This is not correct. The earliest leaked versions of the ending have Shepard surviving in high-EMS Destroy too. That's in the version where the kid is still known as the GUARDIAN and none of his dialogue was written yet. Synthesis was about becoming "one with the Reapers," whatever that means.
(I guess there's still time for me to engage in ME3 design history pedantry.)
It means you've been indoctrinated, sucker! 
I like how they say cons around the world but never leave North America.
I seem to remember they had a presence at GamesCon, in Germany, last year, or the year before, but not sure if I dreamt it or read it somewhere. And Patrick Weekes has been to a Con in Australia?
But that still doesn't make them approachable by any means, or their presence so widespread that they can communicate with even a small part of the fandom in person.
This is not correct. The earliest leaked versions of the ending have Shepard surviving in high-EMS Destroy too. That's in the version where the kid is still known as the GUARDIAN and none of his dialogue was written yet. Synthesis was about becoming "one with the Reapers," whatever that means.
(I guess there's still time for me to engage in ME3 design history pedantry.)
Well I heared before release of ME 3 that they had to change entire ending along with parts of storyline which inclueeded not some Star Kid only Dark Matter - you know this topic which Tali was investigating on her mission for Quarians back at ME 2.
Then someone leaked thing about this and yep. BioWare make Star Child.
I may say that Extended Cut did fix few terrible thing in ending, but still I can't tell HOW Shepard was supposed to survive blowing up of this Citadel Central - you clearly see it explode, and Shepard is RIGHT OVER THERE since it was she/he who blowed up the damn thing.
Entire ending is like "Well, kids it is all because of SPACE MAGIC you know ?"
How she survived this blow, and if she survived then how she survived being thrown out back to space ? Or how she did end up on Earth (I guess) at the end where you can see her/him breathing under some rubble. It does seems to me like Earth.
So how was this meeting ? Shepard came into this teleport and what ? Did it teleported her only by mind ? Like .. telepathy ?
Did she was having this entire discussion inside her brain ? And in the meanwhile her body stayed phisically back there on Earth and got hitted by some force from explosion when she decided to blow up Reapers ?
That would have explained her body being with armor under rubble on Earth, because if my memory of this traumatic ending are correct she had NO armor back when she charging to shoot up that thing for Destruction ending. She was in uniform only.
That doesn't work good however when you try to do Control ending or Synthesis since it does require her body to be up there.
Unless Synthesis and Control are means of indoctrination - which as we know BioWare does not like as theory.
I have like millions questions to Mass Effect in general with no answers to it for years.
Oh Synthesis ending. That one was tricky, it was to merge Shepard DNA with everything to make it well all equal. No more synths versus organics because they won't be synths and organics only this hybrids of them. I am not sure how could this merging DNA have worked on Quarians and Turians however since you know ... they have different DNA. It some real utopian idea here.
No. First, we've heard about a ton of cut missions and nothing about that planet. But more importantly, there's nothing more to be done. The fact that it only happens if you did the mine mission in 2 means that whatever the blinking is, it's because of Shepard going into that abandoned mine and burying the Reaper artifact. There's no reason you'd want to go get an indoctrination artifact, and it's buried so it's not going to be indoctrinating anyone new. The only reasonable explanation is the one I gave.
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Ironically, BioWare’s closure of the forums has a mild resemblance of the catalyst’s logic at the end of ME3: “We are afraid of what might happen if we let this old part of our community develop further, so we will exterminate it to make room for a younger fanbase, with parameters that are more to the standards that we can work with.”
A rather whimsical comparison, maybe, but still, it made me chuckle.
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I agree with everything you said. Good post. 
That part made me chuckle as well.
It makes me wonder... Perhaps IT was right after all, but that they forgot that BW was part of the problem. Sounds familiar? BW itself must have been indoctrinated! These are dark days, my friends. Maybe it's best that we leave these forums as soon as possible. Exposure to the forums for too long may cause victims among each and everyone of us!
I'm not sure, but these digital engagement service operators (a.k.a. the undercover mods) smell fishy. What if... it's a long shot... they are behind all this!
*wears three tinfoil hats*
Well I heared before release of ME 3 that they had to change entire ending along with parts of storyline which inclueeded not some Star Kid only Dark Matter - you know this topic which Tali was investigating on her mission for Quarians back at ME 2.
Then someone leaked thing about this and yep. BioWare make Star Child.
I may say that Extended Cut did fix few terrible thing in ending, but still I can't tell HOW Shepard was supposed to survive blowing up of this Citadel Central - you clearly see it explode, and Shepard is RIGHT OVER THERE since it was she/he who blowed up the damn thing.
Entire ending is like "Well, kids it is all because of SPACE MAGIC you know ?"
How she survived this blow, and if she survived then how she survived being thrown out back to space ? Or how she did end up on Earth (I guess) at the end where you can see her/him breathing under some rubble. It does seems to me like Earth.
So how was this meeting ? Shepard came into this teleport and what ? Did it teleported her only by mind ? Like .. telepathy ?
Did she was having this entire discussion inside her brain ? And in the meanwhile her body stayed phisically back there on Earth and got hitted by some force from explosion when she decided to blow up Reapers ?
That would have explained her body being with armor under rubble on Earth, because if my memory of this traumatic ending are correct she had NO armor back when she charging to shoot up that thing for Destruction ending. She was in uniform only.
That doesn't work good however when you try to do Control ending or Synthesis since it does require her body to be up there.
Unless Synthesis and Control are means of indoctrination - which as we know BioWare does not like as theory.
I have like millions questions to Mass Effect in general with no answers to it for years.
Oh Synthesis ending. That one was tricky, it was to merge Shepard DNA with everything to make it well all equal. No more synths versus organics because they won't be synths and organics only this hybrids of them. I am not sure how could this merging DNA have worked on Quarians and Turians however since you know ... they have different DNA. It some real utopian idea here.
They just made it up as they went along. It really is that simple. The ending made no sense because it was sloppy work.
And you're right, it is. EC solved nothing. The real problem with the endings, if you take them literally, is that they're completely contradictory to many of the game's main themes. The Reapers are sadistic, cruel, and full of malice. The lore is swamped with instances of completely unnecessary cruelty toward their victims. They aren't doing it to "save" anyone except themselves. But things like that weren't fixed. Stupid, terrible complaints like "wut about my waifu?!" were addressed.
But there's a reason the original game didn't have epilogues: it's supposed to be ambiguous what really happened after the decision.
Well I heared before release of ME 3 that they had to change entire ending along with parts of storyline which inclueeded not some Star Kid only Dark Matter - you know this topic which Tali was investigating on her mission for Quarians back at ME 2.
Then someone leaked thing about this and yep. BioWare make Star Child.
I may say that Extended Cut did fix few terrible thing in ending, but still I can't tell HOW Shepard was supposed to survive blowing up of this Citadel Central - you clearly see it explode, and Shepard is RIGHT OVER THERE since it was she/he who blowed up the damn thing.
Entire ending is like "Well, kids it is all because of SPACE MAGIC you know ?"
How she survived this blow, and if she survived then how she survived being thrown out back to space ? Or how she did end up on Earth (I guess) at the end where you can see her/him breathing under some rubble. It does seems to me like Earth.
So how was this meeting ? Shepard came into this teleport and what ? Did it teleported her only by mind ? Like .. telepathy ?
Did she was having this entire discussion inside her brain ? And in the meanwhile her body stayed phisically back there on Earth and got hitted by some force from explosion when she decided to blow up Reapers ?
That would have explained her body being with armor under rubble on Earth, because if my memory of this traumatic ending are correct she had NO armor back when she charging to shoot up that thing for Destruction ending. She was in uniform only.
That doesn't work good however when you try to do Control ending or Synthesis since it does require her body to be up there.
Unless Synthesis and Control are means of indoctrination - which as we know BioWare does not like as theory.
I have like millions questions to Mass Effect in general with no answers to it for years.
Oh Synthesis ending. That one was tricky, it was to merge Shepard DNA with everything to make it well all equal. No more synths versus organics because they won't be synths and organics only this hybrids of them. I am not sure how could this merging DNA have worked on Quarians and Turians however since you know ... they have different DNA. It some real utopian idea here.
Well IMO you have several options. ME3 ends shortly after Anderson does, add your own headcanon. Pick Refuse as it's the easiest ending to understand. It was the one I picked by mistake as I shot the Starchild in the face through frustration. Go with embracing the green space magic, as everyone I could save I did in my original pre EC playthrough, and now everything including plants has circuitry! Pick an ending that goes with how you play Shepard and head cannon anything that doesn't make sense. Or go mad..as the plot of ME3 causes some serious overthinking to make any sense out of it.
Well I heared before release of ME 3 that they had to change entire ending along with parts of storyline which inclueeded not some Star Kid only Dark Matter - you know this topic which Tali was investigating on her mission for Quarians back at ME 2.
Then someone leaked thing about this and yep. BioWare make Star Child.
I think this wasn't fixed because Bio didn't perceive it. Drew K. was flirting with the Reapers being the good guys all along in the proposed Dark Energy plot too.
The people who told you that were idiots. Those leaked documents are still around, and the Dark Energy plot isn't in them. Look for yourself.
I don't know exacly what was there because at that one time there was several theories, the most memorable was about Dark Energy.
Now since I know it's not Dark Energy in these documents I am not sure if I even want to bother with this. It won't change anything. It won't make ME live again for me. It will be just another total waste unless these leaked documents would have plot even worse than space magic ending.
Destroy4lyfe, man.
For that last breath.
#AlwaysRedFU
Edmonton is helping with ME:A and making Secret IP nothing confirmed for DA4 yet.
The dark energy thing was pretty clearly, IMO, just another vehicle for IT. It still boils down to the exact same thing: the Reapers tell you some stupidass story and try to get you to stray from the path of destroying them. Only thing that changed was the lie. Once they've convinced you not to destroy them, like they did TIM, they've got you.
I've ben a forum member here for a fairly long time and I remember a post in the old BioBoards suggesting reading about social networks.
There was a discussion about forums in general and, though I don't remember who posted it, but there was a link to an observation of how forums can be self-destructive that may be culmination of the BioWare Forums and their incarnations that may well be relevant here.
Suggested reading: http://shirky.com/wr...roup_enemy.html
I don't know exacly what was there because at that one time there was several theories, the most memorable was about Dark Energy.
Now since I know it's not Dark Energy in these documents I am not sure if I even want to bother with this. It won't change anything. It won't make ME live again for me. It will be just another total waste unless these leaked documents would have plot even worse than space magic ending.
I've ben a forum member here for a fairly long time and I remember a post in the old BioBoards suggesting reading about social networks.
There was a discussion about forums in general and, though I don't remember who posted it, but there was a link to an observation of how forums can be self-destructive that may be culmination of the BioWare Forums and their incarnations that may well be relevant here.
Suggested reading: http://shirky.com/wr...roup_enemy.html
That would make sense, but not for the part that BioWare really benefit from having this forum.
It was vital for them to know what people thought here about their games.
Not to mention BioWare destroying BSN along with service of tech support to their own creations seems to me like shoot in their own foot.
Well, of course you'd believe that. And, again, the leaks and interviews don't show any sign of your theory. (I know you know that; I'm just filling in the peanut gallery.)
Right, because all the IT'ers think the dark energy plot was going to be the same thing.
That's sarcasm, BTW. I've only met one other IT'er who thought that. Ironically, I think it was BansheeOwnage.
You seriously think it's just a coincidence that both Karpyshyn's dark energy ending and the ending we got both involve the Reapers trying to talk Shepard out of destroying them?
What are the chances that Bioware being unusually silent about Andromeda is tied to the decision to close the forums?
Any big reveal or announcement about an upcoming games is likely to draw in new users registering or bringing back long time posters who take lengthy breaks between games. The forums always get a lot more active after the first big reveal. Avoiding an info dump on Andromeda for so long keeps the forum population manageably low right when you're about to nuke it.
Well, if you're going make an argument about the leaks changing the direction of the game, it would really help if you knew what was in the leaks. Or at least if you'd talked to people who had read them rather than people who hadn't.
Not worse. It's just about the same,
But yeah, you shouldn't bother. I can think of only one substantive change, and it would just make you feel bad.
I stated before that there ware leaks and other things. In other post I stated that I didn't played ME like for 2 years now.
Those leaks happened before March of 2012, and we now have August of 2016. It's reasonable to not remember that thing, especially when we talk about game which damn traumatized me with's horrible ending and some really bad writing decisions along with storyline. (Thane !!! Legion !!!)
I did read about Dark Matter theory before ME 3 came out and that's why it's sticked in mine mind - it seemed more interesting than any other.
And I thought that in this time BioWare was like destroying every data of this theory since people were just in some mess with it - like some hysteria ?
And BioWare acted as hysterical and paranoid as it is acting now with banning people for being funny. So this theory seemed very suspicious.
Not to mention I thrown out any discussions about that particular ending right after I got to see it for myself. During game I also didn't spoke with anybody on any forum because of dangerous spoilers. If I could read on forums perhaps I would never been subjected into this trauma.
I don't enjoy getting on subjects which really made me depressed, and this one certainly did.
I just gave up, and that's the saddest thing which any creator should expect from fan. Giving up.
I never thought that Mass Effect will be in anything like Failout 3 and poof ! There it was.
Both dissapointed me with leading into trauma and depression. Only Failout did it much worse by entire experiance, while ME 3 did it just with ending itself.
One change making me feel bad ? What is it ? Now you got me curious, did they actually killed out entire crew or something ?
I thought the most terrible ending variation was the original one, and now you mention something worse ? There is somewhere link to those data with ending ?
Right, because all the IT'ers think the dark energy plot was going to be the same thing.
That's sarcasm, BTW. I've only met one other IT'er who thought that. Ironically, I think it was BansheeOwnage.
You seriously think it's just a coincidence that both Karpyshyn's dark energy ending and the ending we got both involve the Reapers trying to talk Shepard out of destroying them?
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