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Is sad the way this saga went...

 

What happened with romancing Morrigan, refuse her dark ritual, ask your best friend Alistair to f*ck your wife, and then leave through the Eluvian to be the father of the son of your best friend?

 

I want to knock up again a mother and kill his possessed children!

 

It seems like Disney bought Bioware now.


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Is sad the way this saga went...

 

What happened with romancing Morrigan, refuse her dark ritual, ask your best friend Alistair to f*ck your wife, and then leave through the Eluvian to be the father of the son of your best friend?

 

I want to knock up again a mother and kill his possessed children!

 

It seems like Disney bought Bioware now.

 

And you didn't even mention Connor or sacrificing poor city elves for +1 Con.


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And you didn't even mention Connor or sacrificing poor city elves for +1 Con.

 

Hey, +1 constitution isn't that bad.


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The darkest choice I can think of  in DAI is when you choose to support either the Templars or the mages. You forsake one group of people (Mages or Templars) to used and abused by Corypheaus. If you choose the mages, the Templars imbibe red lyrium to become the red Templars. If you choose the Templars, the mages are conscripted into the Venatori's service as slaves.

There is no "save them all" option.

 

Unfortunately I feel so disconnected from their plight that I honestly forget sometimes....


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What happened with romancing Morrigan, refuse her dark ritual, ask your best friend Alistair to f*ck your wife, and then leave through the Eluvian to be the father of the son of your best friend?

 

 

Why Bioware should promote cuckolds in their games?


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Why Bioware should promote cuckolds in their games?

What is disturbing is that people will  do such a thing for the sake of being disturbed.


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Why Bioware should promote cuckolds in their games?

 

Because everyone loves being cheated.

 

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What is disturbing is that people will  do such a thing for the sake of being disturbed.

 

Is rather hot imagining your wife doing a dark ritual with your best friend knowing that she will end up pregnant.



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Is rather hot imagining your wife doing a dark ritual with your best friend knowing that she will end up pregnant.

I'm not sure where is the appealing in letting someone else have sex then take care of their offsprings but maybe is just me.


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With all the due disrespect for the dark ritual i find it more easier to just kill the dragon and be sure that it is permanently gone rather than allowing it to jump and survive with a ritual of sex depravity and blood magic that is certanly not my cup of tea.

 

That of course is still little compared to that Alienage choice and Morrigan snide remarks over the sacrifice of all those persons for a mere +1

but i'm well aware that from this woman i can expect every type of madness she seem to be very detached from the world after all.


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With all the due disrespect for the dark ritual i find it more easier to just kill the dragon and be sure that it is permanently gone rather than allowing it to jump and survive with a ritual of sex depravity and blood magic that is certanly not my cup of tea.

 

That of course is still little compared to that Alienage choice and Morrigan snide remarks over the sacrifice of all those persons for a mere +1

but i'm well aware that from this woman i can expect every type of madness she seem to be very detached from the world after all.

 

Ugh, you are disgusting, I bet you let Brother Genitivi alive and the poor kid in DA:2 keep the things from Athenril


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With all the due disrespect for the dark ritual i find it more easier to just kill the dragon and be sure that it is permanently gone rather than allowing it to jump and survive with a ritual of sex depravity and blood magic that is certanly not my cup of tea.

 

That of course is still little compared to that Alienage choice and Morrigan snide remarks over the sacrifice of all those persons for a mere +1

but i'm well aware that from this woman i can expect every type of madness she seem to be very detached from the world after all.

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged." (Matt 7:1)


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The darkest choice I can think of in DAI is when you choose to support either the Templars or the mages. You forsake one group of people (Mages or Templars) to used and abused by Corypheaus. If you choose the mages, the Templars imbibe red lyrium to become the red Templars. If you choose the Templars, the mages are conscripted into the Venatori's service as slaves.
There is no "save them all" option.

Unfortunately I feel so disconnected from their plight that I honestly forget sometimes....

If you had enough "power, influence" I see no reason why cooperation between the two can't be achieved. You can still have the Venatori as the main villians. Hell, even if you choose the Templars you still have to fight Red Templars.

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The darkest choice I can think of  in DAI is when you choose to support either the Templars or the mages. You forsake one group of people (Mages or Templars) to used and abused by Corypheaus. If you choose the mages, the Templars imbibe red lyrium to become the red Templars. If you choose the Templars, the mages are conscripted into the Venatori's service as slaves.

There is no "save them all" option.

 

Unfortunately I feel so disconnected from their plight that I honestly forget sometimes....

 

No no no no no, let's see.

The Templars are grown up adults who spent all his life training, yes, they are minions of the chantry, but they can refuse and leave, we saw a lot of templars during the saga leaving the templars, Alistair was "forced" to leave, but he never wanted to be a templar, he knew what Lyrium was really from.

 

If someone comes here with a new magical red like blood lyrium, everyone knows red = evil and blood, you just don't drink it.

 

There is clearly the good choice, mages, since mages are not warriors, mages are kids, old wo/men, people in general, you are letting hundred of people "who needs protection" be sold to slavery because of the stupidity of Fiona, in the templars they submit to Corypheous because of their own stupidity.



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I remember when I made Isolde kill her own son, killed Genitivi for trying to profit with faith, and killed a guy trapped in a cage in Kal'Hirol by letting him fall in a pool of lava... oh, the good old times  ;)


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I remember when I made Isolde kill her own son, killed Genitivi for trying to profit with faith, and killed a guy trapped in a cage in Kal'Hirol by letting him fall in a pool of lava... oh, the good old times  ;)

I don't remember the last one! Is it really possible? Guess I have to start the new playthrough for... ehm... being bigger a**hole than I used to be?



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That happens in Awakening, in Kal'Harol Thaig. Is one of the funniest deaths, because you can assure him you will release him if he gives you his treasure, and then you can kill it. :D


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Ugh, you are disgusting, I bet you let Brother Genitivi alive and the poor kid in DA:2 keep the things from Athenril

There is no point in killing Genitivi other than for the sake of being evil.

 

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged." (Matt 7:1)

I don't think that Matthew was particularly fond of witches or magic they are  abominations by default  for christianity.

 

I remember when I made Isolde kill her own son, killed Genitivi for trying to profit with faith, and killed a guy trapped in a cage in Kal'Hirol by letting him fall in a pool of lava... oh, the good old times   ;)

I didn't missed the lack of this psychotic choices in DAI they do not pertains to a person that is not insane.


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There is no point in killing Genitivi other than for the sake of being evil.

Actually, there is: you may not want the story and/or the location of the temple to become known.



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Actually, there is: you may not want the story and/or the location of the temple to become known.

and to what end?

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and to what end?

 

In order to prevent the dominant religion from becoming even more powerful. That was, in fact, the motivation of one of my Wardens who killed Genitivi. I'm not claiming any moral high ground for that, but it is a pragmatic rationale.


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In order to prevent the dominant religion from becoming even more powerful. That was, in fact, the motivation of one of my Wardens who killed Genitivi. I'm not claiming any moral high ground for that, but it is a pragmatic rationale.

 

Opposing dominant forces for its own sake generally isn't pragmatic by most measures of pragmatism.

 

You typically have to get to get into ideological and teleological ethics, which aren't particularly pragmatic, to claim benefits from it.


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In order to prevent the dominant religion from becoming even more powerful. That was, in fact, the motivation of one of my Wardens who killed Genitivi. I'm not claiming any moral high ground for that, but it is a pragmatic rationale.

i'm not sure why a person would see as preferable to waste the opportunity to being remembered in history for their discovery just because they did not like what they discovered.I also don't think that the chantry is more powerful/less powerful for a temple on the top of a mountain.


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i'm not sure why a person would see as preferable to waste the opportunity to being remembered in history for their discovery just because they did not like what they discovered.I also don't think that the chantry is more powerful/less powerful for a temple on the top of a mountain.

Different characters. My main Warden Eorlin Amell was enough of a scholar to value the discovery and respect Genitivi as a scholar, even though he hates southern Andrastianism, but my Dalish Arvellen Mahariel saw it differently. The discovery would give merit to some of the myths surrounding the founding figures of Andrastianism, which would boost the faith across southern Thedas. He really didn't like that.

 

Personally, I'm closer to Eorlin Amell. I think the power of religion doesn't depend on the knowledge of the truth of its claims, but rather on the lack thereof. But then, he's not the only character I've played.


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For me its a no brainer..After reading "Asunder"   I have no love or respect for those thug Templars. In DA:I they sealed their fated when that Templar thug showed the Templars true colors in Val Royeaux. I enjoyed watching the avalanches that took out probably hundreds of Templar thugs.  

 

Once again all of my wardens just kills the baddies Vaughan,Howe,the slaver, Loghain and the AD. All three agrees to Morrigan DR and my female wardens talks Alistair into doing it.

 

The reason is simple..All three knows and understands dying for nothing means shite.


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I don't think that Matthew was particularly fond of witches or magic they are  abominations by default  for christianity.

Of course not! But this is not Christianity, but a game with a completely different world. Sometimes it seems you judge, not just telling an opinion. (Not only here, not only about Morrigan.)


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