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[o Ventus]

lmao

 

tbh fam kys ikr?

[ObserverStatus]

tbh fam kys ikr?

smfh

[Dobbysaurus]

Who would buy this piece of garbage?

 

David Gaider

[byne]

Hey my BE Prot Pally is all ready to go, and, Arcann will have to wait, his delay means he arrives to do battle the same day as the new hero class. After yesterday, I will be rolling the demon hunter thank you very much instead. Arcann will have to wait until Thursday with everyone else.

 

But, hey, please still keep these forums open for when I return.

Same. Arcann is gonna wait, gotta hook my demon hunter up with my boy Altruis.

 

Also what are your thoughts on the prot changes? I'm not a big fan tbh

[Draining Dragon]

David Gaider

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[AngryFrozenWater]

Chris Priestly's post here confirms that it is all about negative publicity after the disasters of DA2 and ME3. And that is why the forums needed to be purged. It removes that history.

 

And that just strengthens the thought that BW does not care about this community. Individual devs may think otherwise, but as a company, they shouldn't hide the non-truth (have to be careful here with selecting my words) that their community is valuable, because deleting these forums and trashing its community is proof of that non-truth. If BW can dream up new meanings for "innovation" (dumbing down) and "iconic" (no customization of followers) then I should be able to invent a term like "non-truth".

 

If the company does not want to be treated like crap then it is time to realize that they have treated this community like crap for years, by letting this community go to hell. There were voices in the company who delayed all this, but this wouldn't satisfy those at the top, who kept pushing their destructive agenda. Talking about toxic.

 

The time to close the forums is well chosen. It is in between releases and it is well before the holiday sales. They hope that the public fall out of their decision will be cleared before that. Convenient.

 

Deleting the forums also serves a purpose. The intention is to delete any records of the events. That way the alleged negative information about BW's products isn't available anymore, plus all existing links to this site will cease to exist. Solid plan. This also disables all references from community sites that link to this forum. Another proof that BW doesn't care at all about its community.

 

Closing the forums is also proof of a corporate culture driven by fear and insecurity. If the forum was apparently able to influence the public opinion of DA2 and ME3 (and by extension sales numbers) then potentially the same could be expected for future titles, like MEA. That means that they have no confidence in their own product. And again, the timing is right: Closing the forums before its release.

 

There is more to the timing: A lot of people are on vacation. Interest in games decreases in the summer. So the forums are less active. That's also convenient to deliberately announce the closing on the forums itself.

 

To top it off: No-one is getting an e-mail about the event. So, a lot of inactive users will only notice that the forums are gone, after the event. That's also very convenient. If there is to be an e-mail then it is best to send it near the final closing date. So maybe we will still get one. I doubt it, though.

 

In the meantime members of the forum will be angry, frustrated, disillusioned, etc. They will post accordingly on this forum until the closing date. That serves BW as well. It shows that the forum is indeed toxic and thus, that they were right to close it. Perfect, isn't it?

 

Could this have been prevented? Of course. If customers are not happy with your products then don't throw the ban-hammer to them. Improve your products and invest in the community. If a company does this well (like CDPR has done) then the community will be loyal and spread the word about its products. But you if you don't, then it starts with a dissatisfied murmur and ends with a situation like this. You can be sure, that a lot BW's customers, will not advocate the company and advice against buying the product.

 

It doesn't have to be too late. The ball is still in BW's hands. They can play it in any direction. But then they have to believe in their community, invest in it, and don't give it nonsensical corporate sweet talk. These forum members are too smart for that.

 

I think that BW's train of thought is unbecoming. It tells a lot about the corporate mindset.

 

Some individual devs may not agree what Bioware has done to itself (and are maybe sad about it), but I as a gamer have no respect for the company that proves indeed to be nothing but EA's trademarked Bioware-label.

 

Bioware, once a company to be proud of, and with a gamer friendly culture, has ceased to exist.

[Furisco]

 

☑Overrekt

[thedancingdruid]

I highly doubt we can trust the "words" of Chris Priestly.

[felipejiraya]

Chris Priestley's post here confirms that it is all about negative publicity after the disasters of DA2 and ME3. And that is why the forums needed to be purged. It removes that history.

 

And that just strengthens the thought that BW does not care about this community. Individual devs may think otherwise, but as a company, they shouldn't hide the non-truth (have to be careful here with selecting my words) that their community is valuable, because deleting these forums and trashing its community is proof of that non-truth. If BW can dream up new meanings for "innovation" and "iconic" then I should be able to invent a term like "non-truth".

 

If the company does not want to be treated like crap then it is time to realize that they have treated this community like crap for years, by letting this community go to hell. There were voices in the company who delayed all this, but this wouldn't satisfy those at the top, who kept pushing their destructive agenda. Talking about toxic.

 

The time to close the forums is well chosen. It is in between releases and it is well before the holiday sales. They hope that the public fall out of their decision will be cleared before that. Convenient.

 

Deleting the forums also serves a purpose. The intention is to delete any records of the events. That way they won't be picked up by Google and other search engines (robots.txt was probably not safe enough), plus all existing links to this site will cease to exist. Solid plan. This also deletes all references to community sites that link to this forum. Another proof that BW doesn't care at all about its community.

 

Closing the forums is also proof of a corporate culture driven by fear and insecurity. If the forum was apparently able to influence the public opinion of DA2 and ME3 (and by extension sales numbers) then the potentially same could be expected for future titles, like MEA. That means that they have no confidence in their own product. And again, the timing is right: Closing the forums before its release.

 

There is more to the timing: A lot of people are on vacation. Interest in games decreases in the summer. So the forums are less active. That's also convenient to deliberately announce the closing on the forums itself.

 

To top it off: No-one is getting an e-mail about the event. So, a lot of inactive users will only notice that the forums are gone, after the event. That's also very convenient. If there is to be an e-mail then it is best to send it near the final closing date. So maybe we will still get one. I doubt it, though.

 

I think that this train of thought is unbecoming. It tells a lot about the corporate mindset.

 

Some individual devs may not agree what Bioware has done to itself (and are maybe sad about it), but I as a gamer have no respect for the company that proves indeed to be nothing but a trademark of EA's Bioware-label.

 

Bioware, once a company to be proud of, and with a gamer friendly culture, has ceased to exist.

 

EA. It's all EA.

[Dobbysaurus]

No, no, no, talking about employees past or present is a very bad idea. Keeping these forums open, remember the point of all of these pages is what this is all about.  Not that, that, wasn't really funny. Still not appropriate. Though,. I do not remember them getting along so well in the past. 

 

The future is not looking bright indeed. If that's the case these forums are really doomed, I suppose. Toto, I want to go home.

 

Sorry.. 

 

Spoiler

not sorry  

[Furisco]

Chris Priestley's post here confirms that it is all about negative publicity after the disasters of DA2 and ME3. And that is why the forums needed to be purged. It removes that history.

 

And that just strengthens the thought that BW does not care about this community. Individual devs may think otherwise, but as a company, they shouldn't hide the non-truth (have to be careful here with selecting my words) that their community is valuable, because deleting these forums and trashing its community is proof of that non-truth. If BW can dream up new meanings for "innovation" and "iconic" then I should be able to invent a term like "non-truth".

 

If the company does not want to be treated like crap then it is time to realize that they have treated this community like crap for years, by letting this community go to hell. There were voices in the company who delayed all this, but this wouldn't satisfy those at the top, who kept pushing their destructive agenda. Talking about toxic.

 

The time to close the forums is well chosen. It is in between releases and it is well before the holiday sales. They hope that the public fall out of their decision will be cleared before that. Convenient.

 

Deleting the forums also serves a purpose. The intention is to delete any records of the events. That way they won't be picked up by Google and other search engines (robots.txt was probably not safe enough), plus all existing links to this site will cease to exist. Solid plan. This also deletes all references to community sites that link to this forum. Another proof that BW doesn't care at all about its community.

 

Closing the forums is also proof of a corporate culture driven by fear and insecurity. If the forum was apparently able to influence the public opinion of DA2 and ME3 (and by extension sales numbers) then potentially the same could be expected for future titles, like MEA. That means that they have no confidence in their own product. And again, the timing is right: Closing the forums before its release.

 

There is more to the timing: A lot of people are on vacation. Interest in games decreases in the summer. So the forums are less active. That's also convenient to deliberately announce the closing on the forums itself.

 

To top it off: No-one is getting an e-mail about the event. So, a lot of inactive users will only notice that the forums are gone, after the event. That's also very convenient. If there is to be an e-mail then it is best to send it near the final closing date. So maybe we will still get one. I doubt it, though.

 

I think that BW's train of thought is unbecoming. It tells a lot about the corporate mindset.

 

Some individual devs may not agree what Bioware has done to itself (and are maybe sad about it), but I as a gamer have no respect for the company that proves indeed to be nothing but a trademark of EA's Bioware-label.

 

Bioware, once a company to be proud of, and with a gamer friendly culture, has ceased to exist.

I really wanted to put your post in the face of the devil that made the decision. But we all know they don't give a **** and will never see it.

[CoM Solaufein]

Suckage.

[thedancingdruid]

Same. Arcann is gonna wait, gotta hook my demon hunter up with my boy Altruis.

Also what are your thoughts on the prot changes? I'm not a big fan tbh

I suppose you mean mainly the combo of the two abilities. I'll have to see how it plays, the new animations do look incredible.

But, WoW can never be to me what BioWare is, I play WoW as I have since about '05-'06 to be with my sons. I have always wanted to, when appropriate, appreciate what they were into since they were little.

And naturally, my sons think my BioWare playing is somewhat obsessive, and I admit it, freely, it most definitely is. It was my middle son who told me about the forums, my youngest is now doing the "I told you so" for his telling mom of said forum's imminent demise.

Though they have gifted me, along the way, with an Alliance gryphon, the grey warden sword, a mabari, an elcor, all the ME PoP dolls and this past mother's day, three nugs.

These games, and most especially, these forums are very important to me.

[N7M]

Chris Priestley's post here confirms that it is all about negative publicity after the disasters of DA2 and ME3. And that is why the forums needed to be purged. It removes that history.

 

And that just strengthens the thought that BW does not care about this community. Individual devs may think otherwise, but as a company, they shouldn't hide the non-truth (have to be careful here with selecting my words) that their community is valuable, because deleting these forums and trashing its community is proof of that non-truth. If BW can dream up new meanings for "innovation" and "iconic" then I should be able to invent a term like "non-truth".

 

If the company does not want to be treated like crap then it is time to realize that they have treated this community like crap for years, by letting this community go to hell. There were voices in the company who delayed all this, but this wouldn't satisfy those at the top, who kept pushing their destructive agenda. Talking about toxic.

 

The time to close the forums is well chosen. It is in between releases and it is well before the holiday sales. They hope that the public fall out of their decision will be cleared before that. Convenient.

 

Deleting the forums also serves a purpose. The intention is to delete any records of the events. That way they won't be picked up by Google and other search engines (robots.txt was probably not safe enough), plus all existing links to this site will cease to exist. Solid plan. This also deletes all references to community sites that link to this forum. Another proof that BW doesn't care at all about its community.

 

Closing the forums is also proof of a corporate culture driven by fear and insecurity. If the forum was apparently able to influence the public opinion of DA2 and ME3 (and by extension sales numbers) then potentially the same could be expected for future titles, like MEA. That means that they have no confidence in their own product. And again, the timing is right: Closing the forums before its release.

 

There is more to the timing: A lot of people are on vacation. Interest in games decreases in the summer. So the forums are less active. That's also convenient to deliberately announce the closing on the forums itself.

 

To top it off: No-one is getting an e-mail about the event. So, a lot of inactive users will only notice that the forums are gone, after the event. That's also very convenient. If there is to be an e-mail then it is best to send it near the final closing date. So maybe we will still get one. I doubt it, though.

 

I think that BW's train of thought is unbecoming. It tells a lot about the corporate mindset.

 

Some individual devs may not agree what Bioware has done to itself (and are maybe sad about it), but I as a gamer have no respect for the company that proves indeed to be nothing but a trademark of EA's Bioware-label.

 

Bioware, once a company to be proud of, and with a gamer friendly culture, has ceased to exist.

 

If removing the forum to delete traces and links of the histrionic complaint posts related to DAII and ME3 was the reason for closing the forum it seems counterproductive to give a month warning of closure and extra time on top of that to back up the forum.

Of course, that tinfoil hat seems to fit a few that believe this sort of thinking.

[thedancingdruid]

Wow, so thought out. Bravo, I have just been fooling around all this time. This is really good, the implications are really not good. 

 

But hey, they could still change their minds, right? They could keep these forums open.

[ModernAcademic]

Suckage.

 

Great to receive.

 

Not so great to give.

[AngryFrozenWater]

Wow, so thought out. Bravo, I have just been fooling around all this time. This is really good, the implications are really not good. 

 

But hey, they could still change their minds, right? They could keep these forums open.

There is nothing to stop them, except investing in this forum. There is no willingness, though. They probably want to save their face. In the meantime, the angry posts in this thread all serve BW's purpose. From BW's point of view it indeed proves that the forums are toxic. It's a well thought out plan.

 

Maybe I should add that to that post. Ghehe.

[Seraphim24]

And I can't believe how the people who accuse Bioware of being "soft" realize they are just projecting. 

[phoray]

 

 

Though they have gifted me, along the way, with an Alliance gryphon, the grey warden sword, a mabari, an elcor, all the ME PoP dolls and this past mother's day, three nugs.

 

These games, and most especially, these forums are very important to me.

 

Okay. So, my story is nowhere near the same level. I have not lost anyone to death during the time that I've been on this forum. Your story really clicked for me, because I only recently bought EVERYTHING. I bought the games TWICE, one set for the Playstation and one set for the computer. I bought Mass Effect Trilogy at the recommendation of a forum member because if Dragon Age could be that amazing, then I must surely check out ME even though I am so not a Space Soldier.

 

I know this is going into the Void, but everyone is saying goodbye on this thread and I wanted to share. I posted some of this originally in "What is Dragon Age for you?"

 

To answer that question? Amazing. Delightful. Absorbing. A straight line to the feels. The FEELS. Starting with falling in love with Alistair and talking him into the Dark Ritual with my soul sister, Morrigan, who found true friendship with my Warden... continuing on to when Leandra died in my Hawke's arms,... followed by talking to her spirit in Legacy DLC in Act III.... and screaming at Anders after the Chantry explosion ... and then yet again with the "in the future sacrifice" scene in DA:I Redcliffe, the Blackwall betrayal, the Hawke vs Alistair choice in the Fade that friggin wrecked me (I bawled and called my husband), and what else? The Solas master plan reveal, loss of an arm, and the surprise marriage to Cullen. Squee on that last one.

And each play through teaches me more about Thedas as I get to truly experience it from a different role play perspective. I've felt the glimmerings of what it's like for everyone around you and the very history in your world being racist toward you (elf.) Geralt of Rivia might be hilariously gruff and sarcastic, but just like a book, once you read it once...

I hope to "read" Dragon Age at least 10 times. I have planned character personalities for 12 more play throughs already.

 

But even after 2 playthroughs of each game, reading all the books/comics/some wiki pages... I seriously could not shut up about the World of Thedas. My roommate sarcastically said, "You know it's just a game, right?" I felt slapped. I never talked to her about it again. And I was depressed. I'm traveling, months at a time, for work; I talk to my partners by phone and Skype. I had no one. I felt completely alone, not just in my Fandom, obviously... and I was depressed, thinking I should give up my career change even though I love my job. 

 

And then I found BSN. I found people that loved Thedas as much as I do. My last work assignment, I cried at least once a week being so lonely and homesick. It's happened maybe twice? this assignment. And this assignment was longer!

 

This is 100% due to the community I found here on BSN. This website has helped so much.

 

I accept that we must move elsewhere. But I don't want people to scatter to 6 different websites either. :/ If we scatter too much, then Reddit will be the only Stable and Large sized group and I really don't like that format; also, initially, they treated us like we had the plague.

 

I've been on forums since I was 17, and met my husband on one... I'm only 29 but all these "ways for people to stay connected", Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr, actually make me feel disconnected. Turning off Facebook (I found out my grandfather died and my sister was pregnant by FB-- ugh!) got my family members to actually call me for once. I have never tweeted, tumbled, or reddited. 

 

I have gotten so much value to my well being from being on this site. Let's all move somewhere else together guys.   

[Seraphim24]

Blizzard's ok,  Bioware is better. 

[robertmarilyn]

I like how people still pretend that DA2 isn't terrible in every conceivable way.

 

I only discovered DA less than three years ago and loved it as soon as I started playing. Each game is different but I really enjoy DA2 (although I do think the dropping hordes of enemies and the barely designed, repeated dungeons are funny). I enjoy playing it over as much as I enjoy playing the other two games. 

[Lady Artifice]

But the con isn't killing the griffons, that was stupidity.

 

The con is shorting lives, tainting men, making them go crazy enough to seek the underground.

 

 

Can't those both be cons? 

 

Everyone who payed attention while playing Dragon Age: Origins knows about the negative effects of the taint. I chose a different example. 

[AlanC9]

Deleting the forums also serves a purpose. The intention is to delete any records of the events. That way they won't be picked up by Google and other search engines (robots.txt was probably not safe enough), plus all existing links to this site will cease to exist. Solid plan. This also deletes all references to community sites that link to this forum. Another proof that BW doesn't care at all about its community.

This part is just silly. Eliminating the BSN won't change Google search results. This board doesn't place well by their algorithm in the first place. People link from it, not to it.

[SnakeCode]

3edgy5mem9

[Seraphim24]

Chris Priestley's post here confirms that it is all about negative publicity after the disasters of DA2 and ME3. And that is why the forums needed to be purged. It removes that history.

 

And that just strengthens the thought that BW does not care about this community. Individual devs may think otherwise, but as a company, they shouldn't hide the non-truth (have to be careful here with selecting my words) that their community is valuable, because deleting these forums and trashing its community is proof of that non-truth. If BW can dream up new meanings for "innovation" (dumbing down) and "iconic" (no customization of followers) then I should be able to invent a term like "non-truth".

 

If the company does not want to be treated like crap then it is time to realize that they have treated this community like crap for years, by letting this community go to hell. There were voices in the company who delayed all this, but this wouldn't satisfy those at the top, who kept pushing their destructive agenda. Talking about toxic.

 

The time to close the forums is well chosen. It is in between releases and it is well before the holiday sales. They hope that the public fall out of their decision will be cleared before that. Convenient.

 

Deleting the forums also serves a purpose. The intention is to delete any records of the events. That way they won't be picked up by Google and other search engines (robots.txt was probably not safe enough), plus all existing links to this site will cease to exist. Solid plan. This also deletes all references to community sites that link to this forum. Another proof that BW doesn't care at all about its community.

 

Closing the forums is also proof of a corporate culture driven by fear and insecurity. If the forum was apparently able to influence the public opinion of DA2 and ME3 (and by extension sales numbers) then potentially the same could be expected for future titles, like MEA. That means that they have no confidence in their own product. And again, the timing is right: Closing the forums before its release.

 

There is more to the timing: A lot of people are on vacation. Interest in games decreases in the summer. So the forums are less active. That's also convenient to deliberately announce the closing on the forums itself.

 

To top it off: No-one is getting an e-mail about the event. So, a lot of inactive users will only notice that the forums are gone, after the event. That's also very convenient. If there is to be an e-mail then it is best to send it near the final closing date. So maybe we will still get one. I doubt it, though.

 

In the meantime members of the forum will be angry, frustrated, disillusioned, etc. They will post accordingly on this forum until the closing date. That serves BW as well. It shows that the forum is indeed toxic and thus, that they were right to close it. Perfect, isn't it?

 

I think that BW's train of thought is unbecoming. It tells a lot about the corporate mindset.

 

Some individual devs may not agree what Bioware has done to itself (and are maybe sad about it), but I as a gamer have no respect for the company that proves indeed to be nothing but a trademark of EA's Bioware-label.

 

Bioware, once a company to be proud of, and with a gamer friendly culture, has ceased to exist.

 

 

Yeah that's crazy tinfoil hat all over, plus pure projection, your entire post. 

 

This might be one of the happiest day of my life, the fact that they had the courage to go against the bullies.