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[Alan Rickman]

This need not be the end, my friends. Come on over: http://bsn.boards.net/

We already have threads on pubic hair. It'll be like you never left.

 

I am Alan Rickman, and I approve this message.

[Fiery Phoenix]

*snipped*

Another great post. It has been stated a few times throughout this thread, but something about the closure/deletion isn't adding up with regards to MEA. It really makes you wonder how the game is coming along and what BioWare's expectations for it are, having decided to shut down the forums mere months before launch.

[AtalaSirion]

This need not be the end, my friends. Come on over: http://bsn.boards.net/

We already have threads on pubic hair. It'll be like you never left.

 

I am Alan Rickman, and I approve this message.

oh i already am there

[FKA_Servo]

A rare TL;DR, since this is huge: I'm angry and I won't waste my time and insulting or threatening BW employees. I will spread the word that this company has so little faith in their product that they must delete the forums. I'm also curious to see if they'll ever talk about the deletion.

 

FWIW, in the off chance that they show their faces at NYCC, I'll be bringing it up.

 

To clarify, I won't be a mic jerk about it, but I'll broadcast my disappointment face to face.

[AbsintheDragonfly]

This need not be the end, my friends. Come on over: http://bsn.boards.net/

We already have threads on pubic hair. It'll be like you never left.

 

I am Alan Rickman, and I approve this message.

Are there golden spoons there?

[Fiery Phoenix]

FWIW, in the off chance that they show their faces at NYCC, I'll be bringing it up.

I find it hilarious that they mention shows and events as one of the alternatives to the forum. Not only do those occur only a handful of times a year (and usually sell out too fast), they are also restricted to very limited geographical locations. It's almost like BioWare thinks its fanbase is limited to North America.

[Alan Rickman]

Are there golden spoons there?

 

No Yes.

[Grieving Natashina]

I find it hilarious that they mention shows and events as one of the alternatives to the forum. Not only do those occur only a handful of times a year (and usually sell out too fast), they are also restricted to very limited geographical locations. It's almost like BioWare thinks its fanbase is limited to North America.

The reactions have given me a bit of a mean chuckle though. My favorite was when I saw someone from Lebanon asking when BioWare was going to appear at a con there.

[LPPrince]

The reactions have given me a bit of a mean chuckle though. My favorite was when I saw someone from Lebanon asking when BioWare was going to appear at a con there.

 

 

Yeah, good luck with that one.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Fact is: There's no proper substitute for a forum besides, y'know, another forum. That's just how it is. You don't replace the O with something else and expect to still have H2O. Social media venues like Facebook and Twitter are complementary, not a substitute.

[Alan Rickman]

The reactions have given me a bit of a mean chuckle though. My favorite was when I saw someone from Lebanon asking when BioWare was going to appear at a con there.

 

Seems like a lovely town, I'm sure they'll go there eventually.

 

https://en.wikipedia...banon,_Kentucky

[ModernAcademic]

yeah I understand wanting the forums to be put into a read-only state. I just don't understand why they can't remain available in read-only. 

 

That's the heart of the matter. Their intent is not to just close the forums. That's what Bioware claims.

 

It's to eliminate all evidence of the past interactions of Bioware with its fanbase concerning some of the loudest episodes, such as the ME3 endings.

[Grieving Natashina]

Yeah, good luck with that one.

<snicker> No doubt.

Also, conventions aren't cheap. Even if you don't have to travel far, the tickets themselves are expensive. The meet and greet lines can get insanely long and panels for things like BioWare games tend to get packed.

So if you have the time; the disposable income; and live with in the right continent, then you might get lucky and pop off a question that takes more than 140 characters for an answer. Alrighty then.

[LPPrince]

<snicker> No doubt.

Also, conventions aren't cheap. Even if you don't have to travel far, the tickets themselves are expensive. The meet and greet lines can get insanely long and panels for things like BioWare games tend to get packed.

So if you have the time; the disposable income; and live with in the right continent, then you might get lucky and pop off a question that takes more than 140 characters for an answer. Alrighty then.

 

 

Besides, I feel like you're gonna get a much better answer here where someone can type out as much as they need to as opposed to an event where they have to give a short concise answer to get the line moving along.

[AtalaSirion]

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[Alan Rickman]

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I have been a good boy now, Mr. Moderator sir who is reading this

[Fiery Phoenix]

PAX Prime 2014 was the only convention I've attended because I happened to be attending school in Seattle that year. I spent a lot of time in the BioWare booth and enjoyed chatting with the developers, but still, nothing beats a proper board for detailed discussions.

[ModernAcademic]

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Aw, shy hedgehog is so cute 

[AtalaSirion]

I have been a good boy now, Mr. Moderator sir who is reading this

it is still not enough... they do not like us...

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[Il Divo]

<snicker> No doubt.

Also, conventions aren't cheap. Even if you don't have to travel far, the tickets themselves are expensive. The meet and greet lines can get insanely long and panels for things like BioWare games tend to get packed.

So if you have the time; the disposable income; and live with in the right continent, then you might get lucky and pop off a question that takes more than 140 characters for an answer. Alrighty then.

 

Pretty much this. From the dev posts I've seen since they announced the forums are closing, it does sound like there was a movement away from the BSN in terms of learning about fan feedback. But it would be helpful if someone were to actually explain how these other options (twitter, facebok, etc) have given them a better idea of what the fans are looking for. 

 

The Opening Post as written however reeks of corporate speak. Sure, you can travel around the world and meet people face to face - but that's expensive (for fans) and time-consuming, and limited in terms of how much feedback you can give in an interval. Twitter doesn't really encourage detailed explorations of what went well (and not well) with a game beyond "good" and "bad".

 

Basically, I'm curious what it is that these other options give Bioware that makes the BSN so redundant. The only thing I could honestly think of is if the BSN is completely inconsistent with the feedback they're getting from all their other sources, making it an outlier. 

[Grieving Natashina]

FWIW, in the off chance that they show their faces at NYCC, I'll be bringing it up.
 
To clarify, I won't be a mic jerk about it, but I'll broadcast my disappointment face to face.

I could be mistaken, but don't you also do Livestreams?

[Kaidan Fan]

I find it interesting that folks are focusing on the closing, when the deletion is the problem. For those that are overlooking that little fact, this is the site that helped build the faqs that IGN uses. Those breakdowns about class and rotation? Gone. Many sources from the DA and ME wiki that could only be found on this site? Gone, and it's only due to dedicated posters that posts are being archived. Bug fix conversations? Gone. Confirmations by devs and writers about lore? Gone.

I've read a lot of justifications for closing the forums. As I have mentioned before, I don't like it but I understand it. What I cannot understand, even after a week since I found out, is why they feel the need to delete everything. So much useful information is going to be lost. The stuff that's being to be able to be saved is going to be scattered across multiple sites. When I would google for bug fixes and the like, it would take me right back to this site. Or I'd go to a different site and get linked right back here.

So for those that say, "Good riddance to bad rubbish," you're really missing the big picture. They are trashing everything, and not all of it was really bad. Faqs, walkthroughs, theorycrafting...all going poof. This is going to effect BIoWare badly in the long run. When people are trying to find an easy and safe place for information, they'll get a 404 error. Gods knows how long it's going to take to have new google hits. Sure players can go to various fan sites, but it lacks a certain legimacy that an official forum provides.

If they simply closed the forums, that would be one thing. I knew that this had a chance of happening the second I clicked Accept on the TOS. Posting here wasn't a right after all, so that's part of the deal. However, I cannot understand years of good information, that has nothing much to do with the social aspect, being deleted. I don't understand the point of that at all. While the debate can certainly be made about the harassment some devs/writers have received, the forums simply being closed would help with that. Complete and total erasure is going too far.

I can not like this post enough times and it needs to be quoted on every page.

 

They are deleting all the fantastic information/builds/help that people have helped gather up in one spot for years.  It just seems like overkill.

[BansheeOwnage]

But you're one of the nicest people out there. 

Thank you, I appreciate that!

 

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If they simply closed the forums, that would be one thing. I knew that this had a chance of happening the second I clicked Accept on the TOS. Posting here wasn't a right after all, so that's part of the deal. However, I cannot understand years of good information, that has nothing much to do with the social aspect, being deleted. I don't understand the point of that at all. While the debate can certainly be made about the harassment some devs/writers have received, the forums simply being closed would help with that. Complete and total erasure is going too far.

Oh, what you said about deletion is certainly true, and we should rail against it. That said, I think the closure is equally important and we should continue to rail against that, too.

[Kantr]

<snicker> No doubt.

Also, conventions aren't cheap. Even if you don't have to travel far, the tickets themselves are expensive. The meet and greet lines can get insanely long and panels for things like BioWare games tend to get packed.

So if you have the time; the disposable income; and live with in the right continent, then you might get lucky and pop off a question that takes more than 140 characters for an answer. Alrighty then.

That's if you manage to work up the courage to speak in front of all those other people (which I couldn't do). Even then the answer could be "ask the writers" or "ask the cinematic team"

[mrs_anomaly]

When so many posts get erased: 

 

 

Also that's what hurts the worst about all of this - the DELETION- of everything. I used this site very often in the past couple of years due to DAI, DA2 , DAO and ME3 and ME2. 

 

I do feel like Bioware will regret this move. The people on this forum are some of Bioware's biggest fans and supporters. 

 

Turn your back on your best fans and you will regret it. Of course-now Bioware wants fair weather fans that only have smiles for them.