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[Allan Schumacher]

Reddit is my primary home now.

 

Basically short story for me, being on the forum was causing me stress. Reddit allows me to supplement between "work" and enjoyment naturally.

 

This was largely the case for me as well, although Twitter instead of Reddit.  I was starting to feel some fatigue as well and then ended up acting as an interim community manager for a few months post launch which was a whole other beast.  It was an interesting experience but it's definitely a lot more difficult than I imagined.

 

That said I am sorry for all of those that are hit hard by this news

[slimgrin]

No loss here, I feel. The forum community is atrocious anyways.

 

[Addictress]

You want more moderation, eh, tough guy? I'll give ya stricter moderation.

[N7M]

Open the Off Topic for the last couple weeks.

[Nefla]

Looks like I came back here in time to see the death of the BSN. These forums represent the hardcore fans, the past. Social media like twitter represent the new and casual fans who won't complain or ask for anything, the future. BioWare has already in many ways been moving away from the hardcore player and in the direction of the casual player for years. I've loved these forums for what...6 years? I've enjoyed talking (and sometimes heatedly arguing) with so many like-minded people, speculating on upcoming releases, pooling scoured tidbits of knowledge together, being able to vent my disappointments, squeal about the things I liked, etc...Maybe it's for the best. I've already been on the precipice of leaving BioWare games behind completely after being so disappointed by DA2, ME3, and DA:I but the one thing that keeps me thinking "well maybe the next one will be different" is the BSN, the hope of other fans, the consolation of being able to talk about my fears to them, and my general enjoyment of the people here. Such a huge, active, knowledgeable, passionate group that is unrestricted and able to go back and forth with posts the length and depth of novels is something you can't find anywhere else. I won't join those other random casual and restricted discussions on social media websites I don't use and don't care to. One the forums close, BioWare will pretty much be dead to me. This was the place I got information (and player hype) about their games and since my opinion has become so low over the last few years I won't have any reason to seek out information on if they're making new games, what they're about, when they release and so on. If they end up being good I won't have any way of knowing.

[Hazegurl]

One can't help but feel they were really not looking forward to fan reactions about their upcoming games, so they silenced us in advance.

Bingo.

[Alamact]

Open the Off Topic for the last couple weeks.

Oh boy... just imagine the sheer density of shitposting that would ensue.

[MisterJB]

Open the Off Topic for the last couple weeks.

Honestly, I'd say everything counts as off topic now.
This is what happens when people havê nothing left to lose.

[TobiTobsen]

Oh boy... just imagine the sheer density of shitposting that would ensue.

 

That will happen anyway. With the end of the forum on the horizon moderators and penalties are a non-threath.

[Puzzlewell]

****, I needed a good laugh and seeing "difficult decision" over and over sure gave me it. Mmmm, PR speak to try and soothe the abandoned kids even though we've known for ages that mom and dad don't love us anymore.

(I'm on mobile so someone image that SR-2 Daddy Issues mockup of the Normandy from ME2 is here)

For what it's worth, I've met most of the deeply important people in my life here since I joined back in 09. Not a social media fan at all so it looks like I won't be hearing much about what the company does unless I stumble across it.

[PunchFaceReporter]

Please remember Bioware. Hair.

[AlleluiaElizabeth]

I didn't know there was a reasonable side of tumblr.

 

I've had a tumblr for going on 3 years. I tend to find and follow reasonable people. Really, tumblr isn't bad if you just search for content you like and follow people whose posts you like. There are things like blacklisting and stuff too you can use for w/e topics or people you dislike. And you can also just literally ignore them or argue with them. Like we do here, really. Once you get familiar with the interface, its fine. 

 

I actually like my tumblr very much. Get great fandom stuff there and there is actually a lot of good meta on occasion. I even engage in politics and religious talk and I've received maybe 3 annonymous posts that were rude in my whole time doing so.  And this comes from a white, republican, heterosexual, southern, catholic woman.

 

Really, your tumblr experience is what you make of it.

[Absafraginlootly]

 

I visit BSN almost every day, it's my favourate place to read and chat about bioware games. Tumblr, facebook and reddit aren't acceptable replacements for a public, moderated, forum where you can have long conversations with loads of people with lots of point of views. (I shan't dignify twitter with a response, I mean really)

 

All big game studios have an official forum for their games, I don't understand at all why they'd close this one. 

 

I suppose I'll just have to hope some fans out there have created/will create and moderate a decent fan forum.

[Reznore57]

This was largely the case for me as well, although Twitter instead of Reddit.  I was starting to feel some fatigue as well and then ended up acting as an interim community manager for a few months post launch which was a whole other beast.  It was an interesting experience but it's definitely a lot more difficult than I imagined.

 

That said I am sorry for all of those that are hit hard by this news

 

Thanks for trying back then , Allan.

[Addictress]

Please remember Bioware. Hair.

If this is the one thing they take away

[Dalyaria]

Here's my guesstimate of what happened:


1) Analyst in EA says, "BioWare needs more visibility. Social network is the main venue of marketing, have them concentrate 100% on there. Do they still have the forum? Close it as redundant."

2) Message gets transferred to Bioware

3) BioWare decision makers give the message to community PR manager, say "Put a nice spin on it."

4) PR manager decides to use a common spin, "We're doing this for you."


The top error in this is, that social media isn't really a good marketing venue except towards young and/or inexperienced people, who are easily hyped and deceived. These venues are not good for marketing in-depth games. BioWare will, in turn, alter their games to ones which are shallow, and are estimated to make quick profits. Long-term product support won't be in the cards.

 

What is forgotten here entirely, is BioWare's earlier reputation, and average gamer age: well over 30 years now. The profitable trend is not towards shallower games, but rather towards games that connect well with long-time gamers who already have life-experience. Proof of this lies in the great success of Kickstarted remakes of thoughtful, classic titles, emphasis on crafting, survival and roguelikes with complex, realistic gameplay mechanics, as well as Kickstart's myriad of shallow failures. Early-access has been the cop out strategy in game depth, and it's receiving increasing criticism.

 

As this isn't taken into account, I wouldn't be surprised if in 5 years, BioWare had become a full-time cellphone & Facebook game studio, with less than a third of the staff it has now. It bears no mentioning how badly this will clash with their earlier reputation, and combined with staff platform inexperience plus demotivation - be terrible for their efficiency at turning a profit.

[prosthetic soul]

Reddit is my primary home now.

 

Basically short story for me, being on the forum was causing me stress. Reddit allows me to supplement between "work" and enjoyment naturally.

Stress?  Really? 

[Nimrodell]

I understand this decision... I'd do the exact same thing to be honest... I understand, and I'm saying, typing this even though I'm well-aware it's of no significance. There is one blind plea from me - please guys, don't stop making your games. Just don't, please. I miss BioWare touch, feel, magic this whole time. I miss the magic, the beauty of true RPG that BioWare was doing. You were the first who offered me the full immersion and you delivered... I was able to play as myself even though I'm older heterosexual female and to feel the story, the mechanics, everything. I'm grateful for all things you've created and I just simply wish you well. Please, just continue to exist and make RPG wonders... Otherwise... if only money rules... We're truly in deep-sheit as a species. I understand your decision, especially after DA2 (which was and still is a superb BW RPG - no matter what forums say) - I just wish you all well, and thank you, for everything. To be honest, I would make the same decision. I'm gonna miss you, horribly, but I understand. Dear people from BioWare, thank you for everything.

[Kroitz]

Oh boy... just imagine the sheer density of shitposting that would ensue.

 

It was the best of times, it was the dankest of times.

[slimgrin]

This was largely the case for me as well, although Twitter instead of Reddit.  I was starting to feel some fatigue as well and then ended up acting as an interim community manager for a few months post launch which was a whole other beast.  It was an interesting experience but it's definitely a lot more difficult than I imagined.

 

That said I am sorry for all of those that are hit hard by this news

 

If you thought this place was fatiguing, good luck with social media. 

[darksnow]

This was largely the case for me as well, although Twitter instead of Reddit.  I was starting to feel some fatigue as well and then ended up acting as an interim community manager for a few months post launch which was a whole other beast.  It was an interesting experience but it's definitely a lot more difficult than I imagined.

 

That said I am sorry for all of those that are hit hard by this news

I always appreciated your willingness to talk things out. thank you.

 

There are a few posters I'm really going to miss reading. Sylvius the Mad, Sartoz, Wulfram, Solas, Hrungr, upsettingshorts and many others where I can't recall the name, just the opinions or speculations. I didn't always agree with you but I always enjoyed the posts. If you make a home for yourselves on another forum that allows wall-of-text posts I might have to stalk you there... in a completely harmless way, of course. I'll just read and ponder your words.

[Amburu]

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Really, your tumblr experience is what you make of it.

 

Sometimes unfortunate encounters might happen but for the most part I totally agree

[Catastrophy]

Hey guys, imagine ...

 

...a theater without audience

 

...a football stadium without fans

 

I can't help, but that's what I see right now.

[Enernanut]

This is disappointing, I've hardly ever posted posted on the forums however it's an incredibly useful resource for information that isn't obvious or simple.  I've been playing through the Mass Effect series again and the majority of my searches for info ended up here, it would be a shame if that info simply isn't available the next time I decide to play them.

 

I think it's a mistake to shut the forums down but it would be nice if at least the old stuff is left up as an archive up so the wealth of info these forums contain isn't lost forever.

[vertigomez]

Aight so... where are we supposed to talk, now?

I don't mean to the devs. I mean to each other. You know, fan discourse? Speculation and squealing? Honestly.