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#7426
Khayness

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You know what really hurts? The people who take 3-4 month long breaks from these forums dont know what's happening right now.

 

I even wonder why PC Gamer did an article on it, that's how I ended up coming back to snark anyways.

 

The timing and secrecy is likely intended, which speaks volumes about the fans matter mentality. And let's not talk about the social media is the new hotness sugarcoating PR speak.

 

Shameful.


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#7427
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Veeia, Chernaya, Bunny...I hoped they would become active again when there was a new game to talk about, but I'll probably never get to chat with them again.


We can hope people will find their way to the new forums. Anything we can do to increase our visibility will make that more likely.

Finding the June "Andromeda Reveal" to be not all that revealing, and the MEA forums once more descending into trolldom, I had returned to hiatus. I'm glad I checked in on July 30. I'd have been clueless, otherwise. Even in my long absences, I guess I always did drop in and check the state of things, "just in case" something good was afoot. In this case, not so good. :(
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On the issue of mods, they even gave warning points and then banned one of the most harmless users. I think it was DragonRacer, if i'm not mistaken. They complained about it on this very thread, and justifiably so.

 

On the past few weeks, I collected no less than 9 warning points and 2 bans. Without insulting anyone. Without harassing anyone. What was the point? Permaban users who bring life to the BSN? Without whom the forum would be dead? Since a forum's main capital consists of online interaction, more specifically conversations, maintained by one essential raw material, which happens to be...people?

 

How does that make Bioware look like to the people who stalk these forums? I'm talking about journalists, employees from other companies, and other professionals who visit forums to evaluate how their rival companies treat their customers.


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#7429
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You know what really hurts? The people who take 3-4 month long breaks from these forums dont know what's happening right now.

I'm sure they will search it up on google and the new forum is gonna be found


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#7430
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Well, something that people need to get on, if they aren't already, is transferring link targets on the wikis from these boards to Fexelea's board as the duplicate threads become available.


Fextralife and BSN.boards.net, that is. I love what Fexelea is doing. I've signed up and intend to start posting, but the heart of the community has already moved to BSN.boards.net. The community there is thriving, for now. I sort of wish we could have merged those efforts and all gone to fextralife, given Fexelea's ownership of the site and the work she's done to migrate the existing posts, but that ship has sailed.
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If we can leave signs for people to find the new forums, and know that they can claim their accounts via pm we can confirm the identity of people and associate their accounts, allowing you to get in touch again :)

 

(answers.ea.com, log in with bioware credentials, send pm to fexelea)

 

I hope a journalist or two will write an article about the BSN closure and post links to the alternative fan forums the community has created and made available for the fans to migrate.

 

That way, the new forums will gain more visibility in search mechanisms.


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Bioware and everyone here, thank you for the great times. (I know I said goobye before and another time, and another before but none of us really cares).

 

Also Bioware, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry that now eveytime I go back to some of my favourite games, or mi favourite one, KotOR my mind will remind me of this, the time you told me and everyone that liked your products enough to invest their time here to go away. You had an employee whose name I can't be bothered to remember (it's in the OP) say it nicely, like I just did. Then had the mods give us the middle finger as we lingered a bit. Tomorrow you shove the door on our faces.

 

So, yeah. It's going to be hard when I replay these games, when I look at the Revan Lego minifigure I just had shipped to me, when I reread some of your other work like novels or comics to enjoy them fully. Because I'll be reminded of what you did here and I'll get angry.

 

I think, just in the brink of the closure that I have finally figured it out. Why this hurt me so much, not just for the community, the other forum is working well, we can meet in other places, make them even better because we are willing to put the effort into running the place. No, this decision and how you have carried it out hurt me so much because you have tarnished your legacy.

 

I was a kid, I got into the story so much, so immersed than when the twist came, when you had Malak told me I was Revan, that the Empire all of that evil I was fighting was my fault I had to look at myself on the mirror. That day you taught me to see my flaws, to persevere to become a better person. I still have flaws and I'll always do, but ever since that day I've never been afraid to admit to them, to be willing to stop and listen to others. You taught me humility at a time I thought of myself as superior to other kids. So even to this day when I'm down I can look left from my chair and see the box to bring a smile to myself. It's why I spent 9€ on a lego minifigure of Revan and I absolutely love it.

 

That's what made me a Bioware fan, so while I bet you've seen this before, since it's from the same universe I find it appropiate:

Spoiler

 

Goodbye Bioware, you had something beautiful and you broke it, for that, I am sorry.


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#7433
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I'm sure they will search it up on google and the new forum is gonna be found


Hopefully. It's not as easy to make that happen as it might seem. It takes work to build visibility on search engines. We have to put in that work.
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#7434
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The problem is that you know all those sites would write about is how toxic this site was and how it is a good thing that Bioware shut it down.

Are people really going to want to come to linked forums off articles like that.


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Other than leaving signs in signatures and profiles and posts in threads here, people who have reach on other sites like Tumblr, YouTube, Twitter etc can help spread the information. It's not perfect and it won't help boost say bsn.boards (for example) up googlesearch rankings exactly (iirc), but it is a small something that doesn't take much effort to do.


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#7436
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Copied from my own thread, seeing as it has already been deleted. Says a lot, really. Seeing as the forums are being closed tomorrow, and deleted not much later, why mods, are you deleting threads where people simply wish to say good bye? In the grand scheme of things, why does it matter if people stick to one thread or not?!

Anyway, here is my original goodbye message:




I'm hardly a big player here: I don't have many posts and I'm not well known, but I'd like to say my goodbye.

I'm going to miss this forum greatly. I have learned so much about the ME universe, and gained much knowledge and experience. Even though it's just a game, I was quite proud/chuffed to get to 124th in the UK at my best in ME3 multiplayer, and it wouldn't have been possible without you guys.

This great community will cease to be as of tomorrow, so I wish you all the best of luck in the future, and here's to future ME games. BioWare... well, it's been bittersweet. You have the best IP I've ever played, and I can see me playing ME games for decades - a huge thank you for allowing to have such a great universe to discover.

On the flip-side, I and many others are very disappointed and saddened that you've chosen this path. I still don't understand how you believe this is a good move, and I truly hope that one day you'll reconsider and reopen this forum.

I will still be playing ME:A when it drops early next year, but believe me when I say that the experience will not be the same without the freedom to come to this community to chat and discuss the ME: Andromeda Universe and lore.

So, seeing that doors close tomorrow, this will likely be my last post here. Very sad times indeed.

Thanks for the laughs and good times, all. BioWare, well, let's see what the future holds...


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#7438
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The problem is that you know all those sites would write about is how toxic this site was and how it is a good thing that Bioware shut it down.
Are people really going to want to come to linked forums off articles like that.


Maybe if it's not a gaming "journalist" that writes it we will fare better. Sometimes Forbes features decent articles concerning gaming. I'm kind of hoping we might get at least one or two decent articles out of the assorted writers of the world.
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#7440
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Fextralife and BSN.boards.net, that is. I love what Fexelea is doing. I've signed up and intend to start posting, but the heart of the community has already moved to BSN.boards.net. The community there is thriving, for now. I sort of wish we could have merged those efforts and all gone to fextralife, given Fexelea's ownership of the site and the work she's done to migrate the existing posts, but that ship has sailed.


However that's going, those links have to be switched to duplicates of the original targets. BSN.boards.net won't have anything to link to, right?
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biower I guess I'll see you at the cons you plan to travel to in order to replace some of the community / dev interaction

like at the upcoming comiccon in glasgow, scotland

 

o wait


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#7443
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So here we are. I don't agree with the decision to close these forums, and I think that Bioware may come to regret it. Over the last few years, they have been in decline, partly due to the venomous behaviour of some few posters, partly due to lack of engagement by the community team. Changes could have been made in time to save these boards. Some members of the community stepped up to make suggestions, but Bioware seems determined that the "silent majority" and their buying power exists outside of this supposedly insular community.

But it was here all along.

I've seen farewell posts by people like myself, who lurk a lot, and post a little. People who buy Bioware's games, and merchandise, and recommend them to friends. People who have only recently started playing, and people who have played these games since the beginning. Social media will not insulate Bioware from criticism (earned or not), or flaming. It's just going to happen outside of an overall supportive, enthusiastic community.

It's disappointing. I can hope that the developers will start to reengage with the community, but it seems that's past, even though it used to be what other game communities wished they had.

So the Bioware forums will live on, on Fextralife, on bsn.boards.net, and on other fan-run boards and sites. And Bioware has cut off their nose to spite their face.

For my fellow passengers on the life rafts, I leave these, in remembrance of good times past, and good times yet to come, and I hope to see you at our new homes.




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I confess I was never a great fan of Bioware back in what many consider their big glory days of Baldur's Gate II, mainly I confess because I could never get past that first fecking monster. To this day I can't do it.

The first time I really fell in love with Bioware was Knights of the Old Republic. This was the Star Wars universe I had grown up watching and reading and it made me a part of the experience. The worlds were there as I remembered  and imagined them.

I'd drifted away for a while but later as I was walking through, the now closed, high street store of Woolworths I came across a Xbox 360 and Mass Effect bundle. I had cash on the hip and so bought it, on the back of so many great KoToR moments.

From the title screen I knew I had found something special and that continued into the next game I bought from Bioware, Dragon Age Origins.

Those three games, Mass Effect, Dragon Age: Origins, and Knights of the Old Republic, are the ones I will always remember Bioware from. They are the ones that hit every target that I wanted in games. They certainly weren't perfect but I can honestly say I was never disappointed in them (well maybe in having to show Carth how to walk around a table.)

Now however that Bioware has gone. They still make good games but now the flaws jump out at me instead of being something that the parts I love block from thought.

The forum closure is not completely unexpected in this day of quick and inconsequential social media interaction, but it is to me the final sign that the Bioware I knew from those three games doesn't exist anymore.

I really don't know what to think when I look back at how I fell in love with Bioware games.


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However that's going, those links have to be switched to duplicates of the original targets. BSN.boards.net won't have anything to link to, right?


Now that you ask, I'm not so sure. I thought there were builds and resources to link, but I couldn't swear to it. I guess I could just check, but I'm already doing two or three things while posting here. :)

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I shouldn't feel it but I am so sad right now. It is true- you cannot see what really matters to you until you lost it.

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#7447
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We shouldn't give up people power is much stronger we have the ability to show what we are capable of we can do anything if we put our minds to it

 

The avalanche has already started, it is too late for the pebbles to vote.


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#7448
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What's this about people being banned and threads and posts being deleted? I mean, I've yet to see someone to go truly overboard, and the forums are closing anyway... why would you say that you don't want to moderate this forum and then start doing just that when it's already too late and not really needed? *sigh*


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#7449
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Well I guess goodbye everyone, I wish I'd lurked less and posted more but you only realize what you had once it was gone.

This place wasn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination but there were so many good discussions and dare I say it communities on here and it really bloody sucks that you care so little about such a passionate and dedicated portion of your fanbase that you're willing to just throw it all away. 

Up until a few months ago working at BioWare would have been my absolute dream job, now there isn't enough money in the world they could pay me to step foot into their doors.

I really do hope BioWare comes to realize what a terrible decision they've made, and I really hope it bites them in the back.


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no way someone is going to address it, I'm sorry to be the bringer of bad news :(

Nah, can't be helped. Thanks for being so cool tho. :)


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