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[straykat]

Loghain was a hero once. I think that choice is there for that mostly. You get the Redeemer achievement for it... which is exactly what it is. It's kind of a "good" choice to me (not that I prefer it).

[Akiza]

Poor Genativi

 

Well i don't really think there are good reasons to kill Genitivi it seem to be just an option for those people biased against the chantry but then again it serve nothing because the temple is discovered no matter what.

[Catilina]

Loghain was a hero once. I think that choice is there for that mostly. You get the Redeemer achievement for it... which is exactly what it is. It's kind of a "good" choice to me (not that I prefer it).

Whatever he was long time ago, it does not absolve him. On the other hand, do not kill someone is not a crime.

[straykat]

Whatever he was long time ago, it does not absolve him. On the other hand, do not kill someone is not a crime.

 

I mean, it takes a pretty forgiving character to do it, so I think it makes it kind of a good choice. It's no different than recruiting Sten to me. He just wants redemption too.

 

 

Anyways, I killed Genitivi once. But I like him. I even based my Inquisitor off of him. lol

[Akiza]

Loghain was a hero once. I think that choice is there for that mostly. You get the Redeemer achievement for it... which is exactly what it is. It's kind of a "good" choice to me (not that I prefer it).

I like that ending even if i wasn't particularly fond of Loghain there was the option to help him fix some of his mistakes so i consider it indeed a positive choice.I always thought that it was a better option than give to Morrigan the key to world domination.

 

He is a madman. But he is a useful madman. And in the end, nothing else matters. Your job is to stop the Blight.

Pretty much this in the end he died the same but at least in an useful way.

[Zero]

Well i don't really think there are good reasons to kill Genitivi it seem to be just an option for those people biased against the chantry but then again it serve nothing because the temple is discovered no matter what.

 

And Genitivi is dead (or missing) by the time of Inquisition, no matter if you don't kill him...

[Dai Grepher]

In Heart Burn you can watch several people die. Best one is Seggrit. He cries for help until the burning ceiling crushes and burns him to death.

Flissa's death is similar, but more tragic because she actually believes in you.

After Thren's death, the new Quartermaster says that no one has much to say about her, out of reverence he speculates. But in reality it's probably because no one liked her.

Many people missed Mineave though.

[Catilina]

I mean, it takes a pretty forgiving character to do it, so I think it makes it kind of a good choice. It's no different than recruiting Sten to me. He just wants redemption too.

 

 

Anyways, I killed Genitivi once. But I like him. I even based my Inquisitor off of him. lol

I like to give a second chance. 

I never killed Genitivi, I simply do not see a logic reason for killing an innocent man. 

[Elyunha]

In Heart Burn you can watch several people die. Best one is Seggrit. He cries for help until the burning ceiling crushes and burns him to death.

Flissa's death is similar, but more tragic because she actually believes in you.

After Thren's death, the new Quartermaster says that no one has much to say about her, out of reverence he speculates. But in reality it's probably because no one liked her.

Many people missed Mineave though.

 

This is, though, another thing that bothered me. When you chose to save them, they still were replaced by new people and ended up wandering round Skyhold with minor purpose(meaning you don't really see the impact your actions had on them, only through short dialogue). I mean, come on?? As the game is now it makes next to no difference whether you save them or not! They still get replaced! When saving them, one would expect "saint points" and many thanks, and they'd keep their posts, and if you choose not to save them, one would expect "evil points" and some hate from the survivors(the consequenses of both shown later in Skyhold, preferably through cutscenes), that would make the quest seem less pointless! Now Seggrit hates you no matter what. xD

[Elyunha]

I like to give a second chance. 

I never killed Genitivi, I simply do not see a logic reason for killing an innocent man. 

 

 

Nor do I see a reason to either, in real life, but this is a role playing game. The choices one does, while playing an evil character, do not have to be directly linked to the player's moral standing.

[straykat]

I like to give a second chance. 

I never killed Genitivi, I simply do not see a logic reason for killing an innocent man. 

 

I figured it's if you just didn't want the temple ransacked and he wanted to broadcast it to the world.

[Arshei]

He is a madman. But he is a useful madman. And in the end, nothing else matters. Your job is to stop the Bligh

 

If your job is to stop the blight then why you stoped to help the people? why you stayed at redcliff? why you saved the mages? why you didn't only sided with the werewolves, and most important, why you did the dark ritual?

 

It is easy to think you are playing a good warden when in true you are an hypocrite.

 

 

Well i don't really think there are good reasons to kill Genitivi it seem to be just an option for those people biased against the chantry but then again it serve nothing because the temple is discovered no matter what.

 

How was the warden supposed to know the temple was going to be discovered anyway?

Is like saying that you did the dark ritual because Morrigan lose the soul anyway, or you side with Bhelen because he is a better king than Harrowmont after the events of the game, your character can't know the future.

[Arshei]

Murder knife should return, only scene we got for it in DAI was Morrigan killing Abelas. She made me so proud, I HC'd it as her taking a page out of my Warden's handbook.

 

[Beerfish]

I like to give a second chance. 

I never killed Genitivi, I simply do not see a logic reason for killing an innocent man. 

Well if you role play in  a certain way you need to kill him so he won't go blabbing to everyone in the world that you have found the temple.  If I recall he is insistent on that point and you can't reason with him to keep things quiet.  I think I bumped him off in about 2 of about 6 or 7 play throughs for that reason.

[Zero]

In Heart Burn you can watch several people die. Best one is Seggrit. He cries for help until the burning ceiling crushes and burns him to death.

Flissa's death is similar, but more tragic because she actually believes in you.

After Thren's death, the new Quartermaster says that no one has much to say about her, out of reverence he speculates. But in reality it's probably because no one liked her.

Many people missed Mineave though.

 

As I always save those, is good to see what happen if you left them to die.

[straykat]

Well if you role play in  a certain way you need to kill him so he won't go blabbing to everyone in the world that you have found the temple.  If I recall he is insistent on that point and you can't reason with him to keep things quiet.  I think I bumped him off in about 2 of about 6 or 7 play throughs for that reason.

 

Oddly, it's the only time I've seen Alistair and Morrigan in agreement. Just for different reasons.

[Catilina]

I figured it's if you just didn't want the temple ransacked and he wanted to broadcast it to the world.

Yes, I realized. But: On one hand stone and ashes, on the other hand, a life.

[straykat]

Yes, I realized. But: On one hand stone and ashes, on the other hand, a life.

 

I'm not necessarily disagreeing. I've only tried it once. But I think there's more rationale to it than just senseless killing.

[Arshei]

Yes, I realized. But: On one hand stone and ashes, on the other hand, a life.

 

The Warden is at war, people die.

[Catilina]

I'm not necessarily disagreeing. I've only tried it once. But I think there's more rationale to it than just senseless killing.

I do not think it's a bad decision, but I did not saw a good reason for me.

[Catilina]

The Warden is at war, people die.

Hehe, true, but I do not think, if I'm in a war, I need to kill anyone, who cross my way. If everyone dies, for whom I fight?

[Aren]

Different characters. My main Warden Eorlin Amell was enough of a scholar to value the discovery and respect Genitivi as a scholar, even though he hates southern Andrastianism, but my Dalish Arvellen Mahariel saw it differently. The discovery would give merit to some of the myths surrounding the founding figures of Andrastianism, which would boost the faith across southern Thedas. He really didn't like that.

 

Personally, I'm closer to Eorlin Amell. I think the power of religion doesn't depend on the knowledge of the truth of its claims, but rather on the lack thereof. But then, he's not the only character I've played.

One thing would have been the reasoning to keep the place in secrecy for the safety of the temple or for the people and animals of the area but what you exposed came across as something done for pettiness.

I find it even more ironic how you claim that the religious power of the chantry is only based on the lack of truth yet you yourself are prone to destroy one of those artifacts which is a piece of history because you find it's existence to be dangerous since it may give more credit to them.

 

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged." 

That's completely ignores it's context since it is just a statement grabbed out of it.

 

If i judge Morrigan negatively because she is a slavery supporter i don't see how she can judge me with the same metres since i'm not a slavery supporter same for her dark ritual.

[Akiza]

And Genitivi is dead (or missing) by the time of Inquisition, no matter if you don't kill him...

Different choices same outcome typical of Bioware.

[Catilina]

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That's completely ignores it's context since it is just a statement grabbed out of it.

If i judge Morrigan negatively because she is a slavery supporter i don't see how she can judge me with the same metres since i'm not a slavery supporter same for her dark ritual.

This is not about Morrigan, Dark Ritual or something in game stuff... I must admit that was a simple personal attack.

[Arshei]

Hehe, true, but I do not think, if I'm in a war, I need to kill anyone, who cross my way. If everyone dies, for whom I fight?

 

You are killing a mindless fanatic of the chantry, did you read the books of Genitivi? they are ****!