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[Filament]

Anyone else think it's a little bizarre that we will make our final stand here in the BSN Help Subforum? It's somehow not what I could ever have imagined. It's probably the last section I would've guessed, truly. I suppose it was chosen for us, ultimately.

I don't know if I would call it much of a stand. There's no way to oppose the decision except to type words that they don't read. All that is left is to vent, say goodbyes and make contingency plans.

But anyone who likes stands should check out the anime, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure.

[General TSAR]

Good bye Mods, I hope you guys find a better occupation.

[Element Zero]

I don't know if I would call it much of a stand. There's no way to oppose the decision except to type words that they don't read. All that is left is to vent, say goodbyes and make contingency plans.But anyone who likes stands should check out the anime, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure.

I'm not looking to make a defensive stand. I'm just looking to hang on until the end with any others looking to do the same. I've put a lot of years into this place (more than my present account indicates), and I'd like to be here when the lights go out, if possible. I'm sure it will be supremely anticlimactic, but it just seems fitting.

Someone posted a video up-thread of a SW Galaxies player sitting and watching fireworks as their server permanently shutdown. That's sort of the sentiment here, with a much crappier view.

[Furisco]

I could say a lot of things... But the only thing i will say is goodbye.

 

Goodbye to the many people that won't go to the lifeboats, goodbye to all of the story that was built here through the years and goodbye to this beautiful forum.

 

For the person responsable for the forum closure and for the people who support this... I don't have anything against you, but you probably don't have any idea of how much this forum means to a lot of people or do you have? You don't care anyways and i don't care about you. 

 

For the developers who don't agree with this decision and the people on this forum that did everything to keep this community alive, thank you from the bottom of my heart. I'm really grateful to all of you.

 

Looks like i said a lot things... heh.

 

This is a very sad and bitterness goodbye.

 

Thank you all again.

[Filament]

I'm not looking to make a defensive stand. I'm just looking to hang on until the end with any others looking to do the same. I've put a lot of years into this place (more than my present account indicates), and I'd like to be here when the lights go out, if possible. I'm sure it will be supremely anticlimactic, but it just seems fitting.

Someone posted a video up-thread of a SW Galaxies player sitting and watching fireworks as their server permanently shutdown. That's sort of the sentiment here, with a much crappier view.

Fireworks, huh?

[ladyofpayne]

As we told in Russia: "Cut your last cucumber and drink!" Режь последний огурец и наливай! See all of you guys in another place, that was wonderful to talk to! 

 

Let's BSN be remebered wonderful as it was:

[Steelcan]

Hell Imma miss the crazies

[Brockololly]

Good to see you post, man.

 

Agreed.

 

Can I use this opportunity to mention that I enjoyed your posts throughout the years? You are one of my favorite posters here. Respect.

 

Although I never understood your fascination for Morrigan.

Heh, your posts were always solid too. And I think you have one of the best usernames ever

 

And Morrigan is awesome, that's all that needs to be said there

[LliiraAnna]

As we told in Russia: "Cut your last cucumber and drink!" Режь последний огурец и наливай! See all of you guys in another place, that was wonderful to talk to!

Let's BSN be remebered wonderful as it was:

https://youtu.be/o9C9OKMyZng
https://youtu.be/dH9F76PtigY

До свидания и удачи! Благо есть ещё другие форумы.

It's a goodbye to the bsn, but not a goodbye to the community

[Vigilant111]

Unfortunately, I can understand where they're coming from by pulling the plug. So no, I guess it wasn't.

 

I am a bit lost, what or who are you defending here? They are taking away a place of which you freely and frequently participated in for years

[Roamingmachine]

It's the final countdown bois and grills! Nothing you do matters anymore!

 

[AlanC9]

I am a bit lost, what or who are you defending here? They are taking away a place of which you freely and frequently participated in for years

 

 

Understanding why someone's doing something, thinking that they made the right decision, and being personally happy with the consequences of that decision are all different things.

[AngryFrozenWater]

As we told in Russia: "Cut your last cucumber and drink!" Режь последний огурец и наливай! See all of you guys in another place, that was wonderful to talk to! 

 

Let's BSN be remebered wonderful as it was:

I've saved this image to my hard disk. Wow. Fantastic.

 

Those were fun times. Posting without a sigpic was like drinking alcohol-free beer. Both don't make much sense.

 

Thanks for that.

[AngryFrozenWater]

Did I miss something? Where's Fexelea to tell us that her site has successfully imported the ME1 forums?

[Vigilant111]

Not exactly a farewell but feel like making an obligatory post

 

I came to the party late, started participating in the forums in the aftermath of ME3, then I went on playing ME1 and ME2, so the forums has always been part of my Mass Effect journey I am thankful for the fact that I was able to find so many like-minded people here who also shared a keen and common interest in BW games, thanks for all those heartaches and laughs, ups and downs, bad times and good times throughout the years.

 

You, the people of BW forums and the former BSN forums, made these forums great, made BW great and most of all, made my journey through video-gaming unforgettable! I would never trade you guys for anything: TheAngryOne, Taboo_XX, 3DandBeyond and many others (Kaidanites FTW!), wherever you are, keep on writing and posting, keep your tongues sharp; iakus: you are one of truiest champions of the anti-ender cause, for that, I salute you; ieldra: You are crazy but you are also a worthy opponent, will probably see you somewhere and last but not least: AFW, mate I will see you in one of the life-boats

 

It was a pleasure meeting many of you, truly and when this place goes dark, I will think of all the good times I spent here, cheers!!!

 

EDIT: Added more honorable mentions

[Roamingmachine]

As we told in Russia: "Cut your last cucumber and drink!" Режь последний огурец и наливай! See all of you guys in another place, that was wonderful to talk to! 

 

Let's BSN be remebered wonderful as it was:

 

Doesn't contain Morinth support banner. TRIGGERED!

[Vigilant111]

Did I miss something? Where's Fexelea to tell us that her site has successfully imported the ME1 forums?

 

Oh hush child, probably busy importing duh

[Vigilant111]

Understanding why someone's doing something, thinking that they made the right decision, and being personally happy with the consequences of that decision are all different things.

 

I don't really understand what you meant by this, could you re-iterate? What did you mean by "all different things"?

 

So unhappiness arising from understanding why someone is doing something is somehow, irrational?

[Fredward]

I still kinda hope whoever made this decision stubs their toe tbh.

[AngryFrozenWater]

Not exactly a farewell but feel like making an obligatory post

 

I came to the party late, started participated in the forums in the aftermath of ME3, then I went on playing ME1 and ME2, so the forums has always been part of my Mass Effect journey I am thankful for the fact that I was able to find so many like-minded people here who also shared a keen and common interest in BW games, thanks for all those heartaches and laughs, ups and downs, bad times and good times throughout the years.

 

You, the people of BW forums and the former BSN forums, made these forums great, made BW great and most of all, made my journey through video-gaming unforgettable! I would never trade you guys for anything: TheAngryOne, Taboo_XX and many others, wherever you are, keep on writing and posting, keep your tongues sharp; iakus: you are one of truiest champions of the anti-ender cause, for that, I salute you; ieldra: You are crazy but you are also a worthy opponent, will probably see you somewhere and last but not least: AFW, mate I will see you in one of the life-boats

 

It was a pleasure meeting many of you, truly and when this place goes dark, I will think of all the good times I spent here, cheers!!!

Hey, brother in crime... You're not going anywhere. Hurry up and register!

 

There's a very important task ahead of us. We need to document the geth history (which is poorly done right now), before people start confusing the geth with the khet.

 

We did have some good times, didn't we?

 

Thanks for that!

 

Edit: Oh! TheAngryOne! And Baronesa! Today I said farewell to The Uncanny. Those ladies kicked some serious ...

 

Sigh.

[LliiraAnna]

I don't really understand what you meant by this, could you re-iterate? What did you mean by "all different things"?

 

So unhappiness arising from understanding why someone is doing something is somehow, irrational?

I think that this refers to the fact that you can acknowledge that BioWare did what they think is best for them and are content with the decision, while not being happy about that decision yourself.

 

Personally, I can relate to the sentiment... that's why I said that I hope BW knows what they're doing and what the consequences will be. 

[BansheeOwnage]

This is true and actually, the response of the community in a 'down period' between games is pretty much amazing:

• 8 forums were created, extended or spruced up, most successfully.
• Hundreds of people joined forums (some several times over), even BioWare devs have been seen lurking.
• Many thousands of posts have been scraped and thousands of posts have been posted anew.
• The community were invited to head off to Twitter and Reddit, but in the main they've stood up for the long-form forum concept.
• The community is as united and 'together' as I've seen it in ages.

Four weeks ago, none of this was expected or announced.

 

Few of us welcomed the news, but the effort to keep that which is good, has been pretty remarkable.

*Clears throat*

 

Always good to have an extinction-level event every so often! Gives people perspective. Reveals what's really important. I'm also very impressed with the community's tenacity, especially given the low number of active users during this summer compared to normal.

 

"You know, one good thing about the Blight is how it brings people together."

 

But... it's still an extinction-level event

 

 

I don't know about you, but they did eat MY cupcakes! (the ones some of us sent before DA:I came out in thanks for using the female inquisitor in some of the marketing)

Really? I was on break from the forums before DA:I, I never heard about that.

 

Well, since they're so keen on us using twitter... You did a lot better than me (partly because it was the DA team if I had to guess) - I tweeted some of the higher-ups on ME:A and asked whether the female protagonist would be shown equally in promotional material. Ignored. Clearly, I was being toxic or something. Asking questions like that, to a progressive developer? Preposterous. I wasn't actively praising them, so obviously I deserved to be ignored (not to mention I wasn't actively bashing them, either, just asking a neutral question).

 

I find it hilarious there were people at Bioware who strongly disliked the criticism to the ME3 endings when one guy alone detected no short than TWENTY problematic things in the game. All of them well-explained and presented with rational arguments.

 

Did Bioware even bother to watch feedback such as this to learn from it? 

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=gxIfQ8ZFd8s

Anyone remember the original IT video? The one that Avocados (I know that wasn't it ) guy made? *sigh* The fans probably ended up making a better ending than Bioware ever did.

 

I don't think they're *that* thin-skinned. I think they're just tired of dealing with the constant drama and the reputation that comes along with it, and it's reached a point where the costs outweigh the benefits.

Tell that to every other game forum. And I don't believe for a second that the costs outweigh the benefits of this place. Definitely not in the long-term.

 

I was deeply dissatisfied by ME3, but even I couldn't handle the year of bad vibes that followed on these forums. I can't imagine how badly I'd have felt had I been part of the team that built the game. My whole work trashed because of a 10-min ending? (We all know that's what happened. Other issues would be been received and discussed more calmly.) Ugh. Disheartening. I'd have fled this place just as they did.

I understand it (I was part of it too, after all). They were the most important 10 minutes of the trilogy. A trilogy that spanned 100+ hours easily, where you'd grow attached to the characters and the world. For many people, they'd grown attached over years. To have all of that investment, just... well, it was one heck of a gut-punch, that's for sure.

 

I'm not really trying to argue with you about anything, just thinking "outloud".

 

Yup. But in the end, it turned out to be us, the fans, who have helped each other out by extending invitations to alternative forums. So, no help from Bioware, but plenty of solidarity being displayed around. 

 

Tomorrow is the big day. Is everyone ready?

As ready as I'm going to be, I think. Which is to say: Not really, no.

 

I feel a bit like I did when I watched this a year ago.

The gang's all here, and we'll fight together, one last time.

 

It's that last part, of course, that gets me

[Vigilant111]

I think that this refers to the fact that you can acknowledge that BioWare did what they think is best for them and are content with the decision, while not being happy about that decision yourself.

 

Personally, I can relate to the sentiment... that's why I said that I hope BW knows what they're doing and what the consequences will be. 

 

Fair enough, had to reply after sensing a hint of condescension

[N7M]

What Rushes By Us

On the falling elevator trapped as the sixty-one floors blink
Like eyes in sequence, each possible resting place whipping by

Faster and faster, one after the other, Hello
Goodbye, my friends, yesterday we were talking, today we die

In our sleep, with the stars falling, surely it is the stars
In waterfalls of sparks, ribbons of light descending

With tennis racquets, Bibles, cars, violets, young men wearing hats
Ski lifts in winter, The New York Times, the Funnies.

All the intense conversations that will never end,
Your photograph on my wall, mine tucked in your billfold,

Do you know what you look like? Not now you don't,
Maybe one second ago you did, but the bit and pieces of yesterday

Are piling up, pushing (some even going on ahead),
There's Mother, there's Father, there's Edward from the first grade

And Beethoven's Ninth, and the Bach B Minor, each chord
Turns into a glissando, clusters of fireworks flying

With curses, cats wailing, the whine of the big guns
And desperate bombs going off, the little pot bellies

Of starved children, presidents, old beggars, vice-presidents,
Every newspaper headline, every last quarrel

We ever had, each hangover, each miraculous glass
Of the deep bourbon of love, even the pure silence of prayer

Is pouring past us like rain, like a blizzard of hard rice
Sliding by, sliding by, polished smooth as the ground

Each of us thinks he is standing on, certainly I do
Content, watching the world go by but suddenly

The bottom drops out, the stomach crazily catapults
Past the toes, the feet, the head follows, mountains

Exchange places with the back yard, even your face
Revolves in the sky, it's the Big Dipper, upside down

The wind roars in our ears, in the dizzy whirl of the blood
There's no turning back, on parallel tracks shooting

From the cliff of our birth we keep falling,
First you, then me, then me rushing by you.
 
-Patricia Goedicke

[LliiraAnna]

Fair enough, had to reply after sensing a hint of condescension

Sorry if it sounded condescending; I didn't mean it so. It's more like... musing over things, haha. Sorry again!