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[Zehealingman]

I killed the mages in DA2.

1vs1 me

[Addictress]

I didn't even finish reading it. After you compared blood magic to nuclear weapons, I rolled my eyes and went on to the next message like a sane person. Russia once tested a bomb so powerful it broke windows over 500 miles away. It had a 22 mile "complete destruction" radius. Any idiot mage can learn blood magic, as Jowan showed us. If it was actually even 0.01% as dangerous as nuclear weapons, then the entire world would be long destroyed.

The reason blood magic is hyped as so powerful is because the Chantry is overhyping it because they control with fearmongering. This is extremely obvious.

That's your problem there. You didn't properly interpret the forces of the world as the writers built it.
Many times throughout the games, blood magic is referred to as something as dangerous, or at least abominable, as atomic bombs. If you don't believe this one critical idea, then of course the entire story doesn't work for you.

As I said, they don't ever show blood magic to be that powerful. However, we hear about Tevinter magisters and Evanuris, and they represent the worst of magic.

[ArcadiaGrey]

Hmm.  Decide to drop in on this thread after a day...and it's moved onto genocide.  Ooohhhkay.

 

[Hazegurl]

Yes, I'm absolutely fine with any atrocity you can name being committed upon people who partake in genocide.

So Fenris was partaking in genocide when he was getting raped and tortured in Mage freedom dominated Tevinter?

[byne]

That's your problem there. You didn't properly interpret the forces of the world as the writers built it.
Many times throughout the games, blood magic is referred to as something as dangerous, or at least abominable, as atomic bombs. If you don't believe this one critical idea, then of course the entire story doesn't work for you.

As I said, they don't ever show blood magic to be that powerful. However, we hear about Tevinter magisters and Evanuris, and they represent the worst of magic.

 

Do you always take church propaganda to be the absolute literal truth?

[Ryzaki]

It's a weird feeling because I've been a part of these forums since before 2010 (first account was banned ) so it's really weird my hub of BW info is going away.

 

I'm not sure why they think it can be replaced. It's just...odd. We've been asking for better moderation for years and for it to go down like this is just...saddening.

[Seboist]

Is that an argument for or against him?

Given all the laughs i've had thinking about "frankenmom", it certainly wins him a lot of points in my eyes.

[Addictress]

Do you always take church propaganda to be the absolute literal truth?

Are you unable to separate personal irl beliefs from the world in a piece of fiction?

I didn't say I, Addictress, think that in the real world, blood magic is as horrible as atomic bombs. I said that in Thedas, blood magic carries that impression. All the inhabitants of the world of Thedas react to, regard blood magic as such.

[SnakeCode]

Serious question, has anything good come about as a result of blood magic in the series thus far? Where blood magic goes, disaster always seems to follow.

[Addictress]

It's how you build a character. Even if what the character believes is technically stupid, you observe the belief of that character, then the character takes actions based on those beliefs. Beyond this, I don't think the belief that blood magic is horrible and abominable is that stupid. Look at the harvester, look at Hawke's mother. Look at the evil Tevinter magisters and the Evanuris. magic has in the past scarred Thedas. I don't think we should dismiss the fears these peasants have in that world regarding magic. Maybe we know better here, on the gamers' end, behind the screen, but those characters are not on our side on our end. It's suspension of disbelief. It's world-building.

[Rifneno]

Serious question, has anything good come about as a result of blood magic in the series thus far? Where blood magic goes, disaster always seems to follow.

Yes. Fenris being tortured.

[Draining Dragon]

Did someone say genocide?

[llandwynwyn]

Serious question, has anything good come about as a result of blood magic in the series thus far? Where blood magic goes, disaster always seems to follow.

 

I could use it to fuel my healing spells before BioWare nerfed it. /still bitter

 

No, seriously, the GW ritual. If BW doesn't write it as a mistake in the non existent next game.
 

[Addictress]

I mean how else do you ever sympathize with a character outside yourself in any media? Sympathetic villains. You know they are wrong and dumb but you're still able to comprehend why they do what they do. Because you are aware they are not with you in the audience. I think it's theatrical irony. The audience knows things which the actors in the story do not. So we are on the outside looking in, screaming and crying, watching the tragedies unfold, because of the inherent ignorance of each character regarding the circumstances that are larger than them.

[byne]

It's how you build a character. Even if what the character believes is technically stupid, you observe the belief of that character, then the character takes actions based on those beliefs. Beyond this, I don't think the belief that blood magic is horrible and abominable is that stupid. Look at the harvester, look at Hawke's mother. Look at the evil Tevinter magisters and the Evanuris. magic has in the past scarred Thedas. I don't think we should dismiss the fears these peasants have in that world regarding magic. Maybe we know better here, on the gamers' end, behind the screen, but those characters are not on our side on our end. It's suspension of disbelief. It's world-building.

 

So, are you excusing genocide as long as the people doing the genocide truly believe it is the right thing? Because otherwise I dont get the point of going on about how much they fear magic in-universe.

[Stanry Roo]

Did someone say genocide?

The Genophage never happened.

[Addictress]

Cullen isn't aware of the anti-Christian zeitgeist in 21at century millennial America. He really isn't. So for all intensive purposes, his small-minded fears are justified. He is ignorant of whatever complaints you have on his reasoning. What he has is all he has and he will act on it.

[byne]

So for all intensive purposes, his small-minded fears are justified.

 

Its defiantly a doggy dog world out there.

[Stanry Roo]

Its defiantly a doggy dog world out there.

Doggy dog

 

lol

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Serious question, has anything good come about as a result of blood magic in the series thus far? Where blood magic goes, disaster always seems to follow.

Stopping the Blights. Part of the Joining ritual for Grey Wardens involves blood magic.

[Lady Artifice]

Serious question, has anything good come about as a result of blood magic in the series thus far? Where blood magic goes, disaster always seems to follow.

 

In one of the books, it arguably ended the blight while leading to the extinction of a species (not just any species, but one with significant tactical advantage against the blight).

 

Pros and Cons.

[SnakeCode]

Stopping the Blights. Part of the Joining ritual for Grey Wardens involves blood magic.

 

Yeah but the Blights are only a thing because of Blood Magic to begin with.

[Simfam]

Protheans in Dragon Age?

[byne]

Doggy dog

 

lol

 

Well at least you caught one of the three.

[mrs_anomaly]

Where we gonna have our genocide debates now? And our blood mages debates? And our Cole is too young to molest debates? And our Arishok is smexy posts? 

 

*sniffles into her handkerchief*