I've had Genophage decisions twice already. I don't know about you, but I don't want to deal with it anymore. Just show us some Salarian who'll say "Good news, everyone! Krogans now reproduce by spores" or whatever.
What I didn't like about ME2's loyalty missions was that most had little to do with the story. The Drack example is more like it. But doing 6 or 7 of these again... Not very original.
While I enjoyed the loyalty missions in ME2, I thought they could have been incorporated more organically into the story. Have them be more integrated, rather than singular missions keyed specifically to one character. Loyalty should be based on many decisions you make during the course of the game, not just one specific action.
That would, of course, be a very complicated system; which is why they probably avoided it.
Yeah, let's not do the whole loyalty thing anymore. Perhaps something better and different.
I would love more squadmates interacts on the ship. They improved on this more in ME2 and then again in ME3, but I remember in KOTOR and KOTOR 2 when walking around the ship that sometimes when you walked in a room cutscene-ish squad mate interacts would occur and I always enjoyed that. I would not mind something like that happening more in ME:A.
I don't really know. To me, those arguments seemed like little more than a mid-game paragon/renegade check. If you didn't have enough p/r, then you could kiss your squadmates loyalty goodbye. Even if you already did their mission.
I wouldn't mind conflicts between crew, but maybe if you were are actually forced to choose, and not just rely on having enough paragon. renegade. whatever.
What I didn't like about ME2's loyalty missions was that most had little to do with the story. The Drack example is more like it. But doing 6 or 7 of these again... Not very original.
What I didn't like about them is that a squadmate could die if their loyalty mission isn't completed. If anything, I would have it effect the relationship between Shepard and the squadmate.
What I didn't like about them is that a squadmate could die if their loyalty mission isn't completed. If anything, I would have it effect the relationship between Shepard and the squadmate.
That's something I can understand.
To me it is also the repetitive nature of these quests. Fetch quests, which all have a similar structure, are considered by many as not very original, but to me loyalty missions are just as bad for similar reasons.
That's something I can understand.
To me it is also the repetitive nature of these quests. Fetch quests, which all have a similar structure, are considered by many as not very original, but to me loyalty missions are just as bad for similar reasons.
Maybe I'm jumping in late, but what's similar? I know they're all (mostly) shooting based, but what else? The story content is vastly different. I feel like I'm taking Grunt to a Bar Mitzvah, and Garrus is broken friend you want to help out... Jack (especially without DLC) was intended to be a reminder of the measures Cerberus goes to on their own, Mordin has his soul searching with the genophage, Miranda has her sister, etc..
Maybe I'm jumping in late, but what's similar? I know they're all (mostly) shooting based, but what else? The story content is vastly different. I feel like I'm taking Grunt to a Bar Mitzvah, and Garrus is broken friend you want to help out... Jack (especially without DLC) was intended to be a reminder of the measures Cerberus goes to on their own, Mordin has his soul searching with the genophage, Miranda has her sister, etc..
Loyalty mission: Do a favor to get a ship upgrade, an ability upgrade and a new costume. If you don't then there will be "repercussions" in the end game.
Edit: Added quotes.
Loyalty mission: Do a favor to get a ship upgrade, an ability upgrade and a new costume. If you don't then there will be "repercussions" in the end game.
Edit: Added quotes.
Fair enough. What do you want changed?
I never really thought about the perks too much or what could be improved. As you saw, I just focused on the stories. They felt different enough, even though that oft-repeated joke about "daddy issues" has some validity. Exaggerated, but it's still there.
Loyalty mission: Do a favor to get a ship upgrade, an ability upgrade and a new costume. If you don't then there will be "repercussions" in the end game.
Edit: Added quotes.
Well, technically the upgrade is always available so long as you have the resources to apply them, since you could just ask even a disloyal companion. As for the ability upgrade, that seems like a thing some RPG's are wont to do. Look at the unique specializations for companions in DA2 when you unlock friendship or rivalry, or the boosts in ability for companions in DA:O when a companion has high approval.
Fair enough. What do you want changed?
I never really thought about the perks too much or what could be improved. As you saw, I just focused on the stories. They felt different enough, even though that oft-repeated joke about "daddy issues" has some validity. Exaggerated, but it's still there.
If those loyalty missions are to be in ME:A again then let them at least have something to do with the story. So, not only character progression, but also story progression. Like I said before, playing a psychiatrist or father figure in those situations is OK once only. But yes, there were too many "daddy issues", for the lack of a better term. Something like Drack's example is more like it.
If the loyalty is not achieved then I rather wish they'd leave instead of nagging for the rest of the game. And like I said before, loyalty goes two ways. I've tried Jack and Grunt. Jack is unstable, I rather have her not around. Grunt is unstable too, but you can at least fix that. However, I have no use for Grunt. I rarely take him anywhere. He is supposed to be cool, but it's not my kind of cool. I rather he left.
You can argue that some don't have to be recruited, but in my first playthrough I want to give them at least a chance. So the options to remove them from the squad later would be appreciated.
If those loyalty missions are to be in ME:A again then let them at least have something to do with the story. So, not only character progression, but also story progression. Like I said before, playing a psychiatrist or father figure in those situations is OK once only. But yes, there were too many "daddy issues", for the lack of a better term. Something like Drack's example is more like it.
If the loyalty is not achieved then I rather wish they'd leave instead of nagging for the rest of the game. And like I said before, loyalty goes two ways. I've tried Jack and Grunt. Jack is unstable, I rather have her not around. Grunt is unstable too, but you can at least fix that. However, I have no use for Grunt. I rarely take him anywhere. He is supposed to be cool, but its not my kind of cool. I rather he left.
You can argue that some don't have to be recruited, but in my first playthrough I want to give them at least a chance. So the options to remove them from the squad later would be appreciated.
There is no story in ME2. There are stories.
So you're demanding something that was never necessary in the first place 
They're not there to be tied to the Collectors. They're just the dirty dozen, who represent some of the best in the galaxy.
Basically, this sounds like you didn't like the game at all now. Which is a different issue.
There is no story in ME2. There are stories.
So you're demanding something that was never necessary in the first place
Basically, this sounds like you didn't like the game at all now. Which is a different issue.
Hello again. My internet was interrupted. Sorry about that.
Well, I don't demand things. You asked what I wanted changed. So, I answered you.
No game is perfect. I guess it is fashionable that if you don't like an aspect then you should dislike the entire game. I don't suffer from that. 
Well, technically the upgrade is always available so long as you have the resources to apply them, since you could just ask even a disloyal companion. ...
Agreed. It has been a while since I last played the game. Sorry about that.
Edit: About the rest. It's the repetitive nature of these missions that I don't like, no matter their rewards.
Well, technically the upgrade is always available so long as you have the resources to apply them, since you could just ask even a disloyal companion.
If you talk with the squadmate right away, the upgrade becomes avaialble right away. If Shepard waits too long, the conversation will turn to helping the squadmate with whatever problem. Getting that upgrade won't happen until the squadmate has their problem taken care of.
If you talk with the squadmate right away, the upgrade becomes avaialble right away. If Shepard waits too long, the conversation will turn to helping the squadmate with whatever problem. Getting that upgrade won't happen until the squadmate has their problem taken care of.
Looks like that's another thing I forgot. Ghehe.
I would like some conflict in the squad that just can't be fixed. Like, you have to choose either one or the other.
I would like some conflict in the squad that just can't be fixed. Like, you have to choose either one or the other.
Like Virmire?
They had originally planned a choice like that with Thessia (VS vs Liara).
I would like some conflict in the squad that just can't be fixed. Like, you have to choose either one or the other.
I'd like that, too.
In real life, people have their own opinion. They don't always agree with you and can't be always persuaded to make a compromise or see things the way you do. They don't always believe what you say and if they disagree with the way you're handling things they might take the matter into their own hands. And if you keep disappointing them or making choices that go against their beliefs they might break ties with you or even go against you.
Companions shouldn't be a puppet that will dance to your tune just because you have maxed your persuasion skill. They should be their own person with their own opinions. So if you choose to do A or befriend companion B, they shouldn't only voice their concerns or aversion, but do something about it if it really goes against their beliefs.
But since Bioware games are all about choice and shaping the game the way you see fit, the option to resolve a critical situation peacefully should remain. But it would be better if achieving this would be a challenge. Maxing out persuasion to stop A from killing B or C leaving your crew is cheap. It would be much more interesting if it was dialogue based or influenced by a chain of choices that led to the conflict in the first place.
If we're exploring a new galaxy, then this team is all we got. And then whoever picked this team better chose people who work competently in a group instead of bickering around. The "bunch of quarreling quirky misfits" trope is getting so old that it can wrap itself in its own grey beard by now.
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