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[Wolven_Soul]

I disagree about the toxicity relative to reddit, tumblr, etc, other places, this place was the worst absolutely IMO.

 

This place was for the longest time, even up to the very present, a place which seemed to exist solely to demonstrate just how miserable people with nothing but texts and words could make other people feel.

 

Anyone who disagreed with the hive mind consensus on anything was abused and/or ultimately censored in one form or another, either by continued abuse or just kind of burying threads/commentary in invective and/or other things.

 

I have seen twitter posts where the posters actively pray for cancer to kill one of my favorite Youtubers.  Hundreds of them.  I have seen YouTube comment sections that advocate raping the woman making the video.  I have seen Reddit pages that are actively abusing entire groups of people.  So yeah, I would say that other places are every bit as bad as your making this place out to be. 

[DeaHamlet]

I've used some of the social platforms for years in some capacity so I'm gonna recap my opinions on them since people seem to think these forums are the Big Bad TOXIC!

 

Reddit 

- I love reddit, but it is a mob mentality place pure and simple. If the group-think disagrees with something, it will get downvoted off the main pages. Comments get hidden past a certain number of downvotes.  And if the group-think is against the company, well any possibility to use reddit for hype goes out the window. Reddit is very good at reinforcing the group-think and if that is against Bioware, they will drown and burry anyone who doesn't think Bioware is ****.

Twitter

- I'm meh about twitter, but as an avid follower of certain youtube news shows I very much know what Twitter is used for besides marketing: DOX-ing people, throwing vile threats at people, attacking a person, their family, and anyone remotely resembling the name of the person, threatening violence, racist comments, bigotry, misogyny, and last but not least taking credit for crimes: from taking credit for acts of terrorism to boasting about robberies. So pardon me if I think Twitter is plenty full of BIG BAD TOXIC!

YouTube 

- Oh for heaven's sakes, have you seen the comment sections? That space has even managed to get worse as Google experiments with "improvements". Drama videos, youtubers slinging dirt at eachother, scandals... And if the YouTube community hates something? Oh they will downvote ANY mention of said thing. YouTube is filled with filth if you bother to do anything but just consume. And Bioware will dream for the toxicity of this forum if ME:A angers the mob of YouTube. Oh you think buying off IGN and other BS reviewers will get you support on YouTube?  Dream on. Gamers on YouTube are too hip for BS reviewer websites and anyone with a following can start a chain reaction with one entertaining roast of your precious game.

 

Since I quit Facebook ages ago because it's twitter frivolity to next level and complete BS, I won't give my opinion on the toxicity of Facebook.

Instagram is something I only consume visually and pretend the comment section doesn't exist. But imagine YouTube comment section times one thousand. Spam is strong in this one.

 

Community forums?  Wow, don't make me laugh. I have had the pleasure of playing eastern mmos that have not been ported to US and as a result have participated in community forums a lot to get anything done really. While sometimes helpful, they were filled with such vitriol that you had to wonder if some people were getting way more enjoyment talking **** about the game than playing it (or were they even playing it anymore?!?!). Bioware forums has not even a hint of the kind of vitriol spewed on community forums when a community is fed up with what they perceive as "bad choices". 

[Wolven_Soul]

The choc-chip cookies I brought were fake.

 

They're oatmeal raisin. 

 

Spoiler

 

We must wipe those raisin abominations from the face of the EARTH!!!

[ModernAcademic]

Bioware's too mainstream now. I miss their hipster days.

 

When the company was actually struggling to have some fans and conquer their share of the market.

[Rifneno]

I'd like to hear more about this. Like most right thinking people, the ME3 endings pissed me off, but my coping mechanism was to step away from the boards for a while because it was all so annoying, so I missed this. I assume they won't ban you for talking about it now. Although I guess they might.

No, they don't do it anymore. It was only done because a ton of trolls kept coming after the IT thread. And Priestly is lazy. So instead of doing his job and taking care of the trolls, he banned the topic. I'm not theorizing here, he literally said that was the reason (although he's not self-aware enough to realize he's lazier than fungus). There were a lot of trolls, so he just banned a perfectly valid topic and the only one that was actually praising BW.

I blame CP, of course, but I also blame BW as a whole. It's not like it was a secret what he did, and they did nothing to stop him from attacking fans and abusing his power out of sheer laziness.

[Wolven_Soul]

Yeah. I ranted about it a little earlier too. After they banned the topic, quite a few people went "WTF?! Why can't we talk about this?!" or tried to continue discussing it. Both were permanently banned even if it was a first offense.

And people wonder why we hate CP.

 

 

That makes no freaking sense.  Why ban people talking about a theory?  That's what fans freaking do.  We make and talk about our theories.  Were they just that jealous that IT at the time was more popular to believe in than their own terrible endings?

 

Posted this before I saw you explain things more to Tommy.  Don't know which is worse, jealousy or laziness. 

[Iakus]

When the company was actually struggling to have some fans and conquer their share of the market.

Kinda like now?

[Wolven_Soul]

Yeah. Well, imo Hawke was a Geralt, so that's probably why I liked Hawke a bit more than Inquisitor. I think I would have preferred the Inquisitor, which does have a variety of backgrounds, to have been silent.

 

Yeah, I preferred Hawke to the Inquisitor as well.  In fact I think he was the perfect mix between a custom and premade character.

[ModernAcademic]

Kinda like now?

 

Well, I didn't want to be explicit, but...   

[Seraphim24]

I remember back when the devs used to hang out with us on the forums, when people were excited for the next game, the next installment in the dynasty of Bioware games.

 

But those days are gone. I didn't believe it until now. Not after ME3, not after the Doctors left, not after so many different things.

 

But here we are. Once Bioware was so cool because they were so involved in their community, but those days are gone. They are actively rejecting their community, and going out of their way to keep us from being a community, even on our own terms. They were my favorite developer, and now we're here.

 

The devs who show up every day bringing their A game, you're all aces in my book. Andromeda looks super cool. But at this point... Bioware is dead. Like all the other studios gobbled up by EA over the years. Sure, the name is still there, and even some of the same people work there, but its been gutted. So many of the people that made it great were gone, and now the community that sprung up around it will be gone too.

 

What is the point of making all those great games, of working so hard on them, when you can't even stand the people you make them for so much that you don't want them to be able to get together and talk about them?

 

I've seen plenty of people say it, and now it's my turn. Goodbye, Bioware. I would of stuck with you forever, but you clearly don't feel the same way. Good luck in your future endeavors, and thanks for the memories, because as much as it saddens me to say it, your best days are behind you, not in front of you.

 

Still seeing this posts, utterly oblivious to the abuse that went on here as if there were not intervening factors and blaming it all on Bioware, amazing...

[GoldenGail3]

Still seeing this posts, utterly oblivious to the abuse that went on here as if there were not intervening factors and blaming it all on Bioware, amazing...

'Abuse that went on here" Do you mind going to Reddit for a minute and than coming back here? You'll surely be enlightened, lol.

[Seraphim24]

'Abuse that went on here" Do you mind going to Reddit for a minute and than coming back here? You'll surely be enlightened, lol.

 

Yeah, the "abuse that went on here" not sure how to make it any clearer than that.

[Orian Tabris]

Yeah, the "abuse that went on here" not sure how to make it any clearer than that.

 

Maybe give an example?

[Seraphim24]

Well ask yourselves, instead of "dang paper fragile game devs!" Ask, Is this the system of ethics you all would use on your children or something?

 

Imagine a parent saying to a child "Hey you piece of **** maggot stain timmy you *****ing loser I'll *****ing kill you if you don't get an A on the next math test"

 

Do I go around telling your possibly now broken PTSD'd child to "get a tougher skin?"

 

No.

 

In fact, if I did that, you would possibly attack me.

 

And yet somehow that's completely ok to say (the same general gist) if it's a random Canadien person trying to make a fun and entertaining video game?

 

Grow up.

 

In fact, that's what would prove the point super quick, just imagine a group of people running around and leveling that kind of abuse that matter to you, your children, your parents, grandparents, your employer, your boss, your boyfriend, your girlfriend.

 

Yeah, we're done here.

[Rifneno]

People are talking to Seraphim again? I'd say that you shouldn't feed it, but we've been starving it and it's still here. Do what you want, I guess. Just don't expect logical discourse with it.

[Seraphim24]

You are a child.

 

Tell that to the people that keep reporting me, and projecting.

[Seraphim24]

People are talking to Seraphim again? I'd say that you shouldn't feed it, but we've been starving it and it's still here. Do what you want, I guess. Just don't expect logical discourse with it.

 

Projecting.

[TheodoricFriede]

Tell that to the people that keep reporting me, and projecting.

Hey whoever is reporting and projecting on Seraphim24.

 

She/he is a child.

[JobacNoor]

wew lad

[GoldenGail3]

Well ask yourselves, instead of "dang paper fragile game devs!" Ask, Is this the system of ethics you all would use on your children or something?
 
Imagine a parent saying to a child "Hey you piece of **** maggot stain timmy you *****ing loser I'll *****ing kill you if you don't get an A on the next math test"
 
Do I go around telling your possibly now broken PTSD'd child to "get a tougher skin?"
 
No.
 
In fact, if I did that, you would possibly attack me.
 
And yet somehow that's completely ok to say (the same general gist) if it's a random Canadien person trying to make a fun and entertaining video game?
 
Grow up.
 
In fact, that's what would prove the point super quick, just imagine a group of people running around and leveling that kind of abuse that matter to you, your children, your parents, grandparents, your employer, your boss, your boyfriend, your girlfriend.
 
Yeah, we're done here.

I don't think you've actually been on the Internet long enough to assume this is the worst place of them all. I've seen people on my wikia being viciously ignored as well as being stomped over if their not happy with you, or hate you. People aren't like that here, their better than that. I admire people on here for not being like - it gives me a sense of worth, at least.

[Seraphim24]

I don't think you've actually been on the Internet long enough to assume this is the worst place of them all. I've seen people on my wikia being viciously ignored as well as being stomped over if their not happy with you, or hate you. People aren't like that here, their better than that. I admire people on here for not being like - it gives me a sense of worth, at least.

 

You didn't even remotely address my point, and neither will anyone else here, because it's just too damn true.

[GoldenGail3]

Tell that to the people that keep reporting me, and projecting.

Projecting what?

[GoldenGail3]

You didn't even remotely address my point, and neither will anyone else here, because it's just too damn true.

What is your point, exactly?

[Ryzaki]

 

I got another warning in this thread about the same thing!

 

I don't understand how people can be so mindboggling tone deaf!

 

It's incredible! Oh this is just...this is beyond pathetic.

[GoldenGail3]

 
I got another warning in this thread about the same thing!
 
I don't understand how people can be so mindboggling tone deaf!
 
It's incredible! Oh this is just...this is beyond pathetic.

Everyone on this forum is nuts now..