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#6476
Pasquale1234

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Everything needs to be good.
 
If the gameplay of a game isn't that fun it's really difficult to get invested on it.


Sure, but I don't equate gameplay with combat. To me, gameplay includes pretty much everything my character can do and express - dialogue, P/R / reputation / whatever mechanics, what my character has the agency to do at any given time, etc.
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#6477
Puddi III

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Wait a minute. Even if we say that the message of Dean's post was "Iakus is crazy" -- a correct interpretation for some values of "crazy" -- there's a huge difference between posting "Iakus is crazy" and "Iakus is crazy for these reasons."

 

The difference between a snide one-liner and a more thorough character attack for the purpose of forum civility is outweighed by the manner in which they are the same. They are both your Zika virus with a fairly good chance of contagion.

 

Whether some people deserve the Zika virus or not is another question.


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#6478
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Meanwhile Chris Priestly is busy trashing disappointed Bioware fans on Bioware's official Facebook page. Is that what you really wanted, devs? BSN toxicity is nothing compared to a toxicity of Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr, Reddit.


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#6479
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The difference between a snide one-liner and a more thorough character attack for the purpose of forum civility is outweighed by the manner in which they are the same. They are both your Zika virus with a fairly good chance of contagion.

Whether some people deserve the Zika virus or not is another question.

Well, sure. If he wants to criticize Dean for being uncivil or mean or unproductive or something, that's legit. As usual, I'm just critiquing the formal argument, which wasn't legit.

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mrs_anomaly

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Meanwhile Chris Priestly is busy trashing disappointed Bioware fans on Bioware's official Facebook page. Is that what you really wanted, Bioware?

I don't understand why he hasn't been blocked from posting on there given he is no longer an employee and is engaging in obviously uncivil behavior toward fans. 

 

Also closing this forum is sucky. *holds lighter up and waves it around* 


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#6481
Archdemon_Urthemiel

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I've been lurking for months now, so could somebody please explain what just happened? 



#6482
Star fury

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I don't understand why he hasn't been blocked from posting on there given he is no longer an employee and is engaging in obviously uncivil behavior toward fans. 

 

Also closing this forum is sucky. *holds lighter up and waves it around* 

I dunno, he trashed fans here as a community manager(ironic I know) and he still treats them with disdain on facebook. I'm puzzled too since most big gaming companies maintain huge official forums like Blizzard, Bethesda, Ubisoft etc.


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Khayness

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I've been lurking for months now, so could somebody please explain what just happened? 

 

Just the usual corporate things.

 

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#6484
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11 days to the lock.

So little time...


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#6485
Archdemon_Urthemiel

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Just the usual corporate things.

 

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So EA is starting to rot Bioware from the inside. Shame


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just made new theme today on uBSN. wanted to share it. https://gyazo.com/a9...994440301929dd9

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I don't think there's any sort of snobbery in regards to not liking romance content in general. It's just that BioWare's romances are so poorly written, fail to tie in to the main plot at all, and have so little actual content that it's a wonder why so many people are so heavily invested in them, especially in comparison to the rest of the game/s and everything else they have to offer.

 

BioWare's romance content isn't amazing even when comparing it to other love stories in videogames.

 

The kind of snobbery I see more often is the whole "romance is mature but sex scenes are immature" mindset. Except for when BioWare does them of course. I'm still waiting for the reasoning as to why Cassandra's romance arc is so mature and tasteful but Yennefer's is somehow tacky and childish, for example.


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Wait a minute. Even if we say that the message of Dean's post was "Iakus is crazy" -- a correct interpretation for some values of "crazy" -- there's a huge difference between posting "Iakus is crazy" and "Iakus is crazy for these reasons."


For the record I have never even speculated on, let alone written about, sweat from any character of any species.
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Well, sure. If he wants to criticize Dean for being uncivil or mean or unproductive or something, that's legit. As usual, I'm just critiquing the formal argument, which wasn't legit.


Dean's not worth the effort. I've taken much worse in the past. Heck I've taken worse from her
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I don't think there's any sort of snobbery in regards to not liking romance content in general. It's just that BioWare's romances are so poorly written, fail to tie in to the main plot at all, and have so little actual content that it's a wonder why so many people are so heavily invested in them, especially in comparison to the rest of the game/s and everything else they have to offer.
 
BioWare's romance content isn't amazing even when comparing it to other love stories in videogames.
 
The kind of snobbery I see more often is the whole "romance is mature but sex scenes are immature" mindset. Except for when BioWare does them of course. I'm still waiting for the reasoning as to why Cassandra's romance arc is so mature and tasteful but Yennefer's is somehow tacky and childish, for example.


One of my fave romances in the DA series, if not my fave overall is Aveline from DA2. It simply does not get much more realistic than this. It broke my heart, had to take a day off to catch my breath, and have only been able to play it once. No sex or cuddling required.

Will take Bioware's 'poor writing' over most any time. And what's a Yennefer? ;)
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Wait a minute. Even if we say that the message of Dean's post was "Iakus is crazy" -- a correct interpretation for some values of "crazy" -- there's a huge difference between posting "Iakus is crazy" and "Iakus is crazy for these reasons."

 

Ah, I see you have picked up one of my syntax mistakes again, well done. I hereby apologize to the entire forum.

 

Now, let me rephrase my original post then: "Stop wasting thread space on personal attacks."

 

That better?


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#6492
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Dean's not worth the effort. I've taken much worse in the past. Heck I've taken worse from her

 

Actually the first draft I made to that post was entirely different, it was a lot more smug but I changed it so now the post doesn't make sense

 

But a mistake is a mistake and I own it :)


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#6493
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"The cake is a lie."

 

and now

 

Bioware's concern for its fans is a lie.

 

phfft


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Meanwhile Chris Priestly is busy trashing disappointed Bioware fans on Bioware's official Facebook page.

 

Link plz, I could use the laughs.


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Link plz, I could use the laughs.

Your wish is my command.

 

https://www.facebook...ing={"tn":"R9"}


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That's it? That's like Neutral Chris, not Evil.



#6497
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That's old and I'd hardly call it bashing. More like being obnoxious as usual.



#6498
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Your wish is my command.

 

https://www.facebook...ing={"tn":"R9"}

I find it hilarious that the official response to people complaining about the loss of the guides, bug fixes and all the content here is "technical support can still be found at help.ea.com and answers.ea.com" :lol:.


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For the record I have never even speculated on, let alone written about, sweat from any character of any species.

 

Publicly ;)



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One of the most stupid decisions I ever saw by a gaming company. Blizzard, Bethesda, CD Project Red, Ubisoft and many other maintain huge forums. There are clearly two reasons Bioware are closing their forums.

 

1. It's a business decision, forums don't generate money, they require money for a considerable web traffic, for maintaining and moderating them.

 

2. It removes a biggest channel of criticism, a deed worthy of the Chinese censors.

 

BSN was a valuable channel of feedback from fans to developers, I know there was sometimes unfair criticism but fans gave a lot of constructive criticism too. I got a  link to a fan-made fix for a DA:O bug which was never fixed by devs.

 

BSN was a place for Bioware fans to discuss Bioware games and everything else and you could meet a ton of interesting people and have surprisingly deep discussions. Waiting an upcoming release with an intensifying hype and then after the release interacting with thousands of other excited fans was a great feeling. Even loving to hate DA2 and ME3 endings was fun! Destroying a community of your most dedicated hardcore fans is a terrible decision, Bioware.

 

Snowball's chance in hell I'll use my real name on Facebook discussing a game where my colleagues and tons of facebook lunatics can see it. Are you having a laugh? 140 characters limit on Twitter for talking about Baldur's Gate or Dragon Age or Mass Effect? Give me a break. Registering on reddit with it's cult of Trump supporters or going to interact with Tumblrinas? No thanks. 

 

Last but not least ME3MP forum was amazing too. Huge community of reluctant at first but then die-hard fans, constant interaction with MP developers, making new friends. Pity you decided to kill it.

 

You exist because we allow it and you will end because we demand it. © Sovereign EA


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