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[Pasquale1234]

I did a search for mass effect Andromeda. It was on the Chinese version of Google but same ideal. This forum was on the first page. I searched multiple pages and not once did the other sites come up.

This suggests they are counting on new customers not knowing our forums exist. Marketing I mean. I'm sure Bioware devs aren't so petty.

Sure, but that'll change once the crawlers and bots have had time to get through everything. Once the October deletion occurs, the only remnants of this site will be caches, archives, and imports such as fextralife's.

[Jehuty]

So Biowaremod02 you wanna go see a nice movie, maybe go out on a date? I mean yeah the other mods will be jealous but let 'em. They will never crush my love for you, oh who I hold dear onto these forums and crave for. Please make it so only death will do us part. Let us have many children and preserve the nations of the BSN against the overwhelming hordes of EA.

[mrs_anomaly]

Nefla you're a worthy beautiful sacrifice! Make sure to put extra mascara on and duck face a lot to be perfect for the ultimate sacrifice! lol

Bioware a division of EA: you're drunk go home.

[TheRatPack55]

I agree it's not fair to judge a group by a few members. Something people on both sides of the issue need to be reminded of.

 

I think an important thing to consider here is that when you're judging a member of a political party, you're judging them precisely for supporting a specific set of views, since that is what political parties are all about. When you're judging a member of an online community that is unified only through the fact they play a particular video game that's a rather different issue.

 

A gaming community is diverse, and because of that there's always going to be some conflict within it. But saying that trait makes it "toxic" and considering it a reason to shut it down is like saying there should be only one political party because then no "toxic conflict" would happen. Which is an idea most people find rather concerning. 

[SofaJockey]

I did a search for mass effect Andromeda. It was on the Chinese version of Google but same ideal. This forum was on the first page. I searched multiple pages and not once did the other sites come up.

This suggests they are counting on new customers not knowing our forums exist. Marketing I mean. I'm sure Bioware devs aren't so petty.

 

A google ranking doesn't happen overnight.

As it stands, the two 'lifeboat' sites that are doing best with fans have a 'next to zero' ranking for BioWare/Mass Effect keywords.

 

Awareness will have to come via other web sources and fan backlinks.

 

Irrespective of intent, by closing this forum and deleting content before the MEA advertising push, this community now faces a huge uphill struggle to reach any new fans.

[Puddi III]

Since we're doing analogies.

<-- 300 hours remain.

[LPPrince]

Since we're doing analogies.

<-- 300 hours remain.

 

 

Ouch.

[mybudgee]

You press a button, something awesome happens.

 

[Solassan]

Man way to go kick a girl in the lady parts BioWare.

Yeah this has definitely made my excitement level for Andromeda go from waiting to pre order the collectors edition to meh, I have other games to play. Just as I was boarding the hype train for ME:A as well.....

[AlanC9]

Face it, we're not mosquitoes, much as you'd like to dismiss us as bugs. We're customers, with a list of grievances. Kicking us to the curb will only add to that. We will go elsewhere, spreading how ill-treated we were in addition to older issues. This attempt to stifle their bad PR is only going to lead to worse PR

I don't see us spreading much. I think the general reaction is going to be more along the lines of "how on Earth did Bioware put up with those prima donnas for so long? No wonder they shut their boards down." Hell, I'm seeing stuff like that now.

Edit: I'm not sure we're going to ever get an answer on this one. I figure that this board was a minor annoyance to Bio at worst, and it's absence won't be very noticeable to them either, whether that absence is a net positive or a net negative.

[AlanC9]

I did a search for mass effect Andromeda. It was on the Chinese version of Google but same ideal. This forum was on the first page. I searched multiple pages and not once did the other sites come up.

Interesting. On US Google I didn't get this board until page 2. Reddit ranked far higher.

[vbibbi]

http://www.rpgcodex....e.110133/page-7

 

 

Among other things:

 

 

 

The rest of the thread is in the same tone.  Very educational.

 

Looked in briefly before my remaining portion of faith in humanity died. It's hilarious how many of the posters are worried that we're going to flood their forums. They seem to have a very high opinion of themselves and don't realise that most posters here wouldn't touch that forum with a 20 foot pole.

[AlanC9]

I just may have to go back there.

[Nefla]

I already feel like BioWare's bitter and vengeful ex-wife lol

[AtalaSirion]

I already feel like BioWare's bitter and vengeful ex-wife lol

i watched you on dA now

 

and closing forum is a bad decission!

to be on topic.

[mrs_anomaly]

So I did the "google for MEA info" to see where it ranks, this is an important test for some reason?! And this forum wasn't on the first page. What IS on the first page though is Bioware/EA defending No Man's Sky first day patch...

 

 

[BansheeOwnage]

When I logged in today, I saw that I had 7000 likes

 

Which makes me happier than it probably should

Spoiler

Yessss

Thanks people, glad my posts are appreciated    See Bioware? You can't close the forum! I'll lose my silly likes!

 

I'm seriously having trouble figuring out where fans are gonna get the information they need now. The forum was THE source for it. No other place has those answers nor will answers be that easy to find.

So it's been 2 weeks since the announcement, and 434 new users have joined this forum since then. This is basically the lowest point in hype we've been in a long time. I have a feeling most of those posters are here to lurk or find info about the games. Bugfixes, guides, etc. And I have a feeling they'll have a much harder time finding that information soon

 

I just wanted them to pick either one or the other. Either do a Mass Effect style series where the hero, conflict, companions, etc...carry over or have each game completely separate. Don't carry over the villain, conflict, companions, etc...but leave the protagonist behind randomly. If each game had been set in a different country with a set of companions and a protagonist unique to that game only then it would have been much better. Nobody would be asking why the guy who became a pirate king in the first game wasn't the same one fighting against elven oppression in the second one or why the elven freedom fighter from the second game wasn't the same as the secret mage bastard of a royal family in the third game, etc...Either make one multi-game story or make several separate stories that are resolved in one game and then left behind.

 

I don't care anymore though, they can do whatever they want.

I agree, they should pick one or the other. While I actually don't mind cameos inherently, it does get quite annoying to constantly meet my old companions, know them as the player, but have my character forced into not knowing them. The opposite happens sometimes, too. Sometimes your character's writing makes it seem like you're a little too friendly with the old companions considering you don't know them (my impression with Morrigan in DA:I). I can't find my old posts about this, but you've read them. I want to talk to Alistair as the Warden. I want to hang out with Varric as Hawke. I want to resolve The Solas Threat™ as the Inquisitor. Otherwise, so much is lost.

 

While I prefer multi-game stories overall (like ME), I definitely agree that they should pick one and stick to it in Dragon Age, instead of trying to have stand-alone chapters that aren't stand-alone in terms of returning characters and conflicts. Resolve each game within that game, please. Thanks.

 

You're presenting the writer's POV here, which I totally get.

From my POV as a player, however, my canon Warden is alive and well. So, from my perspective, the situation with the Inquisitor and Solas at the end of Trespasser doesn't feel any different to me than having to play more warden / darkspawn stories without my Warden. I was massively disappointed to learn that I'd never get to play my Warden again.
 

Point... conceded.

That war-tabling happily ever after ending was an odd one.
 

I think a lot of that depends on the player and how they played their Inquisitor. In my first playthrough, my Inquisitor didn't have much of a relationship with Solas - he was just sort of along for the ride as far as she was concerned. She didn't talk to him much, and rarely used him.

Plus - having been through all of this before, I pretty much knew (or at least expected) that we'll never play the Inquisitor again.

Different perspectives, I guess.

OT: The forum closing makes me sad.

Hey, I'm with you about the Warden, actually. As I said above, I love continuing stories over multiple games/expansions/whatever. I'd have loved to play as them again. But you're right, I wasn't really writing that from the player's PoV.

 

I understand that some players won't have had much of a relationship with Solas one way or the other in the base game, but I think most are more interested in him being an antagonist because of that shared connection, even if smaller than other players, rather than some new generic cackling villain we have zero connection to. So in my opinion, finishing a story that they've already started in DA:I and Trespasser is different than starting potential new stories with the Warden even though I like the Warden more than Quizzy, which is why I feel so strongly about this.

 

But yeah, different perspectives.

 

Not really, since we'll just find new areas to congregate.  And ""draining the pool" will only be further evidence that we are the injured party and Bioware has totally lost their connection with their base.

 

Face it, we're not mosquitoes, much as you'd like to dismiss us as bugs.  We're customers, with a list of grievances.  Kicking us to the curb will only add to that.  We will go elsewhere, spreading how ill-treated we were in addition to older issues.  This attempt to stifle their bad PR is only going to lead to worse PR

I'm honestly not sure Bioware knows how to do it any other way, judging from their history 

[Silcron]

So I did the "google for MEA info" to see where it ranks, this is an important test for some reason?! And this forum wasn't on the first page. What IS on the first page though is Bioware/EA defending No Man's Sky first day patch...

 

 

 

Oh no. Please don't let this be a sign of ME:A being filled with grinding resource gathering an crafting, and lifeless zone with basic quest. Not another DA:I. I know there's no real correlation but I'm just sick of it and I'm interested in another ME game, even if I buy it on a discount.

[Spirit Vanguard]

Since we're doing analogies.

<-- 300 hours remain.

 

I'm dangerously close to not caring anymore because of That Which Cannot Be Discussed frustrations. Especially after spending time on these new sites that have more post freedom. If they're trying to get people to rage-quit this place, I think it's working.

 

[Sifr]

I'm dangerously close to not caring anymore because of That Which Cannot Be Discussed frustrations. Especially after spending time on these new sites that have more post freedom. If they're trying to get people to rage-quit this place, I think it's working.

 

 

Godzilla is a great analogy for the Bioware forums.

 

A massive, rampaging, highly destructive monster that's nonetheless beloved by many people.

 

Yet the people who created it want to nuke it into oblivion.

[Pearl (rip bioware)]

Come closing day they're gonna point to all this in an attempt to paint this place as a toxic cesspool, when really it was of their own making.

[AngryFrozenWater]

Come closing day they're gonna point to all this in an attempt to paint this place as a toxic cesspool, when really it was of their own making.

Of course they will. It's part of the plan. Many of us have criticized them, so they first send their dogs after these fans and now they throw the fans away. All of them. Even the fans who didn't criticize them. Closing the forums and purging them from history is much easier than actually do something constructive about it.

[Spirit Vanguard]

Godzilla is a great analogy for the Bioware forums.

 

A massive, rampaging, highly destructive monster that's nonetheless beloved by many people.

 

Yet the people who created it want to nuke it into oblivion.

 

Er, is this good or bad for us on BSN?

 

And you forgot to mention that such a majestic beast saves the day from fouler beasts. What hero doesn't come without some collateral damage? 

[Pearl (rip bioware)]

Of course they will. It's part of the plan. Many of us have criticized them, so they first send their dogs after these fans and now they throw the fans away. All of them. Even the fans who didn't criticize them. Closing the forums and purging them from history is much easier than actually do something constructive about it.

I'm not even sure how I can word things about the custodial staff without being sanitized.

[Dean_the_Young]

Not really, since we'll just find new areas to congregate.  And ""draining the pool" will only be further evidence that we are the injured party and Bioware has totally lost their connection with their base.

 

Face it, we're not mosquitoes, much as you'd like to dismiss us as bugs.  We're customers, with a list of grievances.  Kicking us to the curb will only add to that.  We will go elsewhere, spreading how ill-treated we were in addition to older issues.  This attempt to stifle their bad PR is only going to lead to worse PR

 

Nah, you're pretty much a mosquito. Or Don Quixote, tilting at windmills and calling them dragons.

 

'Injured party'? The only injury you suffered was not liking a poor ending of a mediocre fiction series. You've lost magnitudes more time bitching about ME3's ending than you ever spenty playing through it, and that's no one's fault but your own. You've spent years making contradictory assertions of what Bioware must do, and then pointing at whatever they did as 'mistreatment' as if anything but your ego was bruised. You spent years being bitter, letting it spill into the Andromeda forums where people actually interested in the next game tried to look forward to it, and complained about anything (and nothing) so long as it gave you an excuse, all while whaffling about whether you'd actually ever even play the game or not. Probably just so you could get into the 'bought game only' parts of the forum, rather than relegated to the irrelevance of general topic.

 

Your 'bad PR' is good PR for them, because you're practically a charicature that validates letting this place die.

 

Few, if any, people are going to go 'wow, this new guy Iakus has an entirely rational, well-reasoned opinion to still be criticizing ME3 years after it happened.' You're either going to end up in a cauldron of like-minded people equally fixated on imagined slights as you, or a bunch of people far less 'hard core' than you who go 'Dude, it's been three four years, and it wasn't that big a deal back then. Get over it.'

 

At which point, going by past trends, you'll either continue to stick around and largely be ignored by all but a few people who like poking at your frequently over-the-top claims and diatrabues, or you'll go off to a like-minded cauldron of resentment and stew before going back to bother people who'd generally prefer to talk about things they enjoy, rather than fixate for another half-decade.