Reaper threat ,but couldn't do anything about it (maybe the council members aren't really in control of their governments?). So I hope they launched the "SAVE MILKY WAY GALAXY BY LEAVING" plan in ME2 after Shepard dies. 

[SKAR]

Well, considering the Arks could have been built, then building them for the sake of exploring in possible, yes. It doesn't make any sense. But then, logic is not the thing we should be looking for when discussing the Arks.

They happened for some reason. Andromeda should just take that out of the way and focus of the game itself.

you keep saying that. It doesn't make any sense. So we are going to Andromeda for colonization, exploration , adventure,etc. What more do you need?

[SKAR]

They seem to be going for your tastes in these new trailers at least.

I preferred the lead up to Mass Effect. Shep in space bars.. hunting a "rogue spectre". See? Drama.

Oh there'll be plenty of drama once we get there. Also I'm goin off what bioware said in the training about humanity's need for exploration.

[SKAR]

I always had the theory that, the council always knew something about the Reaper threat ,but couldn't do anything about it (maybe the council members aren't really in control of their governments?). So I hope they launched the "SAVE MILKY WAY GALAXY BY LEAVING" plan in ME2 after Shepard dies.

I had that theory too once but then I started listening to Bioware and the trailers.

[SNascimento]

you keep saying that. It doesn't make any sense. So we are going to Andromeda for colonization, exploration , adventure,etc. What more do you need?

One real life example of a massive financial endeavour for the sake of exploration that wil not bring any kind of return, either financial or any other kind. 

[straykat]

Oh there'll be plenty of drama once we get there. Also I'm goin off what bioware said in the training about humanity's need for exploration.

 

Then all I can expect is something as shitty as ME2's beginning.

 

I hope it actually has characters that can equal that one (it won't).

[SKAR]

How am I wrong? And how do you know you are right? You haven't played it.
And there you go. You just hit the reason why on the head. We aren't going to Andromeda because of exploration for exploration's sake. We are going there because of the Reapers. If it wasn't for the endings being what they are, this game would not take place in Andromeda but the Milky Way.

For the record, I never said it isn't. I'm really excited to be exploring since I love space. I'm just saying that is not the actual reason why we are going to Andromeda. Bioware has even said as much.

That's not what bio has been saying. You say reaps but nobody said that but the a few people. The game isn't even out and You're saying reapers are the cause let we know nothing. you're slipping Hanako. You could say there's no logical reason to go to Mars cause it's a dead planet but we will be going. You should watch the first 15 secs of the trailer again.

[SKAR]

Then all I can expect is something as shitty as ME2's beginning.

Doubtful. Highly. And I liked it.

[AlanC9]

If you follow the number of discoveries and inventions from 1800s to now, and graph it over time you'd notice it follows an exponential curve. Certainly, the oncoming Reaper War is such a necessity.  Also, there was a valuable high tech cache found on Mars at the beginning of ME3. I am not surprised if human scientists and engineers found a way to boost the speed of the  FTL drives. Said drives took the ARKs 600 years to get to Andromeda .

That's actually standard FTL speed. The problems they solved weren't speed, but drive charge and fuel.

[straykat]

Doubtful. Highly. And I liked it.

 

You liked dying and then rising from the dead... for completely arbitrary reasons... in the first 5 minutes?

 

 

It's my favorite Bioware game and even I don't like it.

 

 

As for characters, they have to please too many people now. Sign of the times. They had a better sense of "not giving a ****" back then.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

That's not what bio has been saying. You say reaps but nobody said that but the a few people. The game isn't even out and You're saying reapers are the cause let we know nothing. you're slipping Hanako. You could say there's no logical reason to go to Mars cause it's a dead planet but we will be going. You should watch the first 15 secs of the trailer again.

Oh really? The leak mentions that the reason for us going to Andromeda is to establish a new homeworld for humanity, to ensure the fate of humanity, etc. It's not for exploration, it is for salvation. And the leak, for better or worse, has been accurate with everything revealed so far. 

As I said, on the surface the leaders could be saying it is just an exploration mission, but in reality it is to ensure the races survive should we lose the Reaper War and the stuff about exploration is just a smokescreen to prevent panic, like the Council lying about the Reapers being real. 

Also, there are plenty of logical reasons why we should go to Mars even though it is a dead planet. For example resources. 

[SKAR]

One real life example of a massive financial endeavour for the sake of exploration that wil not bring any kind of return, either financial or any other kind.

First off its a game and second we have massive amounts of money shoved into this endeavor and technology to go colonize Andromeda. ANDROMEDA!!!!!! And expedition to explore and colonize. We obviously get there and the rest is up to us. We now have the power to make a new life for our People in this Galaxy. It isn't comparable to a real life endeavor because we are far from becoming a galactic society and we are not as technologically advanced as in ME. Intergalactic travel is way different than colonizing a country or even another planet.

[SKAR]

Oh really? The leak mentions that the reason for us going to Andromeda is to establish a new homeworld for humanity, to ensure the fate of humanity, etc. It's not for exploration, it is for salvation. And the leak, for better or worse, has been accurate with everything revealed so far.
As I said, on the surface the leaders could be saying it is just an exploration mission, but in reality it is to ensure the races survive should we lose the Reaper War and the stuff about exploration is just a smokescreen to prevent panic, like the Council lying about the Reapers being real.
Also, there are plenty of logical reasons why we should go to Mars even though it is a dead planet. For example resources.

I said that we are going to colonize AND explore. We don't know anything yet but what bioware has told us through trailers and tweets. Maybe we do go because of reapers, maybe not but we are still going to explore and colonize. That is the focus of the game whether you like it or not. Going to Mars is a lot different than going to a galaxy. It's a whole different ballpark. When you have money and resources you can do whatever you want. We are going and we are there to stay. To explore amd colonize. The real why doesn't matter whether its because of reapers which considering the council doesn't seem too likely or exploration we are going either way to find new things and discover the unknown. That is the best reason possible.

[TheRevanchist]

These are the official Citadel Archives...

 

 

1:36... that is all.

[Furisco]

I know that Bioware really wants to start a new journey and leave the trilogy behind and i'm ok with it, BUT...

 

If we aren't leaving the MW because of the Reapers, they better give a genius explanation to construct all those arks and go on a suicide travel to Andromeda all of a sudden.

 

 

Also, this looks like the beginning of Mass Effect 3

[TheRevanchist]

I know that Bioware really wants to start a new journey and leave the trilogy behind and i'm ok with it, BUT...

 

If we aren't leaving the MW because of the Reapers, they better give a genius explanation to construct all those arks and go on a suicide travel to Andromeda all of a sudden.

 

 

Also, this looks like the beginning of Mass Effect 3

 

Well, there is a 6 month period between The Arrival and ME3's opening...

[SKAR]

I know that Bioware really wants to start a new journey and leave the trilogy behind and i'm ok with it, BUT...

If we aren't leaving the MW because of the Reapers, they better give a genius explanation to construct all those arks and go on a suicide travel to Andromeda all of a sudden.


Also, this looks like the beginning of Mass Effect 3

That looks more like lights from cities. Where are the reapers? Why wasnt this know? Why is there no talk? Why haven't they destroyed the ark? My guess is that it's between ME3 and ME1 most likely in 2184 given what we've seen. Colonization and exploration into the unknown are good enough reasons as any. We don't know what out there but that's the grand hype. Only a bunch of arks with thousands of people going off into the unknown. Why is that so off putting? Where's everyone's call to adventure? I'll tell ya why people volunteered for the ARKCON initiative. Because they wanted to see new wonders, explore what they've never seen before, to take a leap of faith or die old men and women filled with regret at now having seen the wonders that are in Andromeda. Why did the starship enterprise venture into the unknown?

[Furisco]

That looks more like lights from cities. Where are the reapers? Why wasnt this know? Why is there no talk? Why haven't they destroyed the ark?

 

Beginning of Mass Effect 3

 

[SKAR]

Beginning of Mass Effect 3

exactly. No ark ships.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

exactly. No ark ships.

It's also a few hours later in the ME3 image compared to the MEA image. And with the shuttles going to the Arks it is clear they are about to depart and are loading up. So it isn't much of a leap that somewhere within those few hours the Arks leave. 

[SKAR]

It's also a few hours later in the ME3 image compared to the MEA image. And with the shuttles going to the Arks it is clear they are about to depart and are loading up. So it isn't much of a leap that somewhere within those few hours the Arks leave.

Why do you sound so sure though? It's very highly doubtful. How come the reapers didn't destroy the arks on their way in? Bioware wouldn't make it minutes before ME3. It wouldn't make sense. Think about it.