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[The RPGenius]

What depravity is this?  Discussing Bioware games in a topic on the Bioware Social Network forums?  You diseased, toxic madmen!  Don't you realize that this is why they're closing this place to begin with!?

[Biotic Apostitute]

Okay I saw "holy forums" and immediately the Shame, Shame, Shame gif popped into my mind which took me to Westeros and got me to thinking about the symbols on the zealots foreheads and how they look like DA's tranquility symbol and ....

 

I think I need to finish my coffee first...and then immediately get a second cup.

 

:nods: Romances totally suck. They attract people with cooties and slow down the combats and fightses. Games should be all the sweaty mens with big... guns.

 

 

 

Actually I could be totally down with large sweaty men in a game. As long as there was romance... 

[NoName55]

If you had to kill the geth and got Koris killed, you kind of ARE a failure who cant do anything good.

 

Koris people died, he don't. He can live with his miserable life knowing that his people were sacrifaced so he can live on.

And Geth ... yeah because being hitted by Crucible is not harming them at all. I could do a Control ending ? Ah nope. I can't, it's stupid ending.

Synthesis ? Yeah like really .. everybody will be so happy with it.

 

So I had NONE choice regarding saving Koris's PEOPLE - you know I was talking about his crew on ship - without getting him killed what was pointless, and about Geth I already mention how stupid is Control and Synthesis, so again I had none choice.

Shooting Star Kid don't do any good.

So to summarize if you in this game got Korris saved - you had to kill his crew - and for Geth if you didn't picked up Control or Synthesis you had to make them targets. So ... unless you did those endings, welcome in the club Mr. Failure.

Don't blame me on writing in this game, for future. If it would be up to me Geth would be safe, getting me aid in form of resources without making themselves real target for Crucible with that upgrade.

Ah and Thane would be alive longer since I would shoot Kai Leng in this moments where Shepard had clear way to shoot him without harm to this salarian or Thane.

[Rifneno]

Riferno - Kenson was some educated person. Who had Hackett as friend. Don't tell me that during entire Shepard's career she never mentioned how indoctrination works. It was known from first Mass Effect. So yeah about Kenson not securing entire Reaper tech to easily get indoctrinated ... I thought she was intelligent but no. She was worse than Rana Tanopticus for sake. Even damn Illusive Man was aware what tech could do to your mind.

Yeah, I mean it's not like the first thing that indoctrinating tech does is compel you to stay near it and that it takes next to no exposure to feel the effects of this. Oh no wait, it does!

You know that "bug" where you get where there's a mission on Aequitas but there's nothing there? It's not a bug. I went through ME2 once and saved that mission for last. I made two saves: one where Shepard did this mission and one where he didn't. Then I played through ME3, all the way, with each save. Guess what? Aequitas only blinks in ME3 if you went there in 2. It's the Reaper artifact there, Shepard is being compelled to go back to it. How long was he around it? Like, 30 seconds of shooting husks? That was enough to be compelled long term.

About Batarians, hey I cannot see why they shouldn't been angry. It's not like Humans were some proud race. Yeah they were more like damn bullies. Greed is what humanity in ME stands for really. Batarians get annoyed because once humans have they got into getting regions which Batarians were tried to get and dealing with Council to give them to have some colonies. Then Humans came and poof ! Any effort was lost because Asari and Salarians obvioulsy don't care about any sort of justice. Not until something bad happen to them ...

This is the stupidest thing I've read in a very long time. And that includes the post saying they're shutting this place down so that they can embrace the community. Batarians are sadistic slaving terrorists. Why the hell would the Council come to the defense of a species that's breaking one of their biggest laws (no slavery)? Self-defense is "bullying" but terrorism isn't. Okay, buddy.



SUCH A LOVELY SPECIES!

I hope the Reapers were especially merciless with them.

I know Alpha Relay must have been destroyed. But that doesn't mean I can be happy that Kenson successfully made me into killing entire planet full of civillians. I don't care if they were Batarians - I killed them. Thanks to Kenson ! Who did a huge job for Reapers here to fast their invasion, and blocked any communication with planet to prevent me from warning Batarians.

Yeah, they were totally gonna evacuate 300,000 people in that time.
 

About Geths we won't get on discussion here. I Argued in ME 1 with Tali numerous times on this matter. To put it in short Quarians created them, then Quarians were afraid that misatke of programming where Geth can learn anything usefull wil make them more intelligent. So ? Well Quarians start to try to wiped out Geths. Then Geths answer back with violence so Quarians go away. So Quarians created a mechanical slaves, allowed them to collect data to learn, then tried to killed them/destroyed them because of Quarians allowed them to do in the first place. Argue if you must but guilty here for me is obvious - it's Quarians.

ME1 portrays all AI as inherently evil. It's not until 2 that we find out differently. Do you also complain about that mean old John Connor picking on poor misunderstood Skynet?
 

Then Legion ... couldn't you just mention the obvious to him back there at Rannoch - "Hey Legion, maybe don't upload this upgrade ? I can won battles without your support on battle field - we don't really know what Crucible is but it's main purpose is to attack Reapers, and you know ... Reapers are synthetic so it must focus on their technology - the same technology you want to infect other Geth now ? Perhaps it's bad idea to do this upgrade - the weapon may hit you as well".

You're right, we definitely don't need every advantage against the Reapers. Let's switch to practice rounds the next time we find some.

There was far too much forced drama like Thane useless death, Legion stupid decision and really stupid sacriface etc.

If you thought Thane, the guy whose very character is about atoning before imminent death, was going to live then you need to put down the crack pipe.

[Shechinah]

You know, I don't think the developers of the Telltale series talk on the forums but Telltale still have those forums. It's almost like they know that fans appreciate having forums where they can discuss the game series and gather as well as share information with each other.

[mrs_anomaly]

I always struggle with the Batarian question. But since I always save the Rachni Queen, and always save that Batarian in Omega, I just cannot abide by wiping out an entire race- yet- YET it really BURNS me that they use humans as slaves. Which is stupid. Makes me want to hunt all slavers down a la Fenris style. One of my Shepards had the origin that had an ex slave contact her on the Citadel- can't remember which origin that was. *scratches head* 

[NoName55]

Rifneno  - you have your own opinion I have mine. We can react on each other with disgust if you want, because your entire writing to mine answr is nowhere answer to questions about poor writing decisions in ME 3. Like this with Geth. Really ... you don't got any solid point there. I already have Krogans, Turians, Quarians partially, left out's of Batrian army, mercs from Terminus etc. etc.

What I may need for army is resources. If Geth could get resources in exchange to stay away from battle field to not been used by Reapers ? I am okay.

I got even damn Leviathans to help after all. In the end of ME 3 I could survive war without Geth being part of this army.

You may left your responses away because we won't agree on anything.

ME as franchise is for me dead already due to Andromeda so it's pointless. It's been 4 years with problems of ME 3 writing like why the heck would Shepard just stay there and look how Kai Leng - where she could easily kill him - kills Thane and run away. It's not like it was the only time where Kai Leng showed up.

Need I remind "Wunder Waffe" of Cerberous against Shepard in temple - this damn reflector on helicopter on Thessia ? That was very lame.

You don't even try to understand me and discuss this matters. You only want to argue and insult, at least that's how it seems.

[Rifneno]

I always struggle with the Batarian question. But since I always save the Rachni Queen, and always save that Batarian in Omega, I just cannot abide by wiping out an entire race- yet- YET it really BURNS me that they use humans as slaves. Which is stupid. Makes me want to hunt all slavers down a la Fenris style. One of my Shepards had the origin that had an ex slave contact her on the Citadel- can't remember which origin that was. *scratches head*

I wouldn't wipe them out myself, but I can't deny a wry smile when I heard the Reapers did it. It's not just that they use them as slaves, they're sadistic and abusive monsters. There's varying degrees of how slaves are treated. Some are actually treated decently, although that's rare. Batarians treat their slaves worse than anyone I've seen in any fiction. They surgically implant obedience gadgets in their slaves without anesthetic and it just gets better from there. Did you hear that bit in I Remember Me where a little girl was savagely beaten for "wasting water" because she cried over the fact that those monsters murdered her parents?

[NoName55]

I always struggle with the Batarian question. But since I always save the Rachni Queen, and always save that Batarian in Omega, I just cannot abide by wiping out an entire race- yet- YET it really BURNS me that they use humans as slaves. Which is stupid. Makes me want to hunt all slavers down a la Fenris style. One of my Shepards had the origin that had an ex slave contact her on the Citadel- can't remember which origin that was. *scratches head* 

 

That one I understand, I didn't liked this idea as well. I really don't liked that idea, so any slavers of Batarians I killed without mercy. But on this colony were just civilians like farmers etc, after all you got to met one Batarian who went on bloodthirsty revenge for killing his entire family by your doings .. and also in one part of codex it was stated that slavers were usually banished from Batarian society.

So those who I met usually were outcasts, no better than T'loak for Asari was. Still I wasn't sure how huge was slavery inside Batarian society. Or was it just a rumor, or slaves were used illegal there.

[NoName55]

I wouldn't wipe them out myself, but I can't deny a wry smile when I heard the Reapers did it. It's not just that they use them as slaves, they're sadistic and abusive monsters. There's varying degrees of how slaves are treated. Some are actually treated decently, although that's rare. Batarians treat their slaves worse than anyone I've seen in any fiction. They surgically implant obedience gadgets in their slaves without anesthetic and it just gets better from there. Did you hear that bit in I Remember Me where a little girl was savagely beaten for "wasting water" because she cried over the fact that those monsters murdered her parents?

I'm curious what you got to say about Cerberus with whole Subject Zero experiments then. Or Viggo Santiago another wonderfull human who didn't cared about killing many people and using them.

It's not like Batarians were the only ones who were cruel. Remember Elnora this young asari who was excited when she murdered merchant ?

Or perhaps I need to remind how fantastic were treated salarian workers by this asari Nassana Dantius in Thane recruitment mission.

Heretics were only part of Geth as species, other Geth didn't want go on war with Organics.

 

All species were bad, if you judge them by worst units which you have met.

 

It's been years like two since last time I played Mass Effect so mine recall of codex in few areas is more fading. Besides it's not like I have ever any proof of how society in case of Batarians works .. all I had were some rumors in galaxy, fullfilled with species which don't care or don't really liked Batarians so their view may be subjected to some stereotypes.

[Rifneno]

Still I wasn't sure how huge was slavery inside Batarian society. Or was it just a rumor, or slaves were used illegal there.

Nope, I'm out.

[NoName55]

NoName, are you still on here?

 

My youngest son was going to try and help here with The Keep. He asked me what platform are you using for The Keep? And, what platform are you using to play the game?

Yes I am here. I am using personal comupter only to both things.

[LPPrince]

You know, I don't think the developers of the Telltale series talk on the forums but Telltale still have those forums. It's almost like they know that fans appreciate having forums where they can discuss the game series and gather as well as share information with each other.

 

 

With Telltale I've had to go to their forums and make an account just to report on some bugs with their games. I've had responses to most of my posts regarding support.

[NoName55]

Sorry for the late response to this one. I am still playing catch-up to what I missed.

 

I think it is safe to assume, all of us here, at least in this thread, role-play to one degree or another, or we wouldn't be so passionate about keeping the forums open nor so infuriated at the decision to obliterate their existence.

It's okay I had problems with catching up before here. Glad that one pointless argue here is over.

Hopefully I will never see this person again, or speak with him/her again. It's not like I want to speak with person who doesn't even care to understand that I role play so I MAY care THAT much about Thane's fate and it makes perfect sense in role playing to be upset over stupid way of dying in cut-scene.

 

PS: Nah, you don't have to worry. Finally employee of BioWare catch me up here so now they try to figure out what is wrong with this world state on Keep. Hopefully I will get some answers about issue

[Rifneno]

Ugh, Dragon Age. I hate that game. Everybody keeps bullying the poor oppressed darkspawn.

[MrFob]

Well, this is a real shame. I will miss this place with it’s unique combination of emotions, logic and illogic, weirdness and nerdiness, intellectualism and silliness, honesty and trolling. One thing is clear, there will be no substitute. Where else would we have such in-depth discussions about the physics of Mass Effect fields, the energy requirements of biotics, the morality of loyalty, the nature of a multidimensional universe,  the socio-political implications of the synthesis ending, the nature of artificial intelligence, the finer points of story telling characteristics or about the meaning of life itself (all in the context of BW games of course)? Where else would we simply trade puns, limericks and songs about BW games?

 

Shall we do that on Twitter with its 140 or whatever character limit? Impossible. On Facebook, where the casual consumers will barge into our nerd-discussions with mockery and ridicule? I think not. On Reddit, where every conversation is basically a giant quote pyramid (the very thing that was made virtually impossible on these boards for good reason)? I don’t think so. On Instagram and Tumblr, with its pictures? Not the right place. On one of the Wikis, which are information databases, more than anything? We’d just be clogging them up. On some fan-site? It would be the best option but which one to choose when the need of the site owners to make a mark fractures the fan base?

 

These forums had the advantage that they were specifically made for the community to discuss BW games in depth. They were exclusive in that whoever wanted to participate needed to make the extra effort and register (with their games no less). This “effort-wall” kept the group that was on these boards focused for the most part and allowed even long and complicated discussions. The format of the forum with potentially long posts and multi-quote functionality was perfectly suited to foster the kinds of exchanges that this group wanted and had. At the same time, the fact that these were the official boards from BW for BW customers brought everyone who wanted to discuss BW products together in one unavoidable place: The BW forums. Here, you knew that you had the widest exposure to a nonetheless very focused group of people. None of the proposed alternatives can achieve the same comprehensive, yet selected user base for discussions.

 

Yes, here we relentlessly criticized BioWare for their mistakes but we also praised them for their successes. Yes, we wanted more interaction with the devs but it never occurred to me that their absence would be used to justify the closure of these boards.

 

In fact, the reasons brought forth by Conal Pierse are – as has been pointed out a lot here already – neither logical nor persuasive but hollow and quite clearly corporate blabla in a rather lame effort to put a positive spin on an action that nobody outside of the company itself can possibly call an achievement. Be assured BioWare, by closing these boards, you are certainly not improving your community, you are in fact castrating it (but I suspect you know that already).

In fact, I have to admit, if I am supposed to take the announcement at face value,  I can’t help but feel personally insulted as a user of these boards, who will definitely not migrate to any of the proposed other platforms. If the spin on this really is that closing these boards will help the community, then the only logical conclusion must be that those of us who used these boards exclusively to engage with BW and other BW fans were somehow making it worse.

 

Ironically, BioWare’s closure of the forums has a mild resemblance of the catalyst’s logic at the end of ME3: “We are afraid of what might happen if we let this old part of our community develop further, so we will exterminate it to make room for a younger fanbase, with parameters that are more to the standards that we can work with.”
A rather whimsical comparison, maybe, but still, it made me chuckle.

 

In any case, for me personally, this will probably mark the end of my engagement with the BW community. It was a pleasure to have so many interesting, funny, enlightening and sometimes downright absurd discussions with you all.

 

I bid you all a very fond farewell!

[ladyofpayne]

We get out chevalier follower in another place in another time. Good bye Michel de Chevin!

Sad song.

[NoName55]

Aw, Rifneno is a really great guy. He's just as passionate about the game. He just defends his decisions with the ferociousness of a Honey Badger.

Maybe too passionate, but I can't balme his/her passion to make him blind for others decisions and views which are different than his/her. Still didn't make any sense to me his whole post tearing to me.

 

Yes, maybe here I would have chance to get decent discussion on DA II.

 

@ Rifneno - Poor Darkspawn ? Lol. Actually at this you may be reasurred that I spared Architect so darkspawn may get actual .. I don't know ... chance to be intelligent species perhaps ? Pretty much the very same thing which I tried to do for Geth in ME. Maybe this will clarify mine statement on Geth.

[The RPGenius]

Ironically, BioWare’s closure of the forums has a mild resemblance of the catalyst’s logic at the end of ME3: “We are afraid of what might happen if we let this old part of our community develop further, so we will exterminate it to make room for a younger fanbase, with parameters that are more to the standards that we can work with.”

Oh dear God in Heaven you're right.

[CHRrOME]

In some other news around the globe, Bioware closing its official forums is still very dumb.

 

But they're happy because they now have 1M followers on twitter. Pity they don't see the passion in this forum, and all the meaningful content created by its users over the years.

Some companies have their priorities straight, and some others are a EA subdivision... 

[NoName55]

Um, maybe discussing the Arcitect and the whole spare vs. side with thing isn't such a good idea. Let's focus on the thread shall we and all take the time to read Mr. Fob's really long, probably amazing post, shall we?

I just said this so maybe he/she would understand what I meant about caring on Geth which I mentioned earlier, and what he/she didn't understand at all.

Still main topic is well. Stable ? What can I say more about this decision of closure ? I already said it's pointless and stupid.

I don't want use curses here, and to be honest on this decision of theirs I could go full Dick Marcinko here.

[Addictress]

I'm confused. I don't understand why Aug lives matter is an issue and I also don't understand if the posters in this thread were rolling their eyes at Manveer or at Andre

[NoName55]

I'm confused. I don't understand why Aug lives matter is an issue and I also don't understand if the posters in this thread were rolling their eyes at Manveer or at Andre

I read this too, but I can't help you here because I am as clueless as you are on this.

[Rifneno]

Well, now that you mention it...
 
If the "darkspawn" are merely slaves to an evil ancient elven mage capable or morphing into a dragon...portending to be a god...
 
I might.

They aren't sentient, self-aware, or sapient unless you're stupid enough to make them that way. And you've got to be weapons grade stupid to make them that way since they're a parasitic life form that corrupts anything around them. Why not just make the ebola virus intelligent while we're at it?

[xrayspex73]

Some people say that we are toxic? Today i tried the Blizzard/Overwatch forums and oh my god.

 

We can't have a discussion there. People don't argue. If they disagree with you they just downvote your post until it's invisible.

They want everyone to be banned from the game for the most silly reasons.

 

People really don't know what "toxic" means.

 

This. So this.

 

Blizzard forums are absolutely dreadful to post in.