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[Shechinah]

Twitter is more than sufficient 

 

Heh, I was imagining someone trying to provide in-depth feedback and just as they'd finished with the negative stuff, they'd go; "and here is what I loved-" and reached the character limit.

 

Better yet, the negative stuff would be incredibly vague because they'd be trying to fit in-depth feedback within a small characte limit. 

 

It may be a result of my experiences in school since my teachers expected a word limit like Twitters for things like answers to questions about a text we had to read. Critiques of said texts were expected to have a word limit of 1000 or so.   

[SOLID_EVEREST]

Damn, I heard about this forum being shut down. I can't believe I've been a member since 2010. Just came to check that out before this place goes down the shitter.

[SnakeCode]

Twitter is more than sufficient 

 

 

Have they blocked you yet?

[Seboist]

See Vertigomez, it's easy, the mage/templar debate will never go away...ever,..it will find you wherever you are.

I'm still salty that there wasn't a get out of dodge Kirwall option at the end of DA2 to get away from these two groups of magically corrupted imbeciles and nutjobs.

[Addictress]

If it was your work , you'd feel the same.
You can't ask Bioware employee to come in here and read all the negativity and be fine with it.They are humans with feelings and stuff.
But you can't ask of the forum to be a beacon of positivity .Bioware is not the little darlings of RPGs anymore.That crown seems to be going toward CPsomethingWitcherGuys.
DA2 reception was bad pretty much everywhere , ME3 well the ending...DAI was lukewarm at best.
Throw in there the fact that Bioware took some vague stance on the Gamergate/SJW stuff and yes , you get a volatile community.
There's no other way around it.

It seems to me Bioware didn't really navigate well the jump from small darling of RPG company (when internet wasn't this big ) to what they are today.A bigger company with a more rocky reputation.
Bethesda are way way more professional in their dealing with the public , yes it's impersonal , but first it protects their employee from angry internet mobs , and you don't hear Bethedas call their fan "toxic".
They got the community guy who's on twitter and take the bulk of the complain to his face , Todd Howard is the godlike figure who's good at selling their stuff , and also good at saying "sorry we screw up about this , we'll work on this" .Doesn't matter if he means it or not , people can believe that because he doens't tell the press the fans are giving him a nervous breakdown.There's nothing passive agressive going on.

Exactly. Look at Bethesda: a ton of people complained they didn't like Fallout 4. They thought it ripped off Bioware mechanics, and was just less interesting than previous installments. I also see a lot of negative comments about the amount of bugs and stupid AI in Bethesda games. Doesn't matter - Bethesda let those comments stand and will probably just continue making games. Devs aren't causing drama by closing forums, getting butthurt.

[AlanC9]

I heard from a friend that this was happening it is sad what makes the pain worse is that they chose to keep the SWTOR one online just cause the players there pay monthly fee and microtransactions. This shows us that EA greed is overtaken Bioware. RIP forums. To those who have made this place your home I feel your pain and sadness.

Umm...if EA greed is what's keeping the SWTOR forums alive, doesn't that mean that EA greed is good?

[thedancingdruid]

Sure EA introduced me to the world of micro-transactions...wish they had not.

[Shechinah]

Exactly. Look at Bethesda: a ton of people complained they didn't like Fallout 4. They thought it ripped off Bioware mechanics, and was just less interesting than previous installments. I also see a lot of negative comments about the amount of bugs and stupid AI in Bethesda games. Doesn't matter - Bethesda let those comments stand and will probably just continue making games. Devs aren't causing drama by closing forums, getting butthurt.

 

There are plenty of places that keep forums and a number of places that even keep forums with very low activity open. Shutting down a very active forum with a strong community is a decision that is incredibly odd to me especially with the reasons they gave in mind. It is not a decision that I can see enough, if any, upsides to that outweighs the downsides of the decision.
 

[Rifneno]

I'm still salty that there wasn't a get out of dodge Kirwall option at the end of DA2 to get away from these two groups of magically corrupted imbeciles and nutjobs.

Reject worked so well for Shepard... Then again, some people really thought so. People demanded it so BW got pissed and went "FINE! You want to refuse? MechaCthulhus torture-murder the entire galaxy and everyone you love dies a horrific death!" Some people heard this and went, "OMG! This is the best thing ever!"

... What the hell is wrong with people?

[Addictress]

No, that's the point. Kirkwall became home for Hawke. Kirkwall became Thedas. By focusing on one city and the intimate relationships and situations there, they created a projection of the outer world in an emotionally effective manner. There is no escape from that world torn between these ideas. To run from these dichotomies is to dismiss the gravity of the world-building, for the world is built with mage-templar forces. Those are its defining elements. Of course you can always exit the game to your desktop. I thought it was poignant.

[thedancingdruid]

Rifneno

 

They just want to make the Catalyst disappear or pay for his idiotic thought processes. Nothing wrong with that. Though I would point out that "DESTROY" would accomplish the same result.

[llandwynwyn]

Ahh, Fenris. I remember the first time I played, he turned on me like the beast he is at the Gallows. I didn't realize that was the final quest since the act just started, and I hadn't done the quest with his sister yet. He comes in all self-righteous and murder-happy halfway through the extermination. After finishing, I reloaded from before I past the point of no return and did the leftover quests. Oh my, vengeance (no pun intended) was so sweet when I got to pay him back for his betrayal by handing him over to Danarius. The look on his face! Absolutely priceless!

On subsequent playthroughs I simply avoid ever meeting him. Preferably I'd like to be able to kill both him and Danarius, but since I'd have to eventually side with one and I think they should both burn in hell, that's unfortunately the best option available.
 

Is that your final solution? Err, answer?

 

Weren't you talking how killing Beth is one of the most evil acts in the game just now, Rifneno...

 

[Amirit]

...

O_O

You missed what I meant so far that you must have typed that post from Andromeda.

The BW peeps told us nothing of substance. Was it really that hard to infer from my post who I was referring to? Afaik Chris hasn't worked for BW for a while, so what the hell would he know about the reasoning behind the forums closing? He said his piece, okay. He also repeated what Conel said, about engaging the community elsewhere which we all agree is sensationally moronic.

Just... you wot m8?

 

And you do not believe that some people in BW dreamt about closing forums since DA2, when first wave of strong negativity hit the company? (Actually, first serious one was with release of NWN-1, but at DA2 point company got many more fans, hence, wave was bigger)

 

Well, I believe that that part of the post from Chris was very sincere. And though Chris himself is an ex-employee, he left recently enough and was there when infighting was the hottest. So, the real (or one of the real) answers could be that. Sugar-coated as well but believable.

[Addictress]

Honestly, I'd be mad if I was a Bioware employee who worked on DA2, too. But I wouldn't close the forums. I'd make an anonymous online account and start vigorously debating users and posting threads on the misunderstood greatness of Dragon Age 2, and I'd facking win since I'm supposedly a professional creative who's more adept at words than the average forum user.

[vertigomez]

See Vertigomez, it's easy, the mage/templar debate will never go away...ever,..it will find you wherever you are.

Well, that's reassuring.

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

There were people who didn't like Neverwinter Nights?

[Il Divo]

There were people who didn't like Neverwinter Nights?

 

I really disliked the Single-player. On the other hand, as a huge DnD fan I think the multiplayer concept was one of the greatest ideas ever brought to gaming. 

[Furisco]

Yep

 

[VintageUtti]

I haven't been active on these forums since DA:I, but I was very much looking forward to Andromeda's release when I could get back into it and engage with fellow fans. I wouldn't mind at all if Bioware completely dropped their fan engagement here and just had a moderator to check in on things without talking to us. The discussions I've had on this board with fans (and the previous Bioware forum) are the most satisfying I've had over any other game forum. I could have long-winded yet logical discussions about how the ME3 ending pissed me off but at the same time discuss the strategies and how awesome the ME3 MP was. I met a group of friends where we formed our own forum group and had off-topic and gaming discussions. Now it will all be burned to the ground for reasons I still don't understand.

 

I was an active member of the gaming forum on Rotten Tomatoes, and literally the last 5 years of its existence there were probably at most 50 active members on there, and so many times the forums were going to be shut down but for the effort of the moderators there. There wasn't even a link to the forums from the home page but they still managed to keep it alive because they knew it was important for that small group of people. I don't know how much it costs to keep these servers up, but I bet you if they bothered to ask a lot of fans would help moderate for free.

 

I suppose this is par for the course with Bioware's online actions. First they shut down and migrated the previous Bioware forum and transferred here with minimal warning. My friends and I were all scrambling to find each other again. Then they shut down the Romance threads. Then they got rid of Off-Topic. I feel like we never returned to the glory of the original forums, so maybe this speeds up what they would have done to the forums in the end anyway.

 

I just want to thank everyone here who I ever had a nice or funny discussion with, and I hope that by the final death of this forum we all find a new singular place where we can continue to engage with each other.

[Rifneno]

Weren't you talking how killing Beth is one of the most evil acts in the game just now, Rifneno...

I was talking about how letting a possessed psychopath murder your little sister who's never harmed a soul, for no good reason, as she weeps heartbroken after watching you butcher her mentor.

Fenris is a complete piece of garbage. From his betrayal of the fog warriors who sacrificed so much for him to his betrayal of the Gallows that I just mentioned, I have no tolerance for his crap. See, there's something you should know about me. I'm not a fan of genocide. I think genocide is extremely bad. I do not take any excuses whatsoever for partaking in genocide. I have absolutely no sympathy for their suffering. Everyone who participates at the Right of Annulment in Kirkwall should be executed without trial (unless you count "making sure they took part in it" as trial). And I don't mean something painless, I mean crucifixions, impalement, stake burning, that sort of thing. Every single one of them. Fenris is potentially one of them. Fenris should die screaming in agony. Simple as that.

[ModernAcademic]

Don't mind me

I'm just a sashimi

rollin through the threads

 

[voteDC]

Sad news about the forum closing.    I've always loved lurking here.  Such a boneheaded move from BioWare, which I'm sure has everything to do $$$$.     I was wondering if anyone would could answer a question for me.  I'm sorry if it's been asked before...

 

Does this mean our registered game content (DLCs for DA:O, ME 1&2, DA:2) will no longer be accessible?  I know of no other place to DL them save for the old Social Network.  If so, then where will we be able to get them, because I refuse to pay for them ever again.  

I've got all my content downloaded to my hard drive, and to a DVD collection as a backup.

 

The sad thing is there's more than just ME3 multiplayer data. Thousands of character profiles for DA:O and DA2 exist on the website, and at least 8k modding projects are hosted. I find it really hard to believe they're just going to nuke everything from orbit.

Well it's the only way to be sure.

[Kaidan Fan]

I haven't been active on these forums since DA:I, but I was very much looking forward to Andromeda's release when I could get back into it and engage with fellow fans. I wouldn't mind at all if Bioware completely dropped their fan engagement here and just had a moderator to check in on things without talking to us. The discussions I've had on this board with fans (and the previous Bioware forum) are the most satisfying I've had over any other game forum. I could have long-winded yet logical discussions about how the ME3 ending pissed me off but at the same time discuss the strategies and how awesome the ME3 MP was. I met a group of friends where we formed our own forum group and had off-topic and gaming discussions. Now it will all be burned to the ground for reasons I still don't understand.

 

I was an active member of the gaming forum on Rotten Tomatoes, and literally the last 5 years of its existence there were probably at most 50 active members on there, and so many times the forums were going to be shut down but for the effort of the moderators there. There wasn't even a link to the forums from the home page but they still managed to keep it alive because they knew it was important for that small group of people. I don't know how much it costs to keep these servers up, but I bet you if they bothered to ask a lot of fans would help moderate for free.

 

I suppose this is par for the course with Bioware's online actions. First they shut down and migrated the previous Bioware forum and transferred here with minimal warning. My friends and I were all scrambling to find each other again. Then they shut down the Romance threads. Then they got rid of Off-Topic. I feel like we never returned to the glory of the original forums, so maybe this speeds up what they would have done to the forums in the end anyway.

 

I just want to thank everyone here who I ever had a nice or funny discussion with, and I hope that by the final death of this forum we all find a new singular place where we can continue to engage with each other.

Preach it, sister! 

[Ph34rsome1]

Yep

 

Excellent.

[Draining Dragon]

There were people who didn't like Neverwinter Nights?

Hordes of the Underdark was amazing, as was multiplayer. I wasn't a fan of the OC or Shadows of Undrentide.