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#6201
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Aww man...I stop lurking for a month, and I come back to find that the forums are gonna be killed :'(

 

I like this place. 

 

A few years ago, I found the forum whilst searching for news on Inquisition. I like having all the news in one place, as opposed to having to scour various social media sites. I wish I had posted a bit more often. I didn't expect that they would decide to end a forum this sudden. I feel worse for the long time members, though. I know a lot of people have good memories here, and I think it's kind of mean that Bioware's is going to go ahead and erase that history from the internet. 


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Wait...it's confirmed that DA4's protag isn't the Inquisitor? Cause if so there were all my interest. What was the damn point of trespasser then other than to screw my PC's happy ending up again?

 

There are always new conflicts in Thedas.



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Hmm, actually I got a helpful answer in the HQ. One in a million. Whatever, the fact that Conal tweeted me back and directed me to the HQ is still funny and I don't care what you think!

 

Closing the forums is dumb. #BioVerpls


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I'm flattered an all, but if you still can't perceive that using a synonym for fart doesn't get rid of the smell it might best that you refrain from inhaling your own to get estranged from the flavor and resharpen your senses.

 

Since your straining metaphor is showing where your head is at:

The one who speaks of it is the one who reeks of it.

 

Spoiler


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#6205
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The mage IQ has no handicap from losing a limb.  They don't even need a staff to cast spells.

 

 

Right, but you do need limbs to cast spells.



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You know. I pretty much lost all respect for BW after they shut down OT. At least, more specifically for the community team at BW (although after DA:I I stopped caring about BW as a whole), and I didn't ever care about the BSN except to **** post after it. But now since they're shutting it down completely I feel just a little bit sad. I joined BSN a few months after the big switch in July of 2014. I was going through some weird life stuff at the time and as a side effect I had serious bout of insomnia during that summer. Against my better judgment I was pretty stoked about DA:I and since I was up all the time with nothing better to do I spent my evenings trolling through the internet waters looking for DA:I news and discussion. That's when I stumbled across the Bioware Forums! Originally I stuck to the pre-release DA:I forums to theory-craft about classes and speculate with like minded folk. It was fun. I enjoyed talking with people who had the same interest and passion (at the time mind you) about the prospects of a new DA as me!

 

But then I took a stroll down to The Lobby just to see what it was all about. I was home. I liked BW games, but I like good people more. OT provided a space to talk shop with cool people about other cool **** when I didn't want to talk about DA. And yet the DA forums were just a few clicks away too! It was heaven. And BSN became a sort of companion that was up and awake when I was. Post DA:I release I stuck almost exclusively to OT. And even though I was on BSN for about a year before it shut down, I met some really cool people. Some of them I'd consider friends. Thankfully places like TSG and cBSN are around for so I continue to interact with all the great people of this community. And even though my time with BSN was short and ended on bad terms*. I still remember the good times. And for that I'm a little sad.

 

 

 

 

*Talking about that handful of hours notice before axing OT. You dropped the ball hard with that BW.


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Right, but you do need limbs to cast spells.

Do you? He has one arm still and I also doubt having your hand cut off would prevent magic from coming out of the "stump" where the hand was as weird as that might look.


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Hmm, actually I got a helpful answer in the HQ. One in a million. Whatever, the fact that Conal tweeted me back and directed me to the HQ is still funny and I don't care what you think!
 
Closing the forums is dumb. #BioVerpls


The HQ is just some guy in Bangladesh shaking a magic eight ball.
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Back when David Gaider was posting he sometimes gave insights into Dragon Age lore. Like this post regarding Tevinter and the Old Gods: https://forum.biowar...-3#entry508158 

 

It would be a shame to lose information like this. Does anyone know of any efforts to back up developer posts?


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The job opening is not viewable anymore, but it's not that significant. And it was posted for Austin, the SWTOR studio, so an analyst would have plenty of data available from the game itself to do their job. If they don't, their forums are not going anywhere.


My apologizes then. I really stepped in it there. :blush: The job opening is still visible though: http://www.bioware.c...urrent-openings

Thanks for the correction my friend. :)

Now back to the main topic. Just when I think the absurdity of this situation couldn't get any worse, I see Fooze's anger. I also know that the named community moderators found out the same day we did. This is how I feel the whole thing has escalated:

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I noticed more lurkers coming out the woodwork. This whole thing is ridiculous. Community mods were tossed away without a backward glance. People are (ironically) finding out on Tumblr and coming here to voice their unhappiness with the whole thing. I've seen several people with a small post count come on here and to ask what's going on. I even watched a few people that made accounts for the forums for the specific purpose of expressing their opinions on the matter. Next thing I know is that I'll find out that EA hired a restructuring manager for BioWare. That's not a good thing by the way.

For the lurkers though, there is some hope. We have lifeboats, and enough room for everyone. :D

The Fextralife forums, the new BSN (in my signature) and vroomvroom's forums are all working at break neck speed. Fextralife is backing up user post history. The more people that sign up, the less information that's going to be lost. The privacy policy does check out, so it's a safe place to get post history back. These amazing people are also trying to get everything organized as well as dealng with the influx of people on the new forums.

If you see a BioWare fan, give them a hug today. The love for BioWare games from those incredible fans is heartwarming to watch. It's a painful constrast to the dismissal that has been shown here. Some of the devs (not all of them) at BioWare only seem to show that passion when it's time to start hyping up the game. This isn't something I could have seen happening during DA:I's pre-launch.

My posts are being archieved, so thankfully my words won't go flying into the nether. I've never been mad at a video game, and no matter how ME:A turns out, I will never be. Up until August 1st, when I found out about this little move, I had never been so angry at a game company. I wish that was still true.
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#6211
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Just so everyone knows, I don't think it was confirmed that the Inquisitor wouldn't return as a protagonist in the sense that Bioware directly stated those words. It was confirmed by their stated Trespasser goals including "concluding their story" and "tying them off". Which as Nefla said, they need to brush up on their definitions for. And here we go again! Yay?

 

So how do you expect the Inquisitor to wield a sword & shield with only 1 arm? Or dual wield 2 weapons? Or fire a bow? Or cast spells?

Fairly easily, all things considered. First, there have been people who continued to battle in our world with prosthetics. Hundreds of years ago. Any prosthetic in Thedas can be much better. Second, you don't even need a prosthetic, as Nefla's cute drawings show. Here's one to finish the set:

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It would be just as easy for a shield or dagger. Remember the Red Templars? Their Shadows have literal arm-blades. A 2-hander would be a bit more difficult, but workable. And as Hazegurl said, it wouldn't affect a mage in the slightest, combat-wise. Mages don't actually need staves, and they don't even need to use hand motions to cast spells. They're like training wheels, which is why the most powerful mages we've seen don't use them (Flemeth, Solas, The Architect, and Corypheus don't use staves, Solas doesn't even use hand motions). Alternative options like spirit arms are also feasible for a mage, as Illyria mentioned.

 

A staff is like an enchanted sword. In fact, an enchanted sword can serve the same purpose as a staff (Arcane Warrior sword in DA:O). So the Inquisitor's prosthetic could even serve that purpose; put a charged crystal on it. But they don't actually need one. And think of hand movements as a semi-conscious action, like body language. It helps the mage convey their thoughts, but their thought is what matters. Like the Force, not like muttering an incantation in Harry Potter.

 

The lack of forearm really isn't a reason not to have them return at all. As Nefla said, I think it would be a great and unique opportunity to experience that sort of trauma as a protagonist and react to it according to our RP. And it definitely doesn't mean they can't do a dual-protagonist story.

 

Another thing to remember is liking the Inquisitor is completely irrelevant to wanting them to come back, contrary to what many people think. I found them fairly bland until Trespasser. I want them back to finish the story they started in Trespasser. Their story was finished in the base game, but apparently Bioware's definition of "tying off a character" is to have them go from staring at the sunrise to vowing to take further action against someone they're personally invested in, and actively plotting against them.

 

I've written loads more, and better, but it's hard to find a post from months ago.

 

Businesses want to retain their current customers and acquire new ones. Why would they willingly drop paying customers to seek out potential new ones?

You sure about that? :P

 

That reminds me of Velanna, whose quest I could never get to trigger. There's still no real consensus on what causes the problem and looking for answers is a nightmare -- until I found yet another helpful thread here. I found a solution that is incredibly wonky and ruins the narrative, but it works. It's in no way an "official" fix and can't be found on wiki.

BioWare, don't be prideful. Just reverse this closing.

 

Edit: my typos were atrocious. DX

They have a huge problem with that. Massive. *sigh* :mellow:

 

 

On the whole closing issue, it really feels like we're an "inconvenient part" of their audience. And even if we're a small part, the whole thing seems really extreme. Not gonna repeat what tons of people said about how forums allow discussions that SM can't really replicate.

That may be the saddest part of this situation. That the most passionate, invested fans are the most inconvenient to them. I don't even.

 

I didn't even know who he was until the closure of the forums was announced.

I didn't know until they closed off-topic. So your point still stands.

 

 

You know, to make sure BioWare games are playable for everyone. Not just the relative minority of posters here. I love encouraging people to try to play games I think are good. It's a lot easier with one focused site. Am I yelling into the wind? Probably. Is that going to stop me from trying? Heck no.

That's the spirit! Push on to the inevitable. For our principles, if not for victory.

OGd0g3S.gif Keep up the great work, people.

And if we get deleted, we'll get deleted knowing that we did everything we could to stop this. That'll have to be enough.

 

*snip*

I don't think those new players will buy merchandising or dlcs. At least that is what I think, maybe the mouth to mouth was good for the old Bioware but not for EA.

 

Anyway, I think I'm done with Bioware and EA, I'll still play their games but I'll wait for a good discount. 20-30€ for a relatively bug free game seems like a nice price.

This forum will need some mouth-to-mouth in 2 weeks.

 

 

 

*shows herself out*


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#6212
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Back when David Gaider was posting he sometimes gave insights into Dragon Age lore. Like this post regarding Tevinter and the Old Gods: https://forum.biowar...-3#entry508158 

 

It would be a shame to lose information like this. Does anyone know of any efforts to back up developer posts?

Take a look at the link in my signature. The forums will be preserved there.


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Since your straining metaphor is showing where your head is at:

The one who speaks of it is the one who reeks of it.

 

Spoiler

 

Spoiler

 

I'll get us a room.


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Do you? He has one arm still and I also doubt having your hand cut off would prevent magic from coming out of the "stump" where the hand was as weird as that might look.

 

Yeah, anyone who has watched Hunter x Hunter knows how that works.


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The funny thing is that there is still people joining the forums. If you click on the option to show new users, about a dozen people show up. They're in for a surprise.
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Take a look at the link in my signature. The forums will be preserved there.

Thank you!


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#6217
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Got my post regarding the data analyst position edited.
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The funny thing is that there is still people joining the forums. If you click on the option to show new users, about a dozen people show up. They're in for a surprise.

 

Teenage Mutant Ninja Lurkers: Out of the Shadows


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Mike Laidlaw responded to a tweet I made tagging him so I've got that going for me

 

Though I miss when he was here.


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Yeah, anyone who has watched Hunter x Hunter knows how that works.

I don't know what that is so I don't know how that works! :o


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#6221
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I don't know what that is so I don't know how that works! :o

 

It involves rock-paper-scissors and cat-ant-girls.

 

Everyone here should watch it.


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I started a thread requesting Off Topic be brought back in May or June, and it was shortly after locked without explanation. In retrospect I wonder if the decision to shutter the entire BSN was already made, despite fans only being told now.
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Wait...it's confirmed that DA4's protag isn't the Inquisitor? Cause if so there were all my interest. What was the damn point of trespasser then other than to screw my PC's happy ending up again?

 

You haven't learnt by now?

 

You are not allowed to have a happy ending!

 

I learnt the hard way... 

1. Side piece for Alistair... Because elf mage! Racism grrrr.

2. Crazy wild ride with Anders one playthrough and THEN the very next playthrough Anders wants me to kill him, I had to let lover-boy Fenris kill him cause I just couldn't... MY HEART, BIOWARE!

3. Elf fangirl for life, so I had to pick Solas on my first playthrough. And we know how that goes... I haven't been able to play DA:I again (DA:O 3-4 games, DA2 like 6+ games, DA:I - ONE!)

 

Bioware cannot stand happy endings. Bioware just loves to crush my heart every time.

 

But none of it is as cruel as closing BSN.  

 

#neverforgivebioware


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My apologizes then. I really stepped in it there. :blush: The job opening is still visible though: http://www.bioware.c...urrent-openings

Thanks for the correction my friend. :)

Ah yes, it's visible, what I meant to say is that the actual description is no longer accessible. Would have helped to determine what Austin actually need an analyst for. Just imagine the irony, if they were hired to mine data from the swtor forums...

 

But anywho, you're welcome :)


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I started a thread requesting Off Topic be brought back in May or June, and it was shortly after locked without explanation. In retrospect I wonder if the decision to shutter the entire BSN was already made, despite fans only being told now.

I think it started back in January myself. That's when I noticed a more reactive method of managing posts on the forums start up. Why bother with cleaning up the forums when you can keep a minimal presence until the "time was right?"

In any case, I agree with you. This has been in the works for quite sometime. Heck, I can't help but wonder if this was brewing back when OT was closed.
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