You have once again no idea what you are talking about. Criminal is a term defining person that broke the law, regardless wheter you disagree with the law person that broke the law is objectively a criminal.Little common sense?
Laws are made by man and thus can be changed. Of course the Chantry claims it's "the Maker's will." Chantry has for hundreds of years spread it's propaganda and lies about magic... that is why so many people fear it. Their fear gives Chantry power.
Laws are made by man and thus can be changed. Of course the Chantry claims it's "the Maker's will." Chantry has for hundreds of years spread it's propaganda and lies about magic... that is why so many people fear it. Their fear gives Chantry power.
So?What lies about magic? Show me that chantry lies about magic.You know they may also fear it because you know blights or mage constantly destorying societies?
Didn't i adress it already, like 3 times at least? Im pretty sure i said that chantry has control over issues concerned with mages and magic.
Yeah, you said. A religious organization who has control over kingdom wouldn't stop at mages though. Religious bigots tend to step out of line. I've seen it firsthand.
Laws are made by man and thus can be changed. Of course the Chantry claims it's "the Maker's will." Chantry has for hundreds of years spread it's propaganda and lies about magic... that is why so many people fear it. Their fear gives Chantry power.
How does fear of magic give the Chantry power?
Yeah, you said. A religious organization who has control over kingdom wouldn't stop at mages though. Religious bigots tend to step out of line. I've seen it firsthand.
Yet chantry has no control over kingdoms in any other matter than magic and religion.Plus, only thing chantry did what you are talking about is in Kirkwall toward Arishok, and then we are talking about Qunari that are fanatical expansionists themselves.
So?What lies about magic? Show me that chantry lies about magic.You know they may also fear it because you know blights or mage constantly destorying societies?
I wouldn't be so sure about the Blights since the lore on Blights is ambigious and explains next to nothing about creation of it. Not everything Chantry says is true.
You forget that not every demon that passes the Veil was a demon before. Some of them were spirits, and they didn't really want to cross the Veil. When they crossed the Veil, they were corrupted and became demons. Still, demons freely loiter around, some Chantry teaching isn't going to change the facts.
Someone has been paying too much attention to Solas it seems...
I wouldn't be so sure about the Blights since the lore on Blights is ambigious and explains next to nothing about creation of it. Not everything Chantry says is true.
We have been here before.Nice amount of evidence enforces chantry version (including tevinter magisters that went to the black city) or at least revelant part of it.
Someone has been paying too much attention to Solas it seems...
I tend to believe ancient people, not some ancient corrupt organization.
No it doesn't make them any less guilty (or at least debatable) but it does diminish their danger greatly, considering that cause of that danger was a mage and without him there would be no such situation.Too bad for them mages are still threat to the world.If i recall Arlik did pretty much good job or at least better than Thrask, so i would say somewhat acceptable job watching over the mages as far but could do much better.
Alrik was a templar extremists. It's men like him who are in positions of power and then abuse that power, that are to blame for every Circle Mage who snaps and for all the innocents they kill. It's these men who drive people like Anders over the edge. They alone are to blame - them and the Chantry, who has granted them that power and does nothing to stop them from abusing and mutilating those they were supposed to protect. If you want to see the world burn, then I suppose men like Alrik are your choice for ideal leader.
Red Lyrium exists even without Corypheus. Anyone could exploit that same weakness in hundred different ways. Templars are a mere tool of the Chantry, too bad they have proven themselves to be rather unreliable... a gun that will as easily turn against it's owner as it's enemies. That's lack of freewill to you. Maybe Chantry should consider tightening the leash... templars might be the next group they oppress and lock away in towers, who knows.
Alrik was a templar extremists. It's men like him who are in positions of power and then abuse that power, that are to blame for every Circle Mage who snaps and for all the innocents they kill. It's these men who drive people like Anders over the edge. They alone are to blame - them and the Chantry,
So, all mages are innocent and would never harm another soul unless pushed to it? Am I understanding you correctly?
I tend to believe ancient people, not some ancient corrupt organization.
Too much it seems for an ancient elf.
Alrik was a templar extremists. It's men like him who are in positions of power and then abuse that power, that are to blame for every Circle Mage who snaps and for all the innocents they kill. It's these men who drive people like Anders over the edge. They alone are to blame - them and the Chantry, who has granted them that power and does nothing to stop them from abusing and mutilating those they were supposed to protect. If you want to see the world burn, then I suppose men like Alrik are your choice for ideal leader.
Red Lyrium exists even without Corypheus. Anyone could exploit that same weakness in hundred different ways. Templars are a mere tool of the Chantry, too bad they have proven themselves to be rather unreliable... a gun that will as easily turn against it's owner as it's enemies. That's lack of freewill to you. Maybe Chantry should consider tightening the leash... templars might be the next group they oppress and lock away in towers, who knows.
Arlik did fine job, he protected people of Kirkwall, plus Arlic had very good idea how to solve this problem.If something Thrask attitude was problematic.
It does, but once again he was one that distributed on the surface.Until Corypheus distrubuted it on the surface it wasn't much of the problem.Why chantry would lock in the tower people that aren't much of the threat to the population, plus chantry turned on Templars first, specifically Justinia.
LOLArlik did fine job, he protected people of Kirkwall.
Too much it seems for an ancient elf.
It's really funny how you find some irrelevant picture and post it here. Bet you thought on it too much. Hope it didn't hurt much.
At least he lived in ancient times. Chantry doesn't know a thing.
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Genocide and making people sex slaves. My, what company do Templar supporters keep
You know that appeal to emotions won't disprove what did i just say? I mean you are doing that a lot.
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Genocide and making people sex slaves. My, what company do Templar supporters keep
He is serious. Let me laugh more..
He is serious. Let me laugh more..
Any evidence that what i said was factually wrong, or should i just expect another appeal to emotions?
Any evidence that what i said was factually wrong, or should i just expect another appeal to emotions?
No, using people as slaves IS wrong. It's not an appeal to emotions. It's implied in the game that he raped mages.
It does, but once again he was one that distributed on the surface.Until Corypheus distrubuted it on the surface it wasn't much of the problem.Why chantry would lock in the tower people that aren't much of the threat to the population, plus chantry turned on Templars first, specifically Justinia.
Same reason they lock away mages. It's convenient to have the most powerful beings at your disposal, if you have to, lets say, declare an Exalted March against the Qunari or the elves or Tevinter...
Same reason they lock away mages. It's convenient to have the most powerful beings at your disposal, if you have to, lets say, declare an Exalted March against the Qunari or the elves or Tevinter...
In which way has the Chantry ever used the mages?
Even in Exalted Marches, the only ones we know for sure they fought in were against the Qunari and the Darkspawn, which threatened all of human life.
In which way has the Chantry ever used the mages?
Even in Exalted Marches, the only ones we know for sure they fought in were against the Qunari and the Darkspawn, which threatened all of human life.
So, all mages are innocent and would never harm another soul unless pushed to it? Am I understanding you correctly?
I said Circle mages. Chantry has self-declared themselves as the ones responsible for mages (to protect the world from them, of course...) so when ever their "perfect system to control the mages" fails (as it so often does) they are responsible.
No, using people as slaves IS wrong. It's not an appeal to emotions. It's implied in the game that he raped mages.
I'm still trying to decide whether you're stupid or just a liar. It does not say that.
It says that "Magic is a corrupting influence in the world."
Corruptive and corrupting do not mean "inherently evil". It simply means that it has a potential for evil or a potential to deviate from its original purpose.
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