I once messaged Casey Hudson on Facebook (back when it was possible to PM anyone and they would get an instant notification). Told him how much I appreciated the ME series and that I was looking forward to ME3. He replied within a few hours with a great and humble response.
I miss that BioWare.
I'm back. But a lot of my posts are gone.
I can't wait for the last day to say some cool things...
Spoiler ahead: I will use this music.
Only downside I see in the transfer right now is that anything that was in spoiler brackets here can't be opened in the spoiler brackets there. Which I see as an acceptable loss for a transfer of this scale.
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Hey, everyone!
In order to provide a better experience on our forums, we have decided to reduce the number of public boards. These changes will take place over the course of today (Monday, August 24th).
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Finally, we have removed the Off-Topic boards. We want to keep the conversations on our boards focused on BioWare and our games. Since other communities do exist for such off-topic discussions, we feel it's important to foster conversations within our community that can't be found outside these boards.
Thanks,
The BioWare Team
...They're about to find out they're just replacing one group of undesirable fans for another group of undesirable fans. What will they do, then? Blame the new fanbase? Blame the internet's general aggressiveness? Who'll be EA's new scapegoat, then?
This is hilarious.
I wouldn't be surprised 
What Bioware doesn't consider is that most of us have been playing their games for years. Even if there was something that we didn't like about their new games nostalgia still made most of us support them. The "new" fans won't have that attachment if they won't like Andromeda then they'll won't be buying Biowares next game.
... the online abuse originating from people at *'s BSN
Bioware - based on previous performance, I am preparing for the worst, but will ask to confirm
- is private messaging being removed?
- is the toolset wiki being removed?
- are the projects going to be removed/unsupported?
- could the toolset forum be left as 'read only' since some of that information was never moved to a wiki?
- could the 'technical support' forums be left as 'read only' since that information isn't available anywhere else?
- is Origin support going to receive more training since their current default is to suggest the forum for any questions (technical support) about DA games?
- are groups going to be removed/become inactive?
If these questions have been answered on some other form of social media, I would appreciate it if someone could copy/paste the answers or provide a link.
Bioware please reply. We love DAO modding.
Well, time to make my daily post about how ill thought out this whole thing is. Forgive any typos and particularly bad grammar. I woke up with the stomach flu and it's not been a fun morning.
Anyway, it occurred to me that they aren't just negating the fan posts. There is a lot of confirmations about lore, gameplay mechanic and general interaction with the fans. To me, that means that not only do the posters here disposable, but so is any dev/writer that ever came by here to chat.
"You guys built wikis." Yeah, some really dedicated fans did do that. However, those are in real jeopardy, even as people are getting things archived. There are conversations and statements made by the devs/writers that don't exist anywhere else. They aren't comments on facebook or twitter. I haven't bothered mentioning Instagram because that sounds so out of touch that it isn't worth mentioning all that much.
This is just awful. All those years of lore confirmation, various mechanics by the devs and writers are getting flushed down the drain. Far as I can tell, that seems really disrespectful.
"Well, we've decided that the forums need to be erased. It's not like it has anything useful from the employees that work there. Good riddance, and the devs that posted there were idiots in the first place. The only ones that are okay are the ones that posted and now see the error of their ways."
You know, I'd like to hear one person address the deletion. Just one. This isn't something that's going to be hidden like a bad pimple. Gaming and tech news has been all over this. I don't give a flying pyjak if it's PR speak, just something. They love to go on about how much better Twitter and the like are for interacting with their fans. But the fact that this is all getting erased? Not a peep. It comes across as cowardly to me.
...I'm not into company bashing. I'm also not a fan of wearing a tinfoil hat. That being said, I can't help but feel like BioWare is in danger of becoming an EA shell. Existing in name, but with EA picked employees with cookie cutter stories that have all the depth of mental junkfood.
You know what I'm really curious about. The next convention they'll be in. Because I'm almost sure one of us is going to attend said convention and when the time for the Q&A comes I bet someone will ask them about this, face to face, in front of a crowd, cameras and possibly being streamed.
How will that go for marketing and pr, huh? Will we get a nonsense. rehearsed reply, a "next question", will they call us toxic again?
And aside from fans, they should remember gaming and media in general have turned towards sensasionalism, because drama drives clicks? You know what many media outlets could start asking them about to make sure people will read/watch their interviews? Or maybe they'll specifically state that they won't answer that question so they don't ask about it...until someone mentions that to get a new article on a slow news day.
Or how about the few gaming critics that dare ask those kind of questions, will Bioware be ignoring them now?
Because here's the thing, there is next to no information on Andromeda, so this drama here is about the only interesting question media outlets can ask Bioware right now. Well and related things like "Did you do it because you think ME:A is not going to be good and you didn't want a repeat of ME3?" "Will you all have to look for new jobs after ME:A?" Because plausible or not, one of those question can make for a clickbait title to an interview, and media nowadays loves that.
P.S. Save yourself this trouble while you still can Bioware. Keep the forums. We can forgive, let this be just the Summer 2016 anecdote.
P.P.S. Shut up cynical self.
Yeah to delete years of debate, theories and lore corrections is just foolish.
I'd imagine us fans having the gall to correct BW on anything is part of the reason the forums are getting axed.
"You guys built wikis." Yeah, some really dedicated fans did do that. However, those are in real jeopardy, even as people are getting things archived. There are conversations and statements made by the devs/writers that don't exist anywhere else. They aren't comments on facebook or twitter. I haven't bothered mentioning Instagram because that sounds so out of touch that it isn't worth mentioning all that much.
The big thing is that posters on this site have posted very valuable information about the games that can't be found anywhere else.
How to do a playthrough this way or that way? How to make the most of whatever class you're playing? What happens if I do this instead of that? Many other things.
Sad, I didn't post much but read a bunch. DAO hooked me and the forums landed me. I hope you have a sound business plan to keep your community members as customers. I don't tweet, or Facebook. I Youtube and read blogs. I'll probably be the type of customer that can be an acceptable loss. I truly hope not. My DAO quote. Ruck in Ortan Thaig
“Once you take in the darkness, you not miss the light so much. You know, do you not? Ruck sees you, he sees the darkness inside you.”
"Nonononono! No Filda! No mother! No warm blanket and stew and pillow and soft words! Ruck doesn't deserve good memories! No,no, NO!" -RUCK
Thanks for the Years.
LP one thing I will miss about the BSN is your constant references to your post count
Should've seen me when I found out I was top. I wasn't expecting it as we didn't know our post counts between late 09-early 14.
You know what I'm really curious about. The next convention they'll be in. Because I'm almost sure one of us is going to attend said convention and when the time for the Q&A comes I bet someone will ask them about this, face to face, in front of a crowd, cameras and possibly being streamed.
How will that go for marketing and pr, huh? Will we get a nonsense. rehearsed reply, a "next question", will they call us toxic again?
And aside from fans, they should remember gaming and media in general have turned towards sensasionalism, because drama drives clicks? You know what many media outlets could start asking them about to make sure people will read/watch their interviews? Or maybe they'll specifically state that they won't answer that question so they don't ask about it...until someone mentions that to get a new article on a slow news day.
Or how about the few gaming critics that dare ask those kind of questions, will Bioware be ignoring them now?
Because here's the thing, there is next to no information on Andromeda, so this drama here is about the only interesting question media outlets can ask Bioware right now. Well and related things like "Did you do it because you think ME:A is not going to be good and you didn't want a repeat of ME3?" "Will you all have to look for new jobs after ME:A?" Because plausible or not, one of those question can make for a clickbait title to an interview, and media nowadays loves that.
P.S. Save yourself this trouble while you still can Bioware. Keep the forums. We can forgive, let this be just the Summer 2016 anecdote.
P.P.S. Shut up cynical self.
The gaming media will side against gamers every single time. If this ever becomes a topic, it will be a "Toxic Gamers Force Developer To Shut Down Forum" type deal. If BioWare tells them we're toxic, then toxic we are. Gaming media hate their audience even more than BioWare does.
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Well, time to make my daily post about how ill thought out this whole thing is. Forgive any typos and particularly bad grammar. I woke up with the stomach flu and it's not been a fun morning.
Anyway, it occurred to me that they aren't just negating the fan posts. There is a lot of confirmations about lore, gameplay mechanic and general interaction with the fans. To me, that means that not only are the posters here disposable, but so is any dev/writer that ever came by here to chat.
"You guys built wikis." Yeah, some really dedicated fans did do that. However, those are in real jeopardy, even as people are getting things archived. There are conversations and statements made by the devs/writers that don't exist anywhere else. They aren't comments on facebook or twitter. I haven't bothered mentioning Instagram because that sounds so out of touch that it isn't worth mentioning all that much.
This is just awful. All those years of lore confirmation, various mechanics by the devs and writers are getting flushed down the drain. Far as I can tell, that seems really disrespectful.
"Well, we've decided that the forums need to be erased. It's not like it has anything useful from the employees that work here. Good riddance, and the devs that posted there were idiots in the first place. The only ones that are okay are the ones that posted and now see the error of their ways."
You know, I'd like to hear one person address the deletion. Just one. This isn't something that's going to be hidden like a bad pimple. Gaming and tech news has been all over this. I don't give a flying pyjak if it's PR speak, just something. They love to go on about how much better Twitter and the like are for interacting with their fans. But the fact that this is all getting erased? Not a peep. It comes across as cowardly to me.
...I'm not into company bashing. I'm also not a fan of wearing a tinfoil hat. That being said, I can't help but feel like BioWare is in danger of becoming an EA shell. Existing in name, but with EA picked employees with cookie cutter stories that have all the depth of mental junkfood.
I wish I was half as eloquent as you Nat in describing my views and feelings about this whole mess. Such a shame that it was the closing of the Bioware Forums that brought you back to us(unless you were lurking before and I didn't notice).
I'm still annoyed that I had to find out about the closure from DG's tweet crowing about the closure.
The gaming media will side against gamers every single time. If this ever becomes a topic, it will be a "Toxic Gamers Force Developer To Shut Down Forum" type deal. If BioWare tells them we're toxic, then toxic we are. Gaming media hate their audience even more than BioWare does.
It's best look at gaming media with skepticism right now.
I wouldn't be surprised
What Bioware doesn't consider it that most of us have been playing their games for years. Even if there was something that we didn't like about their new games nostalgia still made most of us support them. The "new" fans won't have that attachment if they won't like Andromeda then they'll won't be buying Biowares next game.
Oh I intend to warn any "new fans" I come across just how much Bioware actually values them...
You know, I'd like to hear one person address the deletion. Just one. This isn't something that's going to be hidden like a bad pimple. Gaming and tech news has been all over this. I don't give a flying pyjak if it's PR speak, just something. They love to go on about how much better Twitter and the like are for interacting with their fans. But the fact that this is all getting erased? Not a peep. It comes across as cowardly to me.
You are absolutely right on that point. As the years have gone by we have been spending more time on other sites and spaces and less time on our own boards. This was unfair to those of you who use our forums.
We took a hard look at how we were engaging our community, and made the difficult decision to focus on fostering conversations in these new spaces, and to close our forums.
Oh I intend to warn any "new fans" I come across just how much Bioware actually values them...
You and me both.
The wikis made by the fans are filled with sources. That many of those sources are linked to HERE is something you folks have forgotten. Info will have to be removed and or constantly declared false due to lack of sources. Not to mention, in the future, filling up those wikis will get harder and harder due to lack of contact.
A wiki is a CONSOLIDATED SOURCE OF OUTSIDE INFORMATION. This is INTERNAL. They cannot replace the other.
It's best look at gaming media with skepticism right now.
"Skepticism" is being mild, it's easier to find a publication covering a topic like this that DOESN'T immediately demonize gamers (the same people who make up the core readership of said publications, making the vilification all the more bizarre). Any time a gaming outlet addresses a topic that doesn't immediately concern a game, I just assume it's an agenda being driven, and I'm right 9 times out of 10.
You NEVER see the "other side" being given any credibility, it's always the same stream of "gamers r ebil misogynerds driving their developers away" or other some such garbage, and then when the idiots who write this crap inevitably receive flak (because insulting your audience tends to make them hate you in return), they run to their echo chamber on Twitter about the mean bullies, when they're the ones deliberately provoking responses.
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