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#6176
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Wait...it's confirmed that DA4's protag isn't the Inquisitor? Cause if so there were all my interest. What was the damn point of trespasser then other than to screw my PC's happy ending up again?

 

Well, there is the whole "missing an arm" thing that would need to be taken care of first.


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Well, there is the whole "missing an arm" thing that would need to be taken care of first.

 

Dagna can fix it.  :)


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And this is why I will shed no tears for the loss of the forum. The community can't discuss the rules it's under, or the enforcement of those rules? And just deleting things without saying anything? It's disgusting, and it's never what I stood for. 

I have to say, it's pretty upsetting to see your avatar without the "English Community Moderators" underneath it.


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Wait...it's confirmed that DA4's protag isn't the Inquisitor? Cause if so there were all my interest. What was the damn point of trespasser then other than to screw my PC's happy ending up again?

Mine too. Apparently the point of Trespasser was to sequel bait to the max for a sequel that doesn't exist. BioWare clearly doesn't understand the difference between "conclusion" (aka tying off, wrapping up, whatever other terms they used to describe their intentions with Trespasser) and "call to action." They actually think Trespasser neatly tied off the inquisitor's story.

 

Well, there is the whole "missing an arm" thing that would need to be taken care of first.

If by "taken care of" you mean "have a game with a protagonist who has to cope with the physical and emotional effects of losing a limb" then I agree.


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#6180
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Mine too. Apparently the point of Trespasser was to sequel bait to the max for a sequel that doesn't exist. BioWare clearly doesn't understand the difference between "conclusion" (aka tying off, wrapping up, whatever other terms they used to describe their intentions with Trespasser) and "call to action." They actually think Trespasser neatly tied off the inquisitor's story.

 

If by "taken care of" you mean "have a game with a protagonist who has to cope with the physical and emotional effects of losing a limb" then I agree.

 

So how do you expect the Inquisitor to wield a sword & shield with only 1 arm? Or dual wield 2 weapons? Or fire a bow? Or cast spells?


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So how do you expect the Inquisitor to wield a sword & shield with only 1 arm? Or dual wield 2 weapons? Or fire a bow? Or cast spells?

 

Badass prosthetics.

 

Get some automail, or maybe the arm Furiosa had.


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I have to say, it's pretty upsetting to see your avatar without the "English Community Moderators" underneath it.

 

Yeah, they cut us all without warning. After the same thing happened when the Warhammer Online section of the BSN was being closed down, and they apologized to me for it, they did it again. It just shows a lack of appreciation and respect, especially considering that was 6 years of saving them likely hundreds of thousands and never asking for anything in return. Yeah, I am sadly as done as someone can get. 


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Badass prosthetics.

 

Get some automail, or maybe the arm Furiosa had.

 

Okay, I guess the Inquisitor should see if any of those Eluvians lead to Amestris.


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Okay, I guess the Inquisitor should see if any of those Eluvians lead to Amestris.

 

In the Sera friendship ending Dagna makes a crossbow arm for the former Inquisitor.  She'd probably be able to make other replacements too.  Plus, a mage Inquisitor could make a spirit arm (a Knight Enchanter is already summoning a blade made out of spirit, after all).


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Badass prosthetics.
 
Get some automail, or maybe the arm Furiosa had.


Alternatively, omnigel. Or maybe a golem arm?
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Alternatively, omnigel. Or maybe a golem arm?

 

Omnigel fixes everything.  The arm just grows back.


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Yeah, they cut us all without warning. After the same thing happened when the Warhammer Online section of the BSN was being closed down, and they apologized to me for it, they did it again. It just shows a lack of appreciation and respect, especially considering that was 6 years of saving them likely hundreds of thousands and never asking for anything in return. Yeah, I am sadly as done as someone can get. 

That's really terrible behaviour. The way this closure is handled drove me from sadness to apathy really fast.

 

Either way, thank you for all you've done for us. I came here at a time you were a little less active, but it was always nice to see you post (and close a thread with an explanation that showed that you took the time to read through it).


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Wait...it's confirmed that DA4's protag isn't the Inquisitor? Cause if so there were all my interest. What was the damn point of trespasser then other than to screw my PC's happy ending up again?

 

 

Where was this confirmed? Because if some random new schlub has to resolve whatever is going on or happens with Solas, I will be so mad. It doesn't even matter if the Inquisitor hated him or was friends with him, it's that character that has some personal/emotional investment in the outcome, not New Hero Character 003.

 

I was holding out for the idea of playing a badarse Inquisitor character with an enchanted prosthetic, or barring that, having a dual-protagonist thing going on. What a waste of a setup that will be.

 

Ah, but leaving feedback like this on the official forum is terrible, yes? I can maybe get the gist of all that to fit in a tweet... <_< 


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That's really terrible behaviour. The way this closure is handled drove me from sadness to apathy really fast.

 

Either way, thank you for all you've done for us. I came here at a time you were a little less active, but it was always nice to see you post (and close a thread with an explanation that showed that you took the time to read through it).

It was a good time the whole way through and I'll always be happy to have been a part of such a great community. Everything's gotta end. 


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So how do you expect the Inquisitor to wield a sword & shield with only 1 arm? Or dual wield 2 weapons? Or fire a bow? Or cast spells?

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Like this. A mage doesn't actually need that hand to use magic but you could add enchantments/crystals/whatever on an attachment to boost power. What I would hate is 1) The arm is magically regrown or replaced with a "golem" arm or spirit arm or something else that was the same as a real arm but better or 2) The inquisitor being sidelined as a poor defenseless cripple that must be an advisor relegated to a desk (I know this is what they'll do though).


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Like this. A mage doesn't actually need that hand to use magic but you could add enchantments/crystals/whatever on an attachment to boost power. What I would hate is 1) The arm is magically regrown or replaced with a "golem" arm or something else that was the same as a real arm but better or 2) The inquisitor being sidelined as a poor defenseless cripple that must be an advisor relegated to a desk (I know this is what they'll do though).

 

I always thought losing the arm was a great way to reduce the power of an endgame Inquisitor. You have to re-learn how to fight and add runes or level up your new arm and so on. It made so much sense, since you could start the character over at a low level in a sequel. But... apparently not? Annoying. Maybe some people didn't like the Inquisitor as a character, but it's just hard to imagine how the heck you're to resolve the current story. What was the point of setting up the next game's antagonist as a sympathetic character when no one that knew him would be around to engage with him in any fashion? Pfft.

 

And just because we will no longer be able to discuss and debate the finer points of that, I maintain that closing the forums is ridiculous.


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It was a good time the whole way through and I'll always be happy to have been a part of such a great community. Everything's gotta end. 

The community's not dead! We've moved to the new BSN a http://bsn.boards.net/. Many of the community leadership are there, like Cyonan, DragonRacer, BioFan and Hrungr. We have 900 members and are growing! You may see a lot of familiar faces. 


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The community's not dead! We've moved to the new BSN a http://bsn.boards.net/. Many of the community leadership are there, like DragonRacer, BioFan and Hrungr. We have 900 members and are growing! You may see a lot of familiar faces. 

I'm a thing. :o 
http://bsn.boards.net/user/916


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I always thought losing the arm was a great way to reduce the power of an endgame Inquisitor. You have to re-learn how to fight and add runes or level up your new arm and so on. It made so much sense, since you could start the character over at a low level in a sequel. But... apparently not? Annoying. Maybe some people didn't like the Inquisitor as a character, but it's just hard to imagine how the heck you're to resolve the current story. What was the point of setting up the next game's antagonist as a sympathetic character when no one that knew him would be around to engage with him in any fashion? Pfft.

 

And just because we will no longer be able to discuss and debate the finer points of that, I maintain that closing the forums is ridiculous.

I agree. I'm one of those who didn't like the inquisitor as a character in the base game. He was too neutral in personality and way too strong, steamrolling everything and everyone including 10 dragons and the last boss with ease. I felt like a bully and Corypheus was the weak one getting picked on. Trespasser lit a fire under me because of the extremely strong potential it opened up. The god-like character fallen from power both politically with the inquisition being reduced or disbanded and physically with the loss of a limb. The betrayal of a companion that could have been a friend, rival, lover, or mentor and the vow every inquisitor made to stop him while secretly plotting against him in the basement was so interesting. The thought of playing a character who wasn't perfect and had to deal with the physical and emotional loss caused by the fall from grace and the loss of the arm was so compelling to me. I was ready to be done with DA before that but after Trespasser I wanted to play the game it set up really bad, a game that will never exist.

 

But yeah, discussing anything about it will have to be "you suck and your DLC sucks" level of discussion from now on due to the awesomness that is twitter.


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Yay! Happy to have you. 


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We are a much smaller segment of the overall customer base than people realize. most businesses are concerned with new customers, not existing ones.

 

Businesses want to retain their current customers and acquire new ones. Why would they willingly drop paying customers to seek out potential new ones?

 

I always preferred legendary items to those I crafted myself. Great that DAI has such a system implemented, but the weapons I find, after combing the entire map, should be worth the time I invested into it. Finding a hidden chest should be exciting, not followed by 'ugh another sword of destruction that doesn't even do half the damage of the one I made earlier.' I hope MEA fixes that.

 

Yeah I'm not huge on builds or combat strategy but I enjoyed all of the details to unique items in DAO and DA2. The fact that all of the unique items in DAI didn't have much flavor to them and were rarely as good or better than crafted gear took all of that away. It's a feeling of accomplishment to beat an enemy and get some great loot as a result. We had to work to get this great gear. Or save up enough money to buy the gear. With crafting, all investment in gear is gone, because when we beat the enemy we're looting materials from their corpse to craft something or looting a blue item which is essentially junk to sell. There's no effort required to attain great gear, there's only patience in farming materials.

 

Something I learned a long time ago is that for every customer who complains, there are 10 who just silently leave unsatisfied and never come back. This may or may not hold true for video games but it's something to consider. The loyal customer WANTS to love your products even if the products keep declining in quality. The loyal fan will give tips on how to improve because they want to love your product again. The casual customer will see the lower quality and just go "meh" and leave your company behind without a thought. You can also only trick new people into buying your products with pizazz and flashy marketing for so long. Eventually you will run out of saps and you need something quality to stand behind. Something like TW3 didn't sell so well because of trickery or official marketing,  it sold well because it was an amazing product and hardcore fans sang its praises to every corner of the interwebs, other customers in line at game stores, coworkers and friends, etc...I think generating and cultivating a hardcore and passionate fanbase would be a huge plus for any company with quality products.

 

Without the BSN I would have assumed there was almost no banter in DA:I and that certain companions had zero things to say to each other.

 

Right, it's the loyal and happy customers who leave constructive feedback. Casual players are going to play and walk away, they won't have interest in providing feedback. The trick is sorting through the crappy feedback from angry customers from the useful feedback from constructive criticism. And that's the entire point of customer service analytics.


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So how do you expect the Inquisitor to wield a sword & shield with only 1 arm? Or dual wield 2 weapons? Or fire a bow? Or cast spells?

The mage IQ has no handicap from losing a limb.  They don't even need a staff to cast spells.

 

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they got a new PC for DA4 so EAware can regurgitate past events and character bios to the player again and again, and give us popular past companion cameos and LI's that mean nothing because we're playing another clean slate PC with no connections with anyone.

 

 

Maybe some people didn't like the Inquisitor as a character, but it's just hard to imagine how the heck you're to resolve the current story. What was the point of setting up the next game's antagonist as a sympathetic character when no one that knew him would be around to engage with him in any fashion? Pfft.

 

I agree, I didn't like my IQ at all until Trespasser and I think the possible dynamic between he and Solas could be very interesting. My IQ started out hating Solas, then became his friend, and at the end he wanted to save him from himself. Why play some random nobody who doesn't have that same drive to stop/save  Solas? My IQ also romanced Dorian and have more of a reason to want to go to Tevinter than anyone. I see no reason why Dorian would just randomly work with some new guy when he has the IQ.  It would have been interesting to see how these continued relationships pan out, but that would actually require EAware to try to write a decent story. 


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With a signature and everything. A correct one, even. 


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Wait...it's confirmed that DA4's protag isn't the Inquisitor? Cause if so there were all my interest. What was the damn point of trespasser then other than to screw my PC's happy ending up again?


I didn't even know that the existence of DA4 was confirmed.
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What I wrote was synonymous with what I said before and not what you're characterizing. There's not a narrative going on to suit your small mindedness. The point was and is that the generic scrawling on these boards are all disposable. If there is any value in these, it is in the moment and what a person takes away.

 

I'm flattered and all, but if you still can't perceive that using a synonym for fart doesn't get rid of the smell it might best that you refrain from inhaling your own to get estranged from the flavor and resharpen your senses.


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