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#276
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You mean you're gonna just scatter us to the winds? I don't want other sites. I want this site. I haven't been here long but even before I joined I came here to read other people's thoughts and opinions, frustrations and delights, arguments and discussions, and it's all helpful. This place is familiar and constant. Now I'm gonna be wandering aimlessly and lost between cold, detached and less wholesome sites. This is THE place. The core. A concentration of like minded folks. Whatever other sites I went to, I always came back to this one for more consistent and in depth reading and discussion.

I don't suppose you could... you know... keep this site up and running anyway? By other means? I mean even if you guys aren't coming here to communicate with us, we can always come to you on Twitter, and relay any news and updates to the others here. Even if we're not communicating with you guys, we're communicating with eachother, and that's of benefit to us. Then there's the Twitter threads for those of us who don't want to trawl through countless Twitter pages to get info. 'Gah' incoming... GAHHHH

I don't suppose someone has a very powerful ring of persuasion?


I'm out of likes, but plenty of posters in this thread are spot on and making good arguments.


I'm gonna SERIOUSLY miss you dude. Over the years I always saw you as one of the big posters here. Notable face, notable personality, notable ideas. I'll always cherish the old days.

Maybe you'll cross paths again one day on some obscure fan site, and embrace as old friends.

#277
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Reddit is probably the closest thing to a site that would support any decent discussion but I hate the layout of it.

Yeah that's my feeling as well; its sort of too bad, because there are interesting threads over there sometimes. I just can't stand how the site looks. I like your idea, though (particularly the blackjack and hookers part).  



#278
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I am certainly not going to be going to reddit, twitter, or tumblr.   Bioware is quite literally devolving into just another no-name company among the masses out there with this particular move.   Way to crush the community that has been built up outside your walls there Bioware.



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Consider yourself lucky. Some of us have been around for close to a decade, some even longer than that. To us we have loads of memories, good ones, rushing back. Along with the realization that new people like you won't ever have the chance to make good memories like we did.

 

Actually, you're just as unlucky as us.

 

Im so sorry... admittedly im actually crying... ive already made some good memories... bad ones also... but... this is where I spend most of my free time... now its just gonna go... just like that... its so unfair :(


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#280
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I honestly cannot count the number of times I have visited this forum specifically for the threads of concise, fan-collated information regarding what's happening with Bioware projects. A huge THANK YOU to all of the users who have given hours and hours of their own time over the years toward making this community a vital resource for the dissemination of information that Bioware should, by rights, have been doing themselves. People like BioFan, EP, Hrungr and the huuuundreds of amazing contributors to the Character threads--thank you!

And to the Bioware Facebook page, thanks for....uh....always letting me know when there's a new piece of overpriced merchandise in the store, I guess.

*eats salt right from the box*  :angry: 



#281
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I know ...but do you guys really want elf debate , mage/templars flame war and weird DA lore theory over there?Oh and steamy companions threads?


It's fine as long as they are not Trump supporters or anyone else we disagree with.
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#282
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"Welcome to the BioWare Forum. We envision this space as a symposium of minds where players can share, exchange, and discuss perspectives on BioWare Edmonton and Montreal game universes and products in the Mass Effect and Dragon Age franchises as well as our legacy titles. This place is important to us, and we hope it becomes a bustling hub for our fans." - Our Philosophy.

It did.
 
These forums became a place where we, the players share, exchange and discuss perspectives. There are threads that are born and die in the span of a day and there are threads that are born and continue on for months at a time. We share stories, we exchange opinions and oh, we discuss the games including from our own perspective. What you envisioned came true down to the greek meaning of the word symposium in the form of the Drinkquisition thread.  
 
It may no longer be important to you, Bioware, but it is to us, the fans. If you no longer believe in that vision then have the courtesy to say so because as the quote above seems to say these forums were not meant to solely be about developer and fans communicating, it was also meant to be about fans communicating with fans and we still communicate even if it is without you.
 
Source: https://forum.biowar...our-philosophy/



#283
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Bioware is shutting down their own forums? What the hell are people supposed to do when there are issues with the games or The Keep? How are people who play the MP games supposed to keep in touch in a safe public place? This is one of the biggest FU Bioware could do to their thousands and thousands of loyal fans! DISGUSTING!!! And INEXCUSABLE.

 

I want to post a long rant about this but obviously they don't care. Just screw you fans... we don't want to deal with you unless you are giving us money, after that we couldn't care less.

 

For any one who cares, I host a Dragon Age Social Site that also has a Mass Effect Section and a huge Off-topic section. Please feel free to come by. It will remain open as long as we have members. At my own personal cost BTW.

 

https://realdragonagefans.forums.net/



#284
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What? The only forum I've actively used because of its community and it's shutting down? Great.

This was a great place :/. I don't agree with this decision at all. You are literally cutting a way not only for fans to interact with each other but a great source of feedback by looking at what the active fans talk about and want.

 

You are literally cutting ties with your audience. Twitter is not the same. Reddit is not the same. Facebook is not the same. The dragon age and mass effect fandom on tumblr is known to be EXTREMELY toxic.

 

A game forum is a game forum :/. And with Andromeda coming soon? Wow.



#285
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This is a shame. I know nobody from BW is even interested in reading this thread, probably. But damnit, I've come here in one form or another since KOTOR days and it is literally the only place you can have a discussion with other people about deep lore and the characters. Aren't these RPGs? What am I missing that BW seems to think Twitter is a great replacement for that kind of discussion? It plainly isn't and the excuse given rings very false. 

 

Look, I know there were and are tons of trolls being pains in the ass. But nobody expected devs here anymore, seriously, so that's not a good excuse. Please just leave these boards for those of us who want the deep discussions about characters we love and the stories. Without those things, I'll feel pretty alone in my geekness. And I haven't felt that way for many years now. And BW, I thought you understood and wanted us to talk about your games and dig deep and love your characters? Now it feels like I've been wrong all these years. 

 

Please don't cut off your nose to spite your face. Hurting real fans because you are tired of trolls shows us who is really disposable in your minds. Us. :(



#286
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Bioware is shutting down their own forums? What the hell are people supposed to do when there are issues with the games or The Keep? How are people who play the MP games supposed to keep in touch in a safe public place? This is one of the biggest FU Bioware could do to their thousands and thousands of loyal fans! DISGUSTING!!! And INEXCUSABLE.

 

I want to post a long rant about this but obviously they don't care. Just screw you fans... we don't want to deal with you unless you are giving us money, after that we couldn't care less.

 

For any one who cares, I host a Dragon Age Social Site that also has a Mass Effect Section and a huge Off-topic section. Please feel free to come by. It will remain open as long as we have members. At my own personal cost BTW.

 

https://realdragonagefans.forums.net/

 

What a lovely looking forum! Adding it to my bookmarks!


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#287
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I understand the reasoning behind this. Official forums are difficult to maintain and moderate. Bioware would not be the first gaming company to offload their forum to 3rd party sites. I still sometimes find links to D&D build guides that point to the (now shuttered) official forums for D&D.

That said, I'm very bummed out. The Tumblr and Reddit DA communities are very positive and nice, but the rapid time-decay of the discussions makes it impossible to have in-depth lore, character, or build guide discussions.

On a more human level, I'd miss interacting with the specific people who are on this forum. Seeing Sylvius' posts, never sure if I would agree 100% or disagree 100%. Riffing off each other on the Twitter thread. Casually chatting about favored abilities or teams on the combat forum. Sneaking puns about butts into Solas speculation threads. Hell, speculation in general - the frenzied lead-up to Inquisition was damn fun, in its own weird way. Not to mention speculation about the new secret IP, which probably contains shark-riding vampires in bikinis, based on our expert sleuthing. :D

The forums have a reputation for toxicity, but this is kind of overblown, IMO. Blocking is easy, and the rest of us have had really in-depth and mature discussions about the themes of the games. Even when those themes touched real-world topics, the vast majority of the people here are able to talk about them at length, really unpack them, without flinging feces at each other. I can't find that level of discussion on /r/dragonage, for example, because posts fall over time and people don't have a strong sense of their own identity. User accounts don't matter on Reddit - I can create 5 different throwaways to represent 5 different facets of myself. On here, I'm Arvaarad, and it's more challenging to spawn new accounts willy-nilly.

That makes me more aware of the identity I want to cultivate. When I'm making a post, content quality/friendliness is important to me, in a way that's less present on other communities. Based on the posting quality here (ignoring the trolls, which again, are easily blockable), I think that motivates many of the others here too.

If it's feasible, I would be very happy to see Bioware reconsider. :)

#288
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I"m saddened, but not really surprised.  Was it yesterday or the day before that I posted the thought that these forums might close and someone else came back saying they doubted it would ever happen?  Gah, I hate being right.



#289
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This should be on every page.
 

The BioWare forums are where I truly became “a fan”. It’s where I was able to interact with other fans, share ideas, be kept informed on game development, and form a deeper love with BioWare products. I’ll put it this way: without the forums having been there, there probably wouldn’t be a BioFan today. I’m very disappointed in the decision to close down the forums. Sure there are other social media platforms for fans, but none that quite offered the same level of organized development information or longer-term common interest discussion. If fans wanted to get together to share their love/ideas/theories/etc for a character (like Cullen for example) the forums offered a great venue to discuss the character over a longer period of time. The forums served, for many, as an easy medium to navigate and learn details about upcoming games they were interested in. Other social media outlets offer this, but in a much more limited or time sensitive manner. While the developers themselves may not visit the forums often, it is a well-used venue for the BioWare community.



#290
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Maybe you'll cross paths again one day on some obscure fan site, and embrace as old friends.

 

I've literally been recognized on other sites by sharing the same handle that I do here. So its definitely possible.

 

But man, don't get me started on Sylv and other old friends from here. I don't want my eyes to hurt anymore than they did earlier.


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It's actually quite simple. Any specific questions?

 

Well, I guess, how do discussions work there? I'm familiar with most social media but dislike it because of them being kinda awful for forming a community of any sort, especially one as diverse in opinions as the BW forum. Does reddit accommodate discussions better in some way?



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On a more human level, I'd miss interacting with the specific people who are on this forum. Seeing Sylvius' posts, never sure if I would agree 100% or disagree 100%. 

 

I'm gonna miss those 10+ page epic multi quote battles between me and Sylvius that somehow would turn into a discussion about basic Human psychology like half the time.


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#293
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For quality RPG discussion, there's always RPG Codex, there's even a sub-section dedicated to Bioware games -> http://www.rpgcodex....orporation.105/


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#294
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What a lovely looking forum! Adding it to my bookmarks!

Please spread the word, I really want people to know they have a open, safe place to come to  love Dragon Age / Mass Effect.

 

https://realdragonagefans.forums.net/


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#295
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Please spread the word, I really want people to know they have a open, safe place to come to  love Dragon Age / Mass Effect.

 

https://realdragonagefans.forums.net/

 

As I type this others are doing so in the Solas fan thread. I'll pass it along too!


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#296
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Reddit is not that hard to figure out, sure the interface is something out of the 90s.. but get an app like Baconit or Readit and you're good to go.

 

Reddit features cannot be mapped directly to forums but think of this https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/ as the mass effect forum on reddit, just sign up and subscribe to it and you're good to go.

 

Dragon Age: https://www.reddit.com/r/dragonage

 

 

The problem with reddit is it's not really as easy to navigate, as threads are pretty time-sensitive. Not to mention the fact that you have to sift through piles of fan art in order to find any information about game development. The twitter threads here were absolutely wonderful for staying informed. 



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I don't like 2016, can we re-load a save from November/December 2015 and try again. Maybe try the cheat console.



#298
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...this is stupid and saddening. 

 

I don't think Bioware fully appreciates the amount of information found on these forums. Apart from Reddit, you're not going to get the same cohesive community with user-friendly messaging options in places like Tumblr or Twitter or Facebook. The hell?! Wasn't this new forum introduced a year and a half ago?



#299
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For quality RPG discussion, there's always RPG Codex, 

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#300
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Im so sorry... admittedly im actually crying... ive already made some good memories... bad ones also... but... this is where I spend most of my free time... now its just gonna go... just like that... its so unfair :(

 

If you were around back in the day, you probably would be crying too. Its hard to see the forum's fall from grace and no matter how many suggestions were made on how to fix it, the decision was eventually made to just shut the whole thing down.


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