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[CrazyRah]

Say something about the moderators. Pretty much anything will do.

 

Don't even need to do that at times. Got one for a post well over a year ago about something utterly unrelated

 

Wish it was mod 8, we got something. I know it

[Liamv2]

EA is a restaurant desperately needing Gordon Ramsey.

 

**** **** **** ************ ***** ******* ********* ****** does that work?

[bEVEsthda]

 

See, this is why Twitter is such a failure. Clever one-liners can sometimes mean anything.

 

Did I mean to say that EA needs a stressful boot camp with dismissals and lots of verbal abuse?  - No.

 

I was thinking about a different TV-series, Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares, where he helps failing restaurants get their act together. You know, the kind of restaurant where the manager and chef vehemently maintain that their food is the best in town and that the service is excellent. ...at least at the start.

[Biotic Apostate]

See, this is why Twitter is such a failure. Clever one-liners can sometimes mean anything.

RT @bEVEsthda: that was deep, man #bioware #ea #eagames #videogamecompany #oneliners #gordonramsayshellskitchen #closure #mistakes #realtalk

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

Can we do a experiment and limit our posts to 140 characters? You know, just to show how awesome the whole twitter idea is. 

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

I also hope you can edit your tweets because I had to edit the one above twice to get rid of spelling mistakes. 

[Biotic Apostitute]

Can we do a experiment and limit our posts to 140 characters? You know, just to show how awesome the whole twitter idea is. 

 

I'm not sure that's a good idea. What if we have something important to say, such as a bug report covering something specific or a descriptio

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

I'm not sure that's a good idea. What if we have something important to say, such as a bug report covering something specific or a descriptio

 

Then I guess we would have send to multiple tweets/posts? Since there is only two options to contact them directly and all. And they did say th

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

at our feedback was still important to them. 

[Tonymac]

You know, I haven't got a single warning post since they announced the forum being killed off. Is this a slight? Am I not good enough? Not plucky enough? The only warning post I have is one I got like 3 years ago and never went away.

 

I've gotten two points that way - apparently voicing my opinion about a certain "He who shall not be named" got me into some hot water.  All I can say is ."Good!"  I hope "He who shall not be named" read it and understands that not everyone is a fanboy and loves their work without question.

[Biotic Apostitute]

  I hope "He who shall not be named" read it and understands that not everyone is a fanboy and loves their work without question.

 

Oh, I dunno. There are a lot of failed Galadriel wannabes out there.

 

Spoiler

[ygrek30]

Just skimming the first page, they've already brought up basically all of the salient points against closure and deletion that we have here. Maybe that should tell Bioware something. It also makes me realize how much it sucks for the non-english sections    Not only will they have a hard time finding a replacement site with a good number of users, but it truly brings up something pathetically-funny, that took me too long to realize:

 

The devs probably never talked to them there at all! They're basically being told they're being shut down for a reason that doesn't even come close to sounding legitimate. I mean, it's not legitimate here, either, but just laughable there

You're right, nobody ever came to see us
BUT we still have a off-topic section

[Han Shot First]

EA is a restaurant desperately needing Gordon Ramsay.

If only to hear him call the Bioware PR suit that made this call a donkey...

[voteDC]

Of course, this depends on what you consider those "types of games" to be. I thought DAI was pretty much standard issue Bio right down the line, myself.

I'm not really surprised to be honest. You and I always seem to have the exact opposite stance on things.

I have the feeling that if I said water was wet, you would say that you can dive in the ocean fully clothed and come out dry.

[SofaJockey]

For some reason I always thought tweets had 144 characters not 140. Which might go some way to explain why my tweets always end up running s

[crimzontearz]

So leeeet me get this one straight.

Bioware creates the forums, a place for fans to come and discuss the games, communicate with the fanbase and whatnot. OK, makes sense. Bioware, then, decides to shut them down citing there are better places to do this because "more and more frequently the staff resorted to those places to communicate directly with the fans".

I am sorry but sounds to me like a conscious decision on the staff's part rather than something that happened naturally or "the staff is making other places better for the discussion by moving there" rather than "the staff is moving to other places to communicate with the fans because said places are better" since by admission of Bioware the developers' involvement is exactly what makes one place better than the other....especially since any technical superiority of other platforms can be coded into these forums AND/OR the forums can be over hauled as they were in the past.

So why exactly would the developers NOT want to use this platform?

Is it ease of use or presence/lack of features? Unlikely, it has been proven by so many already the the other cited platforms are far less suitable choices.

Is it because of the presence people the devs know/friends? Unlikely as after all the purpose of this forum is NOT the same as Facebook or Twitter, this forum exists to provide a place to talk about Bioware games and communicate with the staff the presence whom on this site is actually their own choice as I pointed out above.

Is it perhaps because other platforms are not as involved and more casual? Mmmmm might be onto something here. On Facebook and twitter because of the very nature of those platforms involved discussions cannot be made. The presence of the dedicated, core fanbase is overwhelmed by people who are only tangentially or marginally part of the fanbase, developers are NOT challenged directly, organized protest or rebellion toward questionable or downright horrible choices by the devs is not possible. Remember the days of ME3? How would that have panned out without the forums? I mean out of sight out of mind right? Bioware could have likely just ignored it all...I doubt that a statement as powerful could have been made on twitter/Facebook. The devs got the message because their only venue of communication was proof of how wrong it all had gone. Or remember when NG+ was removed from ME2? It was re added after a LOT of threads, petitions and arguing directly with the devs happened, pointing out how idiotic the statement "oh worry not....there will be features that will feel like NG+ even tho we are gonna make you start from scratch every time" was.

But that makes the platform toxic. Being called on poor choices or downright nonsensical directions taken is apparently exhausting. So the choice is made to move to other platforms in order not to have to deal with defending company choices/direction/whatever. But we should never switch cause and effect. The developers made this place (according to their own definition) less suitable to communica tr with with fans by choosing different platforms. Other platforms were not better before, they were made so by the developers choosing not to use the forums in the first place.

[AbsintheDragonfly]

The big points for FB/twitter is if you dont' like something you can just hide/delete/block.  Most very casual users of their products are probably using those two places to get news or whatever.

[DarthLaxian]

Yeah...so important that you decide to close down the forums, makes one really feel valued by Bioware with all the warm and fuzzy feelings *sarcasm*

 

I mean how many fans do you really meet at PAX, SDCC etc.? (especially fans from Europe, like myself! I mean sure there's gamescom, but how many fans actually go there?)

 

How many fans don't like Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Tumblr etc. etc.? You can't assume everybody uses those (I don't and I've been on the forums for ages - call me old fashioned but most of those modern social media don't impress me, I frankly see them as dangerous instead of cool and useful!)!

 

Yeah, with a heavy heart - I'd really like to know how the individual devs think about this (let them speak without a muzzle and without threatening to dismiss them should they not tote the company line and actually think that this is a bad and frankly stupid decision!)

 

Yeah, you listening...that would be a new one! You didn't listen after the ME3 ending debacle (in fact you more or less said (implied!) that the fans are too stupid to grasp your artistic vision!) or after people didn't think Dragon Age: Inquisition was all that great (don't get me wrong: It's not a bad game - but compared to older Bioware titles such as KOTOR, Dragon Age: Origins, Mass Effect 1 and 2 etc. it's not really all that great...it's got too many flaws - from removing the healing mechanic to feeling like someone's playing a single-player MMO when playing the game and many many more!)...

 

I am probably wasting my time here, you won't reconsider - but I still wanted to have commented on this bad decision!

 

greetings LAX

ps: Maybe you shouldn't pre-emptively hide from the ME:A ****-storm - maybe you should try making a really good game again for a change? - But maybe that's not envogue and I am just an ancient relic from times past when companies couldn't easily get away with screwing over their customers and when honesty was a valued trait - unlike today!

pps: If it's because the forums are supposedly toxic: Grow up, sorry but you hear much worse on the street and if you can't take a little criticism and heat if you make bad decisions then you have no business being part of the gaming industry - look for some cushy job that keeps you away from customers and their sometimes passionate opinions (I mean it's not like people just insult you without reason! Those guys have very very very good reasons and they are so passionate that your bad decisions feel like a slap in the face (especially if you include something like that fucked up "Refuse!"-Ending in Mass Effect 3!)...but I guess passionate fans aren't wanted anymore either - you'd prefer the COD-Crowd (note: I like call of duty, but I am not a fanboy and I've not purchased a COD-Game for full-price in years) that gobbles everything up and doesn't care if it's the same every year? )

[N7M]

Sorry, but this is overwrought backpedaling to avoid commitment to your own text. If you EC your post, at least keep the narrative intact and own it.

 

What I wrote was synonymous with what I said before and not what you're characterizing. There's not a narrative going on to suit your small mindedness. The point was and is that the generic scrawling on these boards are all disposable. If there is any value in these, it is in the moment and what a person takes away.

[N7M]

Theme?

Well, Anderson was British...

 

[Draining Dragon]

I've gotten two points that way - apparently voicing my opinion about a certain "He who shall not be named" got me into some hot water.  All I can say is ."Good!"  I hope "He who shall not be named" read it and understands that not everyone is a fanboy and loves their work without question.

Suddenly I feel the urge to change my forum name to "he who shall not be banned."

[Iakus]

The big points for FB/twitter is if you dont' like something you can just hide/delete/block.  Most very casual users of their products are probably using those two places to get news or whatever.

I suspect this is the true reason behind shutting the boards down.  They don't want feedback, they want an echo chamber.

[capn233]

Did you think I was being serious?

 

Mass Effect is serious business.

[N7M]

There was mention of an Astronomy thread.

 

There was an article, possibly from that thread, which talked about cosmography which was inspirational for the imagination in relation to Mass Effect and also helps with perspective.

 

[spirosz]

So leeeet me get this one straight.

Bioware creates the forums, a place for fans to come and discuss the games, communicate with the fanbase and whatnot. OK, makes sense. Bioware, then, decides to shut them down citing there are better places to do this because "more and more frequently the staff resorted to those places to communicate directly with the fans".

I am sorry but sounds to me like a conscious decision on the staff's part rather than something that happened naturally or "the staff is making other places better for the discussion by moving there" rather than "the staff is moving to other places to communicate with the fans because said places are better" since by admission of Bioware the developers' involvement is exactly what makes one place better than the other....especially since any technical superiority of other platforms can be coded into these forums AND/OR the forums can be over hauled as they were in the past.

So why exactly would the developers NOT want to use this platform?

Is it ease of use or presence/lack of features? Unlikely, it has been proven by so many already the the other cited platforms are far less suitable choices.

Is it because of the presence people the devs know/friends? Unlikely as after all the purpose of this forum is NOT the same as Facebook or Twitter, this forum exists to provide a place to talk about Bioware games and communicate with the staff the presence whom on this site is actually their own choice as I pointed out above.

Is it perhaps because other platforms are not as involved and more casual? Mmmmm might be onto something here. On Facebook and twitter because of the very nature of those platforms involved discussions cannot be made. The presence of the dedicated, core fanbase is overwhelmed by people who are only tangentially or marginally part of the fanbase, developers are NOT challenged directly, organized protest or rebellion toward questionable or downright horrible choices by the devs is not possible. Remember the days of ME3? How would that have panned out without the forums? I mean out of sight out of mind right? Bioware could have likely just ignored it all...I doubt that a statement as powerful could have been made on twitter/Facebook. The devs got the message because their only venue of communication was proof of how wrong it all had gone. Or remember when NG+ was removed from ME2? It was re added after a LOT of threads, petitions and arguing directly with the devs happened, pointing out how idiotic the statement "oh worry not....there will be features that will feel like NG+ even tho we are gonna make you start from scratch every time" was.

But that makes the platform toxic. Being called on poor choices or downright nonsensical directions taken is apparently exhausting. So the choice is made to move to other platforms in order not to have to deal with defending company choices/direction/whatever. But we should never switch cause and effect. The developers made this place (according to their own definition) less suitable to communica tr with with fans by choosing different platforms. Other platforms were not better before, they were made so by the developers choosing not to use the forums in the first place.

 

Easy, they hate honesty.